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North Idaho stays in the red
By TOM GREENE
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| SHAWN GUST/Press Gary Smith of Coeur d'Alene casts his vote in a ballot booth Tuesday at his precinct polling place, the Trinity Luthern Church on Fifth Street. |
Republicans retain all local seats in Tuesday voting
COEUR d'ALENE -- Barack Obama and Walt Minnick might have been swept into office on a blue tide, but Kootenai County is still as red as ever.
"Naturally I'm disappointed with Bill Sali and John McCain. I don't understand it," said Brad Corkill, chair of the Kootenai County Republicans. "But, locally, we did very well. We kept all of our seats."
Nationally, Obama handily took care of Sen. John McCain, but in Kootenai County he was outvoted 38,387 (61.38 percent) to 22,120 (35.37 percent).
Statewide, Walt Minnick edged U.S. Rep. Bill Sali 175,567 (51 percent) to 171,324 (49 percent) -- at last count. In Kootenai County, Sali reversed the percentages beating Minnick 30,661 (51 percent) to 29,917 (49 percent).
Also, all of North Idaho's incumbent lawmakers were re-elected, which only includes Democrat Reps. George Sayler, Coeur d'Alene, and Mary Lou Shepherd, Wallace. Shepherd ran unopposed.
Before the race, political theorists watched several legislative races in North Idaho closely -- particularly District 1 and District 4 -- to see if the Democrats could pick up what some called vulnerable seats. Those seats stayed Republican and the GOP was able to pick up a District 33 seat in eastern Idaho.
"I wouldn't really say it's surprising. North Idaho voters are very well informed. John Goedde and Marge Chadderdon (both GOP lawmakers in District 4) have got track records. People recognize and appreciate that and will send them back again," Corkill said.
Jim Hansen, executive director for the Democratic Party, predicted a hard race for the Democrats in Idaho this week which, he said, is typical of presidential races in this state. He said Obama's race and the "national mood" was enough to involve and educate voters in local races, which contributed to Minnick's victory over incumbent Sali.
"They did know (Sali's record), so Walt Minnick won," Hansen said.
Hansen said Democrats nearly holding their own in the Legislature and picking up a seat in the U.S. House during a presidential election is a victory.
"It's tough in a presidential year. We've lost seats every presidential year since 1988," Hansen said. "We've increased the seats, on average, in non-presidential years."
He said in Ada County 16,000 more people voted for the president than the county commissioner.
"By the time they voted for the commissioners they had ballot fatigue," Hansen said. "In a presidential race there are huge numbers of voters who only focus on the national election (and vote strictly along party lines)."
Kootenai County broke records for voter turnout this week.
"Compared to the last presidential election four years ago there were about 8,000 more votes counted," said Dan English, Kootenai County clerk.
In Kootenai County, there was an 87 percent turnout of about 72,000 registered voters.
"I'm sure we'll end up with at least 3,000 to 4,000 new registered voters (since Idaho allows election day registration)," English said.
Hansen said the Obama and Minnick races were "huge" and with the statewide races "We came close, but didn't quite pull it off."
Corkill said Kootenai County's population keeps growing, but its political base has stayed the same.
"It's not going to change much. We're still as strong as we've ever been in the Legislature and even more so," Corkill said. "With Gov. (Butch) Otter in office and Republicans in the Legislature we're going to see a lot happen in January."
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To Not so fast wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:31 AM:
" And I heard he was going hunting with Chenny so there is still hope. "
Not so fast wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:03 AM:
" " PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA! SAY IT! "
Actually, you can say it, but it's not true.
He hasn't even been elected president yet.
After Dec 15th, I think, he will be President Elect, but still not President until sworn in, in Jan. "
Actually, you can say it, but it's not true.
He hasn't even been elected president yet.
After Dec 15th, I think, he will be President Elect, but still not President until sworn in, in Jan. "
Yes wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:57 AM:
" yes, we should vote just like the cool kids and maybe they will let us sit at the cool kids table.
That would be cool "
That would be cool "
Hey Barrack Osama wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:31 AM:
" I'll call you President just as soon as we can see your LEGAL birth certificate. Until then, It's Chimpy BigEars, the Blue Lipped Liar. "
To Kiss Me wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:25 AM:
" It hurst when you get caught telling lies doesn't.
I REALY REALY want to thank you though for pointing out that the only reason the Un-American Osama Obama got elected was because he was black and for no other reason since the ones voting for him knew nothing about politics or who was doing what JUST LIKE YOU. "
I REALY REALY want to thank you though for pointing out that the only reason the Un-American Osama Obama got elected was because he was black and for no other reason since the ones voting for him knew nothing about politics or who was doing what JUST LIKE YOU. "
Kiss Me wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:13 AM:
" to 10:07 am post:
Stay in the old world mentality and rot like the rest of the voters here in Idaho whom voted for a republican. I'm moving ahead into the brave new world. "
Stay in the old world mentality and rot like the rest of the voters here in Idaho whom voted for a republican. I'm moving ahead into the brave new world. "
To Jail Them wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:07 AM:
" Your post is the dumbest one I have read here, First off it was you dumbocrats that wanted the bailout the most, Remember Pelosi almost had a brain sesure when the republicans voted it down the first time.
It is Osama Obama wanting to eliminate Bushes tax cuts....
You must live on another planet and if anyone will be in jail it will end up being the Un-American Osama Obama before his term is done. "
It is Osama Obama wanting to eliminate Bushes tax cuts....
You must live on another planet and if anyone will be in jail it will end up being the Un-American Osama Obama before his term is done. "
Jail Them wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:00 AM:
" Higher Taxes are coming our way thanks to Bush and Company for the Wall Street bailout. Republicans who needs them? NO ONE! GOP can die a slow death. "
Thats why wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:57 AM:
" That is why when you get in an accident, throw all your ID away and speak Spanish.
They have to treat you for free.
I have had two surgery's absolutely free.
Buying insurance is for suckers! "
They have to treat you for free.
I have had two surgery's absolutely free.
Buying insurance is for suckers! "
Niles wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:19 AM:
" TO: Who will Obama tax:
By the same token an illegal alien could show up in the ER with a potentially lethal brain bleed. That same neurosurgeon will get called at midnight and emergency surgery will save this persons life. Neither the surgeon or the hospital will collect one penny from the illegal alien. Federal law mandates that necessary care be provided by that hospital to anyone regardless of the ability to pay. As you note when that means a family with only marginal assets they will be forced into bankruptcy whereas an indigent will be given the care for free. The situation exists as a consequence of an existing socialistic policy and does not point to the need for more such policy. In fact it emphasizes the fallacy and unfairness often seen in such systems.
All of us who own homes and make our mortgage payments are about to be part of the same unfairness. Democrats sought to make homeownership accessible to lower income borrowers so they set-up the system to accommodate that. A nice idea similar to taking care of everyone who needs emergent healthcare. Now trillions of dollars in bad home loans has resulted and the gov't has had to step in to keep the massive fiasco from dumping the worlds economy. At the end of this day people who bought homes they could not afford will get their loans reworked and some want to even reduce the principle of their debt. Those people will get their homes and reduced debts for acting recklessly. But our home loans and principle balances will remain unchanged. They get their homes and less debt while we get no break on our homes loan debt structure plus more debt for these hapless fools. Unfair, too bad.
This is the gov't deciding that the entire population will live at an acceptable minimal level. That everyone should have a certain level of healthcare and housing, and food, etc. But since the gov't does not generate any income it takes the money to support that philosophy away for people who do earn it, in taxes. And since this is a democracy the people who demand a higher minimal level of gov't support will vote for candidates who promise that. And since this is a free country the people who will now pay higher taxes can choose to make less or charge more or leave altogether or accept the idea that they get work hard to support others.
We shall see what happens now. "
By the same token an illegal alien could show up in the ER with a potentially lethal brain bleed. That same neurosurgeon will get called at midnight and emergency surgery will save this persons life. Neither the surgeon or the hospital will collect one penny from the illegal alien. Federal law mandates that necessary care be provided by that hospital to anyone regardless of the ability to pay. As you note when that means a family with only marginal assets they will be forced into bankruptcy whereas an indigent will be given the care for free. The situation exists as a consequence of an existing socialistic policy and does not point to the need for more such policy. In fact it emphasizes the fallacy and unfairness often seen in such systems.
All of us who own homes and make our mortgage payments are about to be part of the same unfairness. Democrats sought to make homeownership accessible to lower income borrowers so they set-up the system to accommodate that. A nice idea similar to taking care of everyone who needs emergent healthcare. Now trillions of dollars in bad home loans has resulted and the gov't has had to step in to keep the massive fiasco from dumping the worlds economy. At the end of this day people who bought homes they could not afford will get their loans reworked and some want to even reduce the principle of their debt. Those people will get their homes and reduced debts for acting recklessly. But our home loans and principle balances will remain unchanged. They get their homes and less debt while we get no break on our homes loan debt structure plus more debt for these hapless fools. Unfair, too bad.
This is the gov't deciding that the entire population will live at an acceptable minimal level. That everyone should have a certain level of healthcare and housing, and food, etc. But since the gov't does not generate any income it takes the money to support that philosophy away for people who do earn it, in taxes. And since this is a democracy the people who demand a higher minimal level of gov't support will vote for candidates who promise that. And since this is a free country the people who will now pay higher taxes can choose to make less or charge more or leave altogether or accept the idea that they get work hard to support others.
We shall see what happens now. "
Who Will Obama Tax wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:48 AM:
" " Have you ever gotten a job other than a hand one by a poor person? Oh I see. You want your brain surgeon to make as much as the street sweeper. Good luck with that. "
No - I don't care if the brain surgeon thinks he/she has to make $500,000.00 per year. Fine. But then they can carry a heavier tax burden, still live like kings and some of Dr. 500K's earnings can help improve roads, make government payroll, provide assistance to the poor, fund market and banking oversight...
A healthy family of 3 is going to have a health insurance premium of between $7,000 and $10,000 per year. Those premiums are in part related to the good Dr.'s need to make $500,000.00 per year, right? How's the street sweeper's family going to afford that? They're not. When one of them needs that brain surgeon (or do the poor just die?) a family that makes $30,000.00 a year is going to get hit with a $50,000.00 bill for 3 days at KMC. Pretty soon a collector's going to be wrecking their credit - no new car, no re-fi, 30% interest on their credit cards and presto bingo - banko. When they go bankrupt over those medical bills, (a massive national problem) they don't just discharge Dr. 500K, they discharge all the banks, all the lenders, all the vendors, all the other professionals and we all have to pick up the slack by charging more and therefore paying more for our everyday goods and services. Like last month, maybe by massive government programs that will cost us all hugely in the end. So, no affordable health care impacts us all in every segment of the economy every single day. Does Dr. 500K really need a 30,000 square foot home, three vacation condos, his and her BMW's, and that 85' boat with gps navigation, loran and radar on a lake where you can never be more than a half a mile from shore? Or, like on wall street - is the insistance on a massive disparity in wealth part of this nation's greatness or part of its problems? That's not a "law" thing or a "socialism" thing. It's a business ethics thing and they don't teach enough of that in business or professional schools. I'm a professional. I have a doctorate. I charge a bunch an hour and these issues are also kicking around in my head. One thing's for sure - Obama can't fix "us." Another thing's for sure - if it remains business as usual on wall street and on main street nothing is going to change. Our votes are not going to pull us out of this mess. We have to change our attitudes. This isn't just about Drs. The core issue applies to all of us. Just thoughts. "
No - I don't care if the brain surgeon thinks he/she has to make $500,000.00 per year. Fine. But then they can carry a heavier tax burden, still live like kings and some of Dr. 500K's earnings can help improve roads, make government payroll, provide assistance to the poor, fund market and banking oversight...
A healthy family of 3 is going to have a health insurance premium of between $7,000 and $10,000 per year. Those premiums are in part related to the good Dr.'s need to make $500,000.00 per year, right? How's the street sweeper's family going to afford that? They're not. When one of them needs that brain surgeon (or do the poor just die?) a family that makes $30,000.00 a year is going to get hit with a $50,000.00 bill for 3 days at KMC. Pretty soon a collector's going to be wrecking their credit - no new car, no re-fi, 30% interest on their credit cards and presto bingo - banko. When they go bankrupt over those medical bills, (a massive national problem) they don't just discharge Dr. 500K, they discharge all the banks, all the lenders, all the vendors, all the other professionals and we all have to pick up the slack by charging more and therefore paying more for our everyday goods and services. Like last month, maybe by massive government programs that will cost us all hugely in the end. So, no affordable health care impacts us all in every segment of the economy every single day. Does Dr. 500K really need a 30,000 square foot home, three vacation condos, his and her BMW's, and that 85' boat with gps navigation, loran and radar on a lake where you can never be more than a half a mile from shore? Or, like on wall street - is the insistance on a massive disparity in wealth part of this nation's greatness or part of its problems? That's not a "law" thing or a "socialism" thing. It's a business ethics thing and they don't teach enough of that in business or professional schools. I'm a professional. I have a doctorate. I charge a bunch an hour and these issues are also kicking around in my head. One thing's for sure - Obama can't fix "us." Another thing's for sure - if it remains business as usual on wall street and on main street nothing is going to change. Our votes are not going to pull us out of this mess. We have to change our attitudes. This isn't just about Drs. The core issue applies to all of us. Just thoughts. "
To Libs out wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:18 PM:
" Guess what I'm from Idaho and work for my own money, and voted against every conservative running and I'm not going anywhere because I pay taxes and can vote for whoever I want. "
Golden Mean wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:14 PM:
" Peter,
Buffett will make much more than he will loose. Historically, the market goes up approx 10% when looked at in the long term. He won't be existing on any of his long term investments as will therefore avoid a loss.
Remember how much the market went down after the dot com bust and then again after 9-11?
I went all cash 6 months ago and will re-enter the market when it dips below 8k. Buffett is doing the same thing but on a larger scale and he will make billions over the next two years.
Hang in there Peter, all will be well in two years. In the meantime, watch the market and look for 2-3 day cycles but always cash out 1 hour before the market closes. "
Buffett will make much more than he will loose. Historically, the market goes up approx 10% when looked at in the long term. He won't be existing on any of his long term investments as will therefore avoid a loss.
Remember how much the market went down after the dot com bust and then again after 9-11?
I went all cash 6 months ago and will re-enter the market when it dips below 8k. Buffett is doing the same thing but on a larger scale and he will make billions over the next two years.
Hang in there Peter, all will be well in two years. In the meantime, watch the market and look for 2-3 day cycles but always cash out 1 hour before the market closes. "
Peter wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:59 PM:
" Don't know what you're refering to GM. I too believe the market will recover. I am just saying that even if Mr Buffet did lose oodles of $$'s he is simply in a better position to absorb that loss more so than the rest of us. Good thing I am in the market for the long run. I have not pulled any thing out nor do I intend to. After all it is my retirement, but man has the fund taken a wicked hit this last month and a half. "
Golden Mean wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:47 PM:
" Wrongo Peter,
When the market swings, there's big bucks being made. Watch for 2-3 day swings at approx 7-10% each. Last month did the flip flop four times!
The only money being lost is by those who are pulling out of the market. We'll be back over 10,000 in 2 years but don't be suprised if we go under 7k before that happens.
Learn to play the swing and play hard by the rules! "
When the market swings, there's big bucks being made. Watch for 2-3 day swings at approx 7-10% each. Last month did the flip flop four times!
The only money being lost is by those who are pulling out of the market. We'll be back over 10,000 in 2 years but don't be suprised if we go under 7k before that happens.
Learn to play the swing and play hard by the rules! "
fun gal wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:45 PM:
" I've got a conviction about him that I don't get very often," he told the Tribune at the time. "He has as much potential as anyone I've seen to have an important impact over his lifetime on the course that America takes.---Warren Buffet August 16, 2007
Warren Buffet probably the most successful investor in history and one of the richest men in the world is behind Obama for President.
Attention Smart Republicans: Theres a reason Warren Buffet is for Obama. Theres a reason he thinks Obama is best for America. You must realize that its not an arbitrary thing for him to back a presidential candidate. Buffet isnt an arbitrary type of guy.
Think about what Buffet is good at. Think about where his expertise is. Hes a master of analyzing situations and making sound judgements about the future. Dont you see the similarity between investment savvy and the ability to assess what our country needs in a leader? "
Warren Buffet probably the most successful investor in history and one of the richest men in the world is behind Obama for President.
Attention Smart Republicans: Theres a reason Warren Buffet is for Obama. Theres a reason he thinks Obama is best for America. You must realize that its not an arbitrary thing for him to back a presidential candidate. Buffet isnt an arbitrary type of guy.
Think about what Buffet is good at. Think about where his expertise is. Hes a master of analyzing situations and making sound judgements about the future. Dont you see the similarity between investment savvy and the ability to assess what our country needs in a leader? "
Libs out wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:45 PM:
" Hey, where are all 25% of the states lib's that thought Idaho was a liberal state. You Lib's got your azz handed to ya. Idaho is a conservative state and don't forget it. If you don't like the thought of that, move back where you came from and start the change you have always wanted!!!!
Good Bye Lib's, this state is for the hard working honest type that like to spend our own hard day earnings!!! "
Good Bye Lib's, this state is for the hard working honest type that like to spend our own hard day earnings!!! "
Peter wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:40 PM:
" Fungal, even if Mr Buffet is losing money on the market I am sure he can afford it. It is chump change to him. Not that there is anything wrong with it. Just a reality. "
fun gal wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:18 PM:
" Hey, Who will Obama Tax, You're my kinda guy/gal. Thanks for pointing that out. I would be proud to have you as one of my friends. That's exactly what Ralph Nader was preaching...He got my vote.....early "
fun gal wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:11 PM:
" Does anybody wonder if Warren Buffet is losing his butt in the stock market? "
To Who Will Obama Tax wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:02 PM:
" Have you ever gotten a job other than a hand one by a poor person? Oh I see. You want your brain surgeon to make as much as the street sweeper. Good luck with that. "
Sharon wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:00 PM:
" Lets see, first order of business is lets hurry and bail out the car manufacturers with another $25 Billion, the last $25 Billion a few weeks ago was just not enough, the poor CEO's just didn't get big enough bonuses. Way to go Pelosi, and she is doing it with a big smile on her face...
Way to go America...this is really headed for "change"
Until Americans vote out both these worthless parties you will keep getting treated with the same blatant disregard as usual....Your reap what you sow!!
There is just not an ounce of difference between these two partys...at least that is MHO...we shall see! "
Way to go America...this is really headed for "change"
Until Americans vote out both these worthless parties you will keep getting treated with the same blatant disregard as usual....Your reap what you sow!!
There is just not an ounce of difference between these two partys...at least that is MHO...we shall see! "
Just Me wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:59 PM:
" Title of office does not dictate respect. Obama may have won the title but not the respect. He wasn't elected for his policies, he was elected because of the color of his skin, the shreds of white guilt and the amount of uneducated voters that are allowed to vote.
If you don't agree with the choice of the president elect, all the dems can do is call names, tell you to move to another country, etc. This is typical democrat behavior. They have such witty repertoire because they're so smart. They are incapable of discussing facts without calling names and being nasty. It's their way. "
If you don't agree with the choice of the president elect, all the dems can do is call names, tell you to move to another country, etc. This is typical democrat behavior. They have such witty repertoire because they're so smart. They are incapable of discussing facts without calling names and being nasty. It's their way. "
Who Will Obama Tax wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:57 PM:
" Okay all you penny-ante reactionaries raging about taxes - who would Obama tax? Let's see: how about AIG CEO Martin Sullivan who was paid $42,500 PER DAY EVERY DAY to drive his company under; Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein who was paid $192,700 PER DAY EVERY DAY to drive his company under (until Buffet bailed them out with $5 Billion); Washington Mutual CEO Kerry Killinger who was paid $38,000.00 PER DAY EVERY DAY to drive his company under - and there's thousands of those scumbags that think they need or deserve that kind of money - add sports stars, celebrities.... get the picture? Why can't they pay a greater percentage? They're not choosing between paying taxes and paying for food and health care. I hope Obama does get tax happy with those people. They'll still be hugely wealthy eben after and I have absolutely no problem if Obama wants to tax those folks and use it for federal payroll, medicare, infrastructure repair or any other program that migrates that money down to the working people who need it and will spend it locally. "
To Silly Anita wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:50 PM:
" Good. It's divided and I hope it stays divided and does fall so we can get rid of all you "head in the sand" undereducated dems around here! "
To Anita wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:45 PM:
" Thumbs up Anita!
When Sen. McCain was cornered on his place of birth (Panama on a U.S military base), the Democrats were on that like white on rice. He immediately satisfied the requirement. It is a requirement in order to be a candidate for the presidency. Why then is it taking a court order for president elect Obama to satisfy such a basic requirement. There are several articles and videos on the matter including a politician/lawyer in Pennsylvania from the DNC (democratic national committee) who has initiated a law suit requiring this information. It's very basic why then has Obama not put the issue to rest? I believe this is important to all Americans regardless of your party affiliation. Do we really want a president of this country to hide behind legalisms?
ww w.youtube. com/watch?v=6Glyla5R7B8 "
When Sen. McCain was cornered on his place of birth (Panama on a U.S military base), the Democrats were on that like white on rice. He immediately satisfied the requirement. It is a requirement in order to be a candidate for the presidency. Why then is it taking a court order for president elect Obama to satisfy such a basic requirement. There are several articles and videos on the matter including a politician/lawyer in Pennsylvania from the DNC (democratic national committee) who has initiated a law suit requiring this information. It's very basic why then has Obama not put the issue to rest? I believe this is important to all Americans regardless of your party affiliation. Do we really want a president of this country to hide behind legalisms?
ww w.youtube. com/watch?v=6Glyla5R7B8 "
MyOpinion wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:47 PM:
" Swirling down the toilet? What's it doing now....Hey TIM...have you checked your 401k lately???????? "
Tim wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:11 PM:
" The only positive thing that has come out of this election is that there are so few Republicans left that when this country starts to swirl down the toilet at warp speed, the Democrats will have nobody to blame but themselves. And us Republicans can sit back and bi#$h, moan, criticize, point fingers and swear at the Democrats just like they have done to us. I think this might be fun afterall! "
MyOpinion wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:03 PM:
" Bill Sali's gone, we have a democrat representing our house district, we have a president elect that's smarter than me, and George Bush looks like he can't get outta Dodge fast enough....all's right with world. Oh, and McCain aides have really stuck it to Caribou Barbi....I love it when things go bad for republicans...they eat their own. "
PMP wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:40 PM:
" From my understanding many folks followed the Ron Paul campaign here in N Idaho... It seems the support bumper stickers to lawn yard signs supporting Paul's campaign was at least twice fold to any other candidate running on the presidential ticket. "
to Anita wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:22 PM:
" You're the one who is brainwashed, honey."
-- And you're the ones that lost, sweetheart. And that IS the trump card. Deal with it. Privately. "
-- And you're the ones that lost, sweetheart. And that IS the trump card. Deal with it. Privately. "
JGT wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:17 PM:
" Bob Mood... What we know is that some people have raised concerns about Obama's citizenship. We also know that answering those concerns is a really simple thing to do but Obama has directed that it not be done. Why would Obama do that? Why is it requiring a court action to get Obama to clear up a simple, but important issue? Do ask us if we think Obama is not a citizen ask yourself why Obama is making such a fuss about dispelling the issue. "
Anita wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:13 PM:
" Bob Mood wrote:
" Republicans sure know how to try to spread fear. Do you really Believe Obama isn't a real citizen and should provide his birth certificate? Why don't you stop being a coward and just admit your a racist. We are not about to lose our country and if you actually believe that youve been brainwashed over the last 8 years. "
You're laughable. Cowards are the ones who always pull out the race card. You're the one who is brainwashed, honey. "
" Republicans sure know how to try to spread fear. Do you really Believe Obama isn't a real citizen and should provide his birth certificate? Why don't you stop being a coward and just admit your a racist. We are not about to lose our country and if you actually believe that youve been brainwashed over the last 8 years. "
You're laughable. Cowards are the ones who always pull out the race card. You're the one who is brainwashed, honey. "
Bob Mood wrote on Nov 6, 2008 4:08 PM:
" Republicans sure know how to try to spread fear. Do you really Believe Obama isn't a real citizen and should provide his birth certificate? Why don't you stop being a coward and just admit your a racist. We are not about to lose our country and if you actually believe that youve been brainwashed over the last 8 years. "
Silly Anita wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:58 PM:
" "This is my country and my Constitution and nobody is going to take that away from me."
This is OUR country and OUR Constitution and nobody is going to take that away from US. Remember Anita, it is We the people... It is not just about you. United we stand and Divided we fall. "
This is OUR country and OUR Constitution and nobody is going to take that away from US. Remember Anita, it is We the people... It is not just about you. United we stand and Divided we fall. "
Bob Mood wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:50 PM:
" I still can't get over the fact that we won! Remember when it was considered unpatriotic to say anything bad about Bush when he was running for re election. Keep reminding the radical right of that when they say Obama is not their president. "
Anita wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:44 PM:
" To Anita's Predictions wrote:
Whatever they may be, are utterly suspect, as she was predicting a Republican blowout just a few days ago. Wishful thinking is not something to base analysis on. "
I didn't predict anything before this election. But I'm predicting now. The Democrats wanted this job so bad, they had better produce. I do, however, predict that it won't be long before the Obama worshippers find themselves in the same sorry boat as the Bush supporters landed in.
I think the majority of you people are missing the point. We are on the verge of losing our country here. This is not a black or white game, and has absolutely nothing to do with race. The Democrats gave up legislating by the Constitution many years ago. Then the Republicans decided to take a whack at it. In the process this country is rapidly losing it's identity.
As for Obama's birth certificate. I'm tired of people being let off the hook just because they are a minority. The same for the illegal aliens. They break the law and come into this country using false documents, which is a felony, and they're not even charged for it. Let an American pull that crap and see how far they get. They can come across our border with a truckload of pot, yet they are let go unless they are carrying over 500 pounds. If an American gets caught with a little baggie, his butt is in jail. This PC crap has gone too far. And you Obama bellyachers seem to think just because you've won the election, that the rest of us have lost our freedom of speech. Nice little socialist game and I'm not playing. This is my country and my Constitution and nobody is going to take that away from me. "
Whatever they may be, are utterly suspect, as she was predicting a Republican blowout just a few days ago. Wishful thinking is not something to base analysis on. "
I didn't predict anything before this election. But I'm predicting now. The Democrats wanted this job so bad, they had better produce. I do, however, predict that it won't be long before the Obama worshippers find themselves in the same sorry boat as the Bush supporters landed in.
I think the majority of you people are missing the point. We are on the verge of losing our country here. This is not a black or white game, and has absolutely nothing to do with race. The Democrats gave up legislating by the Constitution many years ago. Then the Republicans decided to take a whack at it. In the process this country is rapidly losing it's identity.
As for Obama's birth certificate. I'm tired of people being let off the hook just because they are a minority. The same for the illegal aliens. They break the law and come into this country using false documents, which is a felony, and they're not even charged for it. Let an American pull that crap and see how far they get. They can come across our border with a truckload of pot, yet they are let go unless they are carrying over 500 pounds. If an American gets caught with a little baggie, his butt is in jail. This PC crap has gone too far. And you Obama bellyachers seem to think just because you've won the election, that the rest of us have lost our freedom of speech. Nice little socialist game and I'm not playing. This is my country and my Constitution and nobody is going to take that away from me. "
GWB Says wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:38 PM:
" Way too many white trash people here in Kootenai County. Your idealogy is nothing more than being on the verge of insane. Keep this up of being as a red state and county we'll have the neo-nazis back before you can pull the trigger of one's peni$ extension. Bunch of idiots in this state. Laughing mateial for the late night shows. Keep it up and we'll also have more episodes of "COPS" being filmed here. "
To bumper sticker wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:00 PM:
" Heck yea!! Where can I get one of those??!!!
I see gun sales skyrocketing in the next few years.. "
I see gun sales skyrocketing in the next few years.. "
One term wonder wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:49 PM:
" Walt Minnick's narrow victory was nothing more than his good fortune of running against a weak candidate. "
Its OhBummer wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:28 PM:
" Checking out the many public forums so far, it appears that an Obama Presidency has served more to polarize than to unite. "
CW wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:24 PM:
" Wasn't change supposed to happen 15 years ago when a republican controlled the governorship and the legislature? Hmmm...it didn't....so I have no reason to think that it will this time. Kootenai county voters, I am ashamed that you all supported such an idiot, people form Kootenai COunty are truly idiots. "
sean wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:13 PM:
" to TCI
Oh no, not socialized retirement and health care! There is a spectre haunting Idaho. It is the spectre of inexpensive healthcare for everyone and alternatives to the freedom-quashing measures and Orwellian deception that have become an American core values over the past 8 years.
Of course you are wrong, and you obviously don't know much about things in a general kind of way. It's just so wonderful to see you cowboys get washed out. Please keep all of your tears in ziplock bags and send them to me. When I drink them, they restore my spirit. "
Oh no, not socialized retirement and health care! There is a spectre haunting Idaho. It is the spectre of inexpensive healthcare for everyone and alternatives to the freedom-quashing measures and Orwellian deception that have become an American core values over the past 8 years.
Of course you are wrong, and you obviously don't know much about things in a general kind of way. It's just so wonderful to see you cowboys get washed out. Please keep all of your tears in ziplock bags and send them to me. When I drink them, they restore my spirit. "
gwb wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:50 AM:
" North Idaho means nothing in the political world outside its paddy cell boundaries. Who cares about North Idaho's politics - no one. We are a bunch of losers. Gad that felt good to get off my chest. "
dj wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:32 AM:
" hopefully barak will see that there is no need for the affirmative action program anymore since he said himself, in his opening remarks, the sky is the limit for anyone in this country--go for it. after all, it was just a short time ago he was handling a new process for renewal of license plates in illinois. "
TCI wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:31 AM:
" And so the socialism begins. The democrats and Obama are discussing a GOVERNEMENT TAKEOVER OF 401k plans. Thats right, they are discussing taking over individuals retirement plans. It sure didnt take them long to begin the socialism and control. Being a democrat is all about power and control. Anyone who voted for Obama and the democrats deserves to have their 401 / retirement plan taken over by the government. Now that the Senate and House are democrat controlled, this very well may happen. I hope you lose every penny just so you can see how ignorant you were. This is being widely discussed on several talk shows and media outlets if you dont believe it. Big brother and the government has only started to control you life. Just think how great it will be when they take over your 401k, run it into the ground like they have social security, yet give checks to those who dont even work or pay taxes off the backs of us hardworking tax payers! "
Bob Mood wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:25 AM:
" watching Sali lose was almost as exciting as watching Obama win. "
Hard Truths wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:04 AM:
" The headline should have read. Wingnutism survives here in Kookenai county. "
Niles wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:00 AM:
" TO: Icca't wait...
Now Obama has his chance. I am just resonating the promises Obama made in order to earn that opportunity. Should Obama not be held to the promises that he made the pillars of his own campaign?
I've not said anything about GWB. The man did not run for pres did he? Just because that was the position hammered by Obama has nothing to do with me or with the myriad of lofty promises Obama made to the electorate.
If there are no problems with Obama's birthright then why is he working so hard to hamstring investigations into the issue? It is only because Obama is battling the issue that it is an issue at all. I mean when Palin came along she was investigated down to the womb practically. The Dems did the same to Joe the Plumber. If Joe and Palin can be so closely examined why not the leader of the country? You tell me, what is he hiding?
It was the Dems who chose to run a candidate bereft of experience or qualifications. It is hard to get behind a candidate when there is no substance to get behind. Well he has prevailed. Now he gets to perform. The handbill he sold to get the job was pretty darn sterling so my expectations of the man are just that. Did you vote for him for some other reason? "
Now Obama has his chance. I am just resonating the promises Obama made in order to earn that opportunity. Should Obama not be held to the promises that he made the pillars of his own campaign?
I've not said anything about GWB. The man did not run for pres did he? Just because that was the position hammered by Obama has nothing to do with me or with the myriad of lofty promises Obama made to the electorate.
If there are no problems with Obama's birthright then why is he working so hard to hamstring investigations into the issue? It is only because Obama is battling the issue that it is an issue at all. I mean when Palin came along she was investigated down to the womb practically. The Dems did the same to Joe the Plumber. If Joe and Palin can be so closely examined why not the leader of the country? You tell me, what is he hiding?
It was the Dems who chose to run a candidate bereft of experience or qualifications. It is hard to get behind a candidate when there is no substance to get behind. Well he has prevailed. Now he gets to perform. The handbill he sold to get the job was pretty darn sterling so my expectations of the man are just that. Did you vote for him for some other reason? "
To I cant wait... wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:58 AM:
" "No President in history has been as bad for the country as King George II."
And as bad as he was, his approval rating was still consistantly double that of our Democrat controlled Congress to which we have just increased their numbers.
Jimmy Carter trumps all others for poor leadership, a foreign policy doofus who was also responsible for out of control inflation and painfully high interest rates. "
And as bad as he was, his approval rating was still consistantly double that of our Democrat controlled Congress to which we have just increased their numbers.
Jimmy Carter trumps all others for poor leadership, a foreign policy doofus who was also responsible for out of control inflation and painfully high interest rates. "
I cant wait... wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:28 AM:
" ...for Niles and Anita to run for office again! Voting directly against you again will be even more fun than voting for Obama and Minnick! The whining just won't stop with you two. On election night, I sat with with my wife and said that no matter who wins, we have to be hopeful that things will get better. No President in history has been as bad for the country as King George II. But the two of you just can't turn it off, can you? You can't just give him a chance. All because he has a little (D) after his name.
Niles, I used to think you were an educated type. But a couple of days ago, you were so desperate in your ranting that you wrote about Obama's lack of a birth certificate. Do you really, truly think if this was true, and not just internet bull, that the the National Republican Party would just let it go? Are you that stupid, or are you that manipulative towards the people who are that stupid?
"Community watchdog" is just a name for a person who lets everyone else do the hard work while they sit around and complain. We have enough of those. Get off your a$$ and contribute something other than hate and discontent to YOUR community. "
Niles, I used to think you were an educated type. But a couple of days ago, you were so desperate in your ranting that you wrote about Obama's lack of a birth certificate. Do you really, truly think if this was true, and not just internet bull, that the the National Republican Party would just let it go? Are you that stupid, or are you that manipulative towards the people who are that stupid?
"Community watchdog" is just a name for a person who lets everyone else do the hard work while they sit around and complain. We have enough of those. Get off your a$$ and contribute something other than hate and discontent to YOUR community. "
bumper sticker wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:13 AM:
" I still like the bumper sticker I saw in Texas: I'll keep my money, guns, and freedom... you can keep 'The Change' "
Will wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:05 AM:
" I have to agree with Niles. Even in the face of a huge Democrat turnout, Idaho remains relatively unscathed. The "Sportsmen for Minnick" yard signs were a real laugh though, classic chameleon. "
To Cowards wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:56 AM:
" Unless Cowards is your real name, your rant includes yourself. "
Spin Republicans spin your hearts out wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:46 AM:
" Spin the results away all day long and it still won't chance the fundamentals:
You Lost. "
You Lost. "
Not fashionable wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:44 AM:
" I couldn't agree with you more, Anita and Niles! Voting for Obama was "fashionable;" not necessarily what was right for our country. McCain voters were hard-working Americans that wanted to keep that work localized instead of letting it explode across the country, landing on those that take the life out of our government in the first place (lazy people, welfare recipients). It's been said that this is a historical moment - Obama, an african-american, has become president. Can we move past that? Color/race doesn't matter anymore. We don't judge, base opinions, or discriminate according to race anymore! I don't know of an african-american that didn't vote for Obama, based on the fact that he was black and it was empowering to them and their families. Race shouldn't matter. I thought our country was more mature than that. "
Anitas predictions wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:42 AM:
" Whatever they may be, are utterly suspect, as she was predicting a Republican blowout just a few days ago. Wishful thinking is not something to base analysis on. "
Cowards wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:40 AM:
" It's so easy to be mean to people and say brutal things when hiding under the "anonimity" of this electronic forum. It reminds me of the "Wizard of Oz." Hiding behind your electronic curtain to make people think you're scary is really sad and pathetic. Be nice, people! Haven't any of you learned to debate without being cruel? "
Huffer wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:29 AM:
" Niles, you say that folks in the metropolitan areas will benefit most from Obama's "socialistic" policies. Are you intimating that folks who live in metropolitan areas are poor?
Last time I checked the cost of living in Seattle, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles was a lot higher than in rural areas.
How are those folks making big money in the big cities going to benefit from Obama's "socialistic" policies?
Perhaps your statement was a wee bit of an over-generalization? "
Last time I checked the cost of living in Seattle, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles was a lot higher than in rural areas.
How are those folks making big money in the big cities going to benefit from Obama's "socialistic" policies?
Perhaps your statement was a wee bit of an over-generalization? "
Anita wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:01 AM:
" You're right, Niles. The Republicans caused their own problems by giving up their core principles and leaning more to the left with the Democrats, making it hard for voters to see much difference between the two. The Democrats, not liking the competition, moved even further to the left and chose an extreme liberal leader. The Republicans are in bad shape right now because they are struggling to regain their identity, but the Democrats are in worse shape. Grab some popcorn and sit back and watch the show, because I predict the Democrats will self destruct because they'll have no one to blame but themselves if they don't produce. "
Niles wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:35 AM:
" If you explore the presidential voting characteristics around the country you will find many areas just like around here. Typically a county either voted heavy for Obama or heavy for McCain. Rarely was it a close 5% margin. Usually it was a 20+% margin either way. The key difference is the major metropolitan areas went for Obama in a big way. Those are the populations that look to benefit from Obama's socialistic programs. But in the same state the rural areas uniformly supported McCain in a huge way. There were just not enough of them to carry the election. If the election was determined by acreage the Dems would have lost big time.
Obama may have won the election but when you consider the tremendous advantages he had in funds, media bias and the on-going fiscal disaster he did not win by much. He bought the election with funds from who knows where or whom. Now we shall see who bought Obama as he now must repay those debts.
McCain was an adynamic politician and his campaign conducted in a rather archaic fashion. Still he captured a large segment of the vote. But, I suspect people were not voting for McCain as much as they voting against Obama. There are a lot of people very unhappy with an Obama victory and I doubt it Obama or the Democrats care. Obama is still an unknown quantity. "
Obama may have won the election but when you consider the tremendous advantages he had in funds, media bias and the on-going fiscal disaster he did not win by much. He bought the election with funds from who knows where or whom. Now we shall see who bought Obama as he now must repay those debts.
McCain was an adynamic politician and his campaign conducted in a rather archaic fashion. Still he captured a large segment of the vote. But, I suspect people were not voting for McCain as much as they voting against Obama. There are a lot of people very unhappy with an Obama victory and I doubt it Obama or the Democrats care. Obama is still an unknown quantity. "
Chris wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:19 AM:
" There were many Republican seats that were unopposed. Can't vote for a Democrat if they don't run. Regardless it was good to see the voter turnout be what it was. "
Stupid dems wrote on Nov 7, 2008 1:23 PM:
Hard to vote for democrats when they are too dam n lazy to even run for office.
yet they complain the the Repubs keep getting elected.
Are they really that dumb? "