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The meaning of peace

Arun Gandhi speaks about his grandfather at Human Rights Banquet

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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:00 am

COEUR d'ALENE - We have to become the change we wish to see in the world.

It was his grandfather's message, and Arun Gandhi, grandson of the legendary pacifist and spiritual leader, Mahatma Gandhi, carried that message Monday to North Idaho.

Arun shared some of the lessons he learned from his grandfather with more than 450 people who attended the Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations' 14th annual Human Rights Banquet at the Best Western Coeur d'Alene Inn.

"Non-violence is about learning how to be with your anger and learning how to channel it positively and constructively," Arun told the crowd.

Like his grandfather, Arun learned the benefits of peaceful conflict resolution from his own life experiences.

Arun grew up in apartheid South Africa. He was beaten at the age of 10 by blacks who thought he was too white, and whites who thought he was too black.

Arun began working out, trying to gain strength because he was planning a physical response. That's when his parents sent him to live with his grandfather in India.

"Anger is like electricity," Arun said.

If electricity is channeled properly, it can be used for the good of humanity, he said. Without proper direction, electricity becomes dangerous and destructive.

His grandfather showed him how to become aware of his own anger through daily self-assessment. Arun was told to keep an anger journal, with a caveat. He had to write with a focus on finding a solution, and then commit to it.

Another of his grandfather's lessons came from a pencil. It had become too small, so Arun threw it away, because he assumed his grandfather would give him a new one.

That didn't happen. His grandfather grilled Arun about the pencil, and then made him go find it outside in the dark, which took several hours.

His grandfather then told him, "Even in the making of a simple thing like a pencil, you are using the world's resources. When you throw it away, that is violence against nature." That led to a lesson about over-consumption, "violence against humanity," that occurs, Arun said, when affluent communities and countries use more resources than they need, leaving less for others who are disadvantaged.

"We are all committing violence, directly or indirectly," he said.

His grandfather taught him about physical and passive violence by again, having Arun review and analyze his own thoughts and behaviors. The problem with passive violence, he said, is that it generates anger in the victim.

"Passive violence fuels physical violence," he said.

It serves no purpose to wait for others to change, he said. People can only change themselves, and be the change they wish to see in the world.

"Our relationships today are so poor because they are all based on self-interest," Arun said.

Another problem he sees is a justice system based on revenge and punishment rather than reformation, a culture that seeps into homes where children are raised.

"This perpetuates a culture of violence," Arun said. "In a non-violent society, it is not punishment that is important, but penance."

People need to stop trying to divide the good from the evil, he said, and begin focusing on bringing out the good in all people.

Try finding forgiveness instead of reacting in anger, he suggested. Violence only cultivates more violence, hate, prejudice, and evil.

He told a story about how his grandfather, while preparing an anti-apartheid campaign, was approached by striking railway workers who were marching and spewing angry slogans. The workers asked the elder Gandhi to join their cause, because they were fighting "the same enemy."

Arun's grandfather told them, "I'm not fighting enemies. I'm trying to reform my friends."

The workers' anger weakened their cause, allowing the government to "crush them."

The elder Gandhi's campaign could not be crushed, Arun said, because he didn't treat the other as his enemy, and worked to transform them with love and respect.

Before closing, Arun told a story about an ancient king who sought the meaning of peace. An old sage placed a grain of wheat in the ancient king's palm and told him that was the meaning of peace. The king didn't understand it, but he put the grain in a box, and opened it every day looking for answers. Eventually, the king asked an intellectual what the grain of wheat meant. The king was told that as long as he keeps the grain in the box, it will eventually rot and perish. He must expose the grain of wheat to the elements, to allow it to grow and flourish.

"That is the meaning of peace," Arun said.

It cannot be kept locked up and expected to grow.

"I have come here this evening to give you a grain of wheat," he said.

Arun Gandhi and his late wife, Sunanda, founded the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence at The University of Rochester in New York. He travels throughout the nation, and the world, promoting his grandfather's teachings.

The task force's annual Civil Rights Award was presented to Kootenai County Prosecutor Barry McHugh in recognition of his efforts in successfully prosecuting hate crimes.

Marissa Williams, publisher, and Scott Callister, editor of the Blue Mountain Eagle, a weekly newspaper covering Grant County, Ore., were also given a civil rights award by the group. The newspaper was recognized for organizing a community response in 2010 that prevented a white supremacist leader from establishing a homeland in that county.

The Bill Wassmuth Memorial Volunteer-of-the-Year Award was given to former Coeur d'Alene School District Superintendent Doug Cresswell, a longtime former board member of the task force. Cresswell was president of the task force board from 1997 through 2001. During that time, the task force countered parades organized by Aryan Nation leaders with a successful "Lemons to Lemonade" fundraising campaign that raised thousands of dollars for human rights groups. It was also during that time that the Keenan v. Aryan Nations trial took place. The case eventually bankrupted the white supremacist organization, and forced them to lose their Hayden Lake compound.

Recipients of this year's Senator Mary Lou Reed and Governor Phil Batt North Idaho College Minority Scholarships are Tim Clark, Katherine Sailto, Rose Childs and Igor Sivov.

The task force also presented a check to the Gonzaga University Institute for Hate Studies to establish a permanent student scholarship in memory of Eva Lassman.

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  • RadRevD posted at 9:56 am on Thu, Apr 14, 2011.

    RadRevD Posts: 3333

    HREI is pushing a strawman argument here when it doesn't appreciably exist anymore.
    HREI is using public schools as one of its venues for the 'walk in another's shoes' sensitivity programming.

    HREI wasted taxpayer money, ie police investigative time...Rachael!!!
    Where is the video surveillance of the swastika?
    Were your fingerprints on the noose???

    The question that really needs to be asked: How has HREI made a positive impact on our community?
    HREI has a right to exist, but I liken it to a flea on a dog....time to bathe the dog!

  • Peter posted at 9:22 pm on Wed, Apr 13, 2011.

    Peter Posts: 675

    Except they don't pipe bomb to Federal builidings, homes of Catholic Priests, or run people off the road because they are a Jew and so on...

    That is not a blanket statement. Those incidents were well covered by local news and the CDA Press we blog on. I just asked a simple question. How has Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations affected your (anyone) life in such a negative way that they are somehow on par with the aryans? I don't think there is anything wrong with that question. I am just curious.

  • Randy Myers posted at 1:24 pm on Wed, Apr 13, 2011.

    Randy Myers Posts: 1635

    @Rad Rev.......More dazzled by the hindu preacher then the conspiracy driven Rev for sure.

    @JW....Your failure to recognize the value of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says it all . Guess you can't even see the contribution of the US Constitution to it. Blah blah teaparty blah all you want. Also, peter's comments weren't "overly generalized statements" but, rather, fact.

    @ Peter....You are correct in your assessment of my view of the UN. It has quite a way to go itself. Good question r.e. the Task Force.

    @ uncle fester.....Probably right. I am feeding ole JW. Notice he wants to stereotype you :P

  • Jeffrey Wherley posted at 9:58 am on Wed, Apr 13, 2011.

    Jeffrey Wherley Posts: 3969

    "Except they don't pipe bomb to Federal builidings, homes of Catholic Priests, or run people off the road because they are a Jew and so on..."

    It's overly generalized statements like that, that give people like Randy the thought that those things happen at a epidemic rate, when in reality they are maybe once a year by disturbed individuals. The radicals like KC "human rights groups" use those as an indictment against the right when when in actuality most are from either Apolitical or totally radical left and right disturbed people.

    Blanket statements like that one of yours does no good to the effort of true humans rights issue and just give fodder to those with radical agendas, like Randy.and HREI. The man that took control of the Discovery Channel HQ in DC last year, a disturbed Individual leftist Radical, the man that Suicided his plane into a texas IRS building last year A disturbed individual leftist radical, the shooter in AZ of Gabby and multiple others a disturbed apolitical individual, The Arsonists of Christian Churches in Texas Atheistic Radicals two young men who took their hatred of Christianity way too far, Backpack bomber at MLK March a Neo-Nazi racist of so far unknown political agenda just hate of anyone not white enough for them is my guess. What do all of these have in common? Disturbed and hat-filled individuals is their only connects, to lump them as a group is not helpful at all, in fact it creates a problem of it's own, agenda driven hatred, like Randy and The Truth portrays. Fester is not far off but I will reserve my personal judgement on that for more evidence.

  • uncle fester posted at 6:25 am on Wed, Apr 13, 2011.

    uncle fester Posts: 831

    Suggest some of you bloggers make a comment and move on. Right wing logic is boring.

  • Peter posted at 7:21 pm on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Peter Posts: 675

    The UN does some good things, but the irony is that as long as countries like Iran, Russia, China, Syria, and so on sits on the revolving door of the UN Human Rights Council it is hard to take it seriously. I know you too, Randy, would have a problem with that. Now, that aside, what is it that is so horrible that people continue to gripe about Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations'? How have they personally affected your life?

    " The North Idaho "humans Right Advocates" have become the same as they once opposed and deserve no awards.

    Except they don't pipe bomb to Federal builidings, homes of Catholic Priests, or run people off the road because they are a Jew and so on...

  • Jeffrey Wherley posted at 5:15 pm on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Jeffrey Wherley Posts: 3969


    You can accept the UN all you want but it is impotent to the US constitution. The US violates almost all those articles and I am proud to know we ignore that waste of paper. The US is "We the People of the United States", not "what ever the UN says". Got anything that is relevant? Just look at what is happening all around the world right now, 1000's being killed each day around the world just because they are speaking out against their governments. What is your UN doing? Everything that it can, nothing. I could write up a paper similar to that and it would have to same force of law in America, None.

    You really think a document from the impotent UN can force people to show you dignity? If you do, you're a bigger idiot than you appear to be.

  • DeNiles posted at 3:50 pm on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Randy.... Well yeah. There are TONS of human rights abuses, somewhere on this planet at any one moment. Yet, when these programs come to North Idaho somehow the inference is that this region is some sort of hotbed of white supremacy. That is what rubs people wrong with these presentations. This is further compounded by the often spurious racist headlines driven by the recent ex-Director there at the human rights agency. I have no doubt that we do have our share of hot heads but they do not in any manner represent the regional tenor in our area.

  • RadRevD posted at 3:44 pm on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    RadRevD Posts: 3333

    "It's bigger than the USA"

    Of course it is randy! But it's not quite the one world government I caution against.
    You are so easily dazzled by a Hindu preacher.

    Send in the exalter of purple cows to teach North Idahoans the meaning of peace.
    Let your volts fly out of that box so others can grow while you diminish in living standard.

    The UN Peace Keeping force certainly is preserving the virginity of those they protect.
    No fear...Obama is exporting abortion and RU486 for those people's benefit.

    Under the UN, soon to be NWO guidelines, all humans have the right to die and will be called upon.

  • Randy Myers posted at 3:06 pm on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Randy Myers Posts: 1635

    It's bigger than the USA. DeNiles, I hope you take the time to read this. JW...I await your criticism Mr. Expert on everything

    Welcome to the United Nations. It's your world.
    The United Nations adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the full text consists of :

    Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

    Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

    Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

    Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

    Whereas the peoples of the United Nations have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

    Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

    Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

    Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

    Article 1.
    All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

    Article 2.
    Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

    Article 3.
    Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

    Article 4.
    No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

    Article 5.
    No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

    Article 6.
    Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

    Article 7.
    All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

    Article 8.
    Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

    Article 9.
    No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

    Article 10.
    Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

    Article 11.
    (1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
    (2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

    Article 12.
    No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

    Article 13.
    (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
    (2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

    Article 14.
    (1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
    (2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

    Article 15.
    (1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
    (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

    Article 16.
    (1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
    (2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
    (3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

    Article 17.
    (1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
    (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

    Article 18.
    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

    Article 19.
    Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

    Article 20.
    (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
    (2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

    Article 21.
    (1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
    (2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
    (3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

    Article 22.
    Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

    Article 23.
    (1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
    (2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
    (3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
    (4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

    Article 24.
    Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

    Article 25.
    (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
    (2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

    Article 26.
    (1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
    (2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
    (3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

    Article 27.
    (1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
    (2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

    Article 28.
    Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

    Article 29.
    (1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
    (2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
    (3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

    Article 30.
    Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

  • DeNiles posted at 1:15 pm on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Truth.... So that gives people the right to feel that the gov't should support them from birth to grave? They are free to conduct themselves as they choose. But they have no inalienable right to demand special treatment over anyone else and they do have the right to be treated the same as everyone else. But, I'd agree that I could have worded my point better.

  • Jeffrey Wherley posted at 1:04 pm on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Jeffrey Wherley Posts: 3969


    "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." No other rights Created Equal but not bound to be Equal, Individual choices prevent that from being possible. Unless you want to remove all choice from all people. Pursuit of Happiness doesn't give the right to happiness only the pursuit. But those are I quoted are the only 3 things that locked in a box with nothing given to you, you will still have. Life no matter how fleeting, liberty in your mind and the limits of your given world, and the pursuit of happiness within the given world. Everything else you have is given by an and can be taken by man. Sort of Biblical isn't it.

  • The Truth posted at 12:48 pm on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    The Truth Posts: 2193

    "Randy... By the same token, I hope you also see that people need to be working to earn their human rights, and should not just expect them as some inherent virtue of being the naked ape."

    -- As opposed to the feelings of our Founding Fathers:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"

  • Jeffrey Wherley posted at 10:10 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Jeffrey Wherley Posts: 3969

    Well said, DeNiles

  • DeNiles posted at 9:31 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Randy... By the same token, I hope you also see that people need to be working to earn their human rights, and should not just expect them as some inherent virtue of being the naked ape. It is a very complex subject to discuss let alone enact, and we have way too many espousing the victim role in perpetuity. It is high time that everyone worked hard to contribute to the whole as opposed to some expecting to be carried along because of what happened 1,2,3,4 or 5 generations ago. We should learn from the past while we focus on the future, enlisting those improvements our past mistakes have taught us.

  • Jeffrey Wherley posted at 9:08 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Jeffrey Wherley Posts: 3969


    You do have a very short memory don't you. Yes we did burn almost everyone one of the buildings on the compound, The donation of those building to the fire districts for burning was very appreciated. If you can't remember that 3 weeks of dismantlement of the compound, it's no wonder you forget the rest of the vitriol.

    But you were probably so wrapped into that vitriol you didn't even notice how disgusting and inhuman it was. I have viewed some of the old videos of the Famous Aryan march through CDA that was cut short for fear of their safety, The hatred coming from the bystanders was profound, one finger salutes, and names of every caliber. The Aryans have always been masters of deception, and entice reaction just by being near, that is way their # grow best where people hate them the most. The Hate was here before they came in the 70's, and it is still here today a decade after they are gone. It's sad you still can't see you are part of the problem.

  • Randy Myers posted at 8:22 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Randy Myers Posts: 1635

    Human rights banquet cost = $40

    Coffee , breakfast and discussion of the event= $8.75

    JW = priceless


    Since all you can ever do is attack the messenger, I don't believe I will ever have to worry about you successfully contradicting the sun raising in the west. "

    It was in another thread but I laughed so hard thought it might be entertaining for others as well!

  • Randy Myers posted at 8:07 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Randy Myers Posts: 1635

    Correct rio lobo.

    @JW....Pathetic. HREI and the task force GAVE awards Dr Bozo, didn't RECEIVE them. I really don't recall history the way you do either. In my memory the Aryans garnered no sympathy except from their like. North Idaho was pleased to have seen the lawsuit against them victorious and their compound go down. Also groups did not burn the compound down. Sheesh what a poor poor memory you have JW.

    @squirrel nutkin.....The purpose is to promote human rights. History is what it is. Since it is a subject many are interested in, yes, sometimes we need to review it.

    @DeNiles........Glad you see that the cause of working for human rights isn't done.

    I was a proud volunteer at HREI and will continue to support their mission. despite what JW thinks, there is no joke involved when it comes to working for human rights.

  • rio lobo posted at 7:46 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    rio lobo Posts: 155

    I am sure Mr. Gandhi goes all around the country lecturing in different communities that invite him to do so. Just because the Aryan Nations is no longer an active organization in north Idaho does not mean that there are not people here who need to hear his message. Unfortunately, in any community, the numskulls who need to hear the message are not the ones who attend the lectures.

  • DeNiles posted at 7:25 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Seems odd that this regions old Aryan scar gets lathered-up into a festering boil so routinely. Are we truly verging on a recurrence of a new white supremacy group here in Northern Idaho, or is it these people who need to find cause for their own existence?

    Still, some nice messages from this man. Now he needs to lecture the Black Panthers, the Israelis, the Palestinians, most of the Middle East, the drug cartels in Mexico, the judge who let Duncan go free, etc, etc......

  • Jeffrey Wherley posted at 5:47 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    Jeffrey Wherley Posts: 3969

    Don't get me wrong, North Idaho is better off without the Aryan Nations compound and heavy influence, I was privileged to be part of the groups to burn down their compound. That said.

    When did Gandhi ever embrace the idea, "The Ends Justify the Means"? Any Award given any of the groups or people that brought down the Aryan Nations in KC, is Justifying the most vile, contemptible and Hate filled rhetoric I ever had the displeasure to watch. This came from the correct side in this fight, while the Aryan's had peaceful rallies and quite press conferences. By the end the Aryans had collected more sympathy by using Gandhi's principles, I was almost surprised when they lost their court battle. This hate and contempt still continues to flood today out of our local Joke known as Human Rights Education Institute, and their proud volunteers I'm sure we will here from today.

    Mahiun in another thread stated, "The problem with using an "anything goes" or "show no mercy" to protect yourself from enemies (real or perceived) who use an "anything goes" or "show no mercy" policy against their enemies is..............that you become what you oppose." The North Idaho "humans Right Advocates" have become the same as they once opposed and deserve no awards.

  • squirrel nutkin posted at 4:51 am on Tue, Apr 12, 2011.

    squirrel nutkin Posts: 231

    I certainly hope Kootenai County taxpayers didn't/don't get stuck with the bill for this guy's visit. Maybe if the local bleeding hearts would stop picking at this scab it would heal. And spare me the claptrap psycho babble that if we forget the past we're doomed to repeat it.

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