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Real estate prices dropping slower in North Idaho

Posted: Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 - 07:51:53 pm PST
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By RICK THOMAS
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Even with more home sales of more than $1 million than ever in Kootenai County, the average and median prices of existing homes is creeping down slowly.

Coeur d'Alene not doing badly in overall sales

COEUR d'ALENE -- Real estate prices in North Idaho appear to be defying gravity, dropping far slower than they rose in recent years.

With more homes for sale, tighter credit and concerns that the region's market may have become overpriced, it's now taking an average of four months to sell a house.

"People are looking for good price deals," said Luke Wild, an agent at Coldwell Banker Schneidmiller Realty, checking out a home for sale near downtown on Friday afternoon for a client in Boise. "They have to be well priced to make sense."

Yet there is competition among buyers, he said. The home he was looking at has a sale pending, but a closing date well in the future. It also includes a clause that would allow his client to up the bid, and offer to close sooner.

A better-qualified buyer might have the edge, Wild said, as lenders look more closely at income-to-debt ratios and demand proof of stated earnings and liabilities.

"They were lending way over people's heads," he said. "Now, they can't pull out any equity if they need it."

The city is still not doing badly in overall sales, however, Wild said.

"Houses are selling, but with 4,000 on the market, buyers are picky."

The Coeur d'Alene Multiple Listing Service reported there were 3,530 residential listings in October, up nearly 20 percent from 3,108 a year ago, but down 5 percent from 3,893 the previous month.

For the six months from May 1 to Oct. 31, the number of single-family homes with less than an acre of property sold in the county was 1,136, off 11 percent from the same time frame last year.

The average sales price was $240,469, down .5 percent from the same time frame last year.

The median price of $203,295 was off 4 percent.

That was in spite of a record number of homes that sold for more than $1 million, said Rick Vernon, executive officer of the Coeur d'Alene Association of Realtors.

"We had more million-dollar properties sell this last quarter than ever before," he said, with 12 residential pieces that sold above that benchmark, the highest for $5.3 million.

Membership in the association grew to more than 1,000 agents during the boom of the past few years. About 30 dropped out this year, and when renewals are due at the beginning of 2008 Vernon expects to lose about another 100.

"To survive you have to sell one a month, unless it happens to be a big one," Vernon said.

He said it's typical that a small number of agents make most of the deals anyway.

"We used to say 20 percent did 80 percent," he said. "It's more even here."

Idaho has some things going for it that other regions don't, Vernon says. One is a lower rate of foreclosures than most states, largely due to more conservative lending practices. Another is strong growth in the commercial sector.

"Real estate depends on commercial growth," Vernon said.

Helping that is Idaho's business-friendly climate, which lures companies such as Cabela's with incentives that will pay off for many years to come, he said.

"I think it's all good," Vernon said. "I'm not getting any negative vibrations from the real estate community."

He points out that there were 200 listings for homes less than $180,000, their threshold for affordability. But he also recognizes that even at $150,000, a 6 percent fixed-rate mortgage is out of the reach of many.

"We have people in our office who can't afford it," he said. "People in the $12 an hour to $13 an hour category can't afford it."

While sales of existing homes have slowed, new home sales are off by even more.

"Our overall market versus last year is down about 15 percent," said Wendell Olson, president of Viking Construction. "It's been soft the past three or four months."

Kootenai County is a little slower than Spokane, Olson said, and he expects another 20 percent decline next year.

"2008 will probably be the worst year before it returns," he said. "It won't go back to 2004, but I don't think anybody wants that."

Viking will build 217 houses this year, off from 252 in 2006, but prices won't likely fall because costs are rising in spite of lower lumber prices, Olson said.

"In the past 10 days or so everybody has been raising their price," he said.

The cost of fuel is causing subcontractors to ad as little as $20 per house, but when it's multiplied over all the contractors involved, it adds $500 to $750 per unit, Olson said.

The silver lining for him is that with fewer homes under construction, there are more framers available and homes are going up faster, in about 90 days compared to 120 days just a year ago. Also, fewer buyers are canceling than were a couple of years ago, though some deals go sour because of changing loan programs.

"The programs are tougher and tougher," Olson said. "A lender at the beginning might approve a loan, then three of four months later, there are tighter restrictions, or the program is gone."

Olson says he's not worried, and that he expects sales to stabilize.

"The market in general is at a crest," he said. "It will start turning around."


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to OldSalt wrote on Dec 20, 2007 8:04 AM:

" Heh - even WITJ a realtor, you're going to have a helluva time selling your house in this market. I'm just waiting (and hoping) for the market to continue to deteriorate, so that I can can grab some more land at bargain prices from desperate sellers. Yeah, that'll be good. "

Bad Hagadroid wrote on Dec 20, 2007 7:52 AM:

" In a red hot market you don't need a realtor. In my neighborhood, people were selling houses with little 'for sale' signs in their front yards. A down market, which we are in, is a different story. You want a third party (the realtor) to make the 35% off asking price offer. Worked for me. "

OldSalt wrote on Dec 19, 2007 2:31 PM:

" GOOD LUCK to all of you experts who think you will sell your property for it's value without a REALTOR. Wake up. It's a Buyer's Market. Most buyers use Realtors, because they want representation for free. The age of the unrepersented seller doing A-OK by simply hanging a sign is gone. When you tell REALTORs that they are criminals and buffoons, good luck getting them to show your home. But, then again, you probably know that allready. "

to native wrote on Dec 14, 2007 12:13 PM:

" Yeah, I'm ashamed of the Californicators as well. You;d think they'd realize that they will NEVER be welcome here and find some place else to live. "

native wrote on Dec 14, 2007 11:39 AM:

" cant believe all the California bashing that goes on around here. Being born and raised in North Idaho it makes me ashamed of these people. This is America and people have a right to live wherever they please. Yes I was a logger for years..grew up in the area when the towns were supported by timber and ore. Really like the change and the growth..build more houses for the future people and to all natives that dont like the growth..Why dont you leave??? "

RE Market wrote on Dec 14, 2007 8:48 AM:

" If the RE market is so good here, why then, are there a number of prominant "Realtors" showing up in the "Notice of Trustee Sales" section of the legals? "

Golden Mean wrote on Dec 11, 2007 12:20 AM:

" Re-sale values have been steady as they declined more than 33% in the last half of the third quarter. Analysts predict that the increase will continue through mid ’08 and interest rates have also shown that they are subject to change without notice. The local market has not been exempt from the rise and fall as made obvious by the other erratic indicators. Both the stochastic and 30 day moving average continues fluctuate steadily and has appeared to level off. "

David Learah wrote on Dec 10, 2007 5:54 PM:

" We're at a permanent plateau. They're not making land anymore. You'd better get in before you get priced out forever. Real estate never goes down in value. Why rent when you can own? Interest rates are at historically low levels. Creative loans are available to Everybody! The market's tanking but it will come up in the long run-there's never been a better time to buy!*****Did I miss any swarmy Real estate cliches? "

LOL wrote on Dec 10, 2007 12:28 PM:

" I was here first!! WAAAAAAAA-- "sniff" "Sniff" Why dont you people just leave!---WAAAAA WAAAAAA Just like School Children! "

Johnny Minor wrote on Dec 10, 2007 12:12 PM:

" This article is pure BS propaganda from the start. The bottom is falling out as we speak. You can expect to loose 30% of all construction related jobs by next summer. Mortgages are at year 2000 level. "

Oh great wrote on Dec 10, 2007 11:22 AM:

" This is my state and I dont like any groth dont the calafona people have enuff? with the traffic and the devlopments and such. They just want to have calaforna all over again there are to many people trying to make a buck without the developments and such they have to sell calaforna shaks and buy mcmansons ! we need a long cold winter so they get cold and go home you know they cant even drive in the snow with big 4x4s "

Native Guy wrote on Dec 10, 2007 9:16 AM:

" To:Get a life;why don't you leave.I was here before you were.Have'nt we had enough growth for awhile?Too much growth,too fast is bad for most people! "

right wrote on Dec 10, 2007 9:15 AM:

" Realtor's are trying Very Hard to convince people that buying now is a good idea and that they are necessary - neither of these are true. The market is FAR from the bottom and the realtors are just trying to save their butts. Anyone that buys now is a fool that deserves the beating they will take in the market. "

Craven Moorehead wrote on Dec 10, 2007 7:44 AM:

" I agree with DC, REALTARDS are a waste of time. Comparing REALTARDS with doctors, dentists and even (good)mechanics is silly, these professions require schooling and experience. Most agents have very little experience and even less education. Just look at how many of them there are in the county. 2 weeks of classes and an exam are all that is required. "

jc wrote on Dec 10, 2007 7:35 AM:

" I don't believe that the real estate idustry is corrupt, or that the majority of agents are "criminals," but I am not sold on the idea of needing a realtor to buy or sell a house. I am sure that there are many excellent realtors out there that provide a good service, but the 3 times that I have used one I have not recieved anything that I could not do myself. In fact, except for the listing in MLS, the service I recieved each time was below the level of effort that I put in for myself in looking for properties and in attracting buyers. If you find the idea of selling a home daunting, by all means hire a professional but if you are a competent do-it-yourself person who likes to do your homework and do something right, there is no reason at all that you shouldn't. If you are hiring, make sure that they are an experienced professional as you can be sure that the 1000 realtors in the area are not all or even mostly of any exceptional quality. Achieving their license does not mean they posses sales skills or work ethic etc... get references! "

X wrote on Dec 9, 2007 7:12 PM:

" If I had a huge number of unsold houses in a crashing market, I'd say EXACTLY what Mr. Olsen said. "

Get A Life wrote on Dec 9, 2007 4:08 PM:

" Get a life DC - you leave nothing but negative comments on every story the paper writes that has to do with growth, real estate, the area, etc...why don't you move? "

Wow wrote on Dec 9, 2007 4:03 PM:

" Interesting DC - you say "The real estate "industry" is corrupt. Realtors are criminal. I encourage all who buy and sell property, to do so without using real eatate sales entities. It's easy, and you save/make TONS of money. Don't perpetuate the criminal scam that traditional real state sales has become." So....you do your own surgery, dental work, auto work, lawyer work etc??? Realtors have to be educated, licensed, background checked. THEY ARE THE EXPERTS not you. I encourage all of the general public to use a REALTOR. Yes there are bad apples in the group so do your homework - but having a REALTOR help us relocate here really helped. We would NEVER go the home selling or buying path without one. "

again wrote on Dec 9, 2007 2:43 PM:

" DON'T WORRY IT'S SLOW NOW, BUT IT WILL PICK UP SPEED "

DC wrote on Dec 9, 2007 8:28 AM:

" The real estate "industry" is corrupt. Realtors are criminal. I encourage all who buy and sell property, to do so without using real eatate sales entities. It's easy, and you save/make TONS of money. Don't perpetuate the criminal scam that traditional real state sales has become. "

Mr T wrote on Dec 9, 2007 7:34 AM:

" Idaho is a business friendly environment? Then where are all of the substantial businesses/employers? If I was the head of a major technology type of corp. I wouldn't choose Idaho. Personal income tax rates are too high and there is not a large enough well educated workforce. Compare No. Idaho to Austin Texas for example. In Austin roughly 60% of the entire population has a college degree - probably from a GOOD 4 year school as well. "

Cheshire Cat wrote on Dec 9, 2007 7:01 AM:

" Lenders approved sellers way over their heads and the realtors were right there with the lenders, showing properties way over their heads to get the big hit commissions!! Everybodies hands are bloody in this meltdown; greedy sellers, realtors, lenders, appraisers, title companies and real estate attorneys. It will be 2010 before it starts to get better and these prices will continue to drop another 12-20% or to be sold or the bank will own another property! For some reason everyone thinks that CDA is exempt from this national meltdown; they're wrong. "

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