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Teachers getting extra time for 'collaboration'

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Posted: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:00 am | Updated: 10:01 am, Tue Feb 11, 2014.

COEUR d'ALENE - Monday mornings won't be the same in Coeur d'Alene schools next year.

Beginning in September, the first bell of the day will ring later on Mondays if the school board approves a new schedule devised to give teachers time during their workday to meet, discuss lesson plans, instruction methods and goals.

"We know teaching and learning gets better when teachers collaborate," said Superintendent Hazel Bauman.

Trustees are expected to vote on the new schedule during their regular meeting at 5 p.m. Monday at the Midtown Center, 1505 N. Fifth St.

Bauman said administrators set up a leadership team to work on the school start and finish times last fall.

The concept of "job embedded collaboration" for teachers is something the district has been trying to do for about a decade.

It has being done successfully in schools in Sandpoint and Spokane, Bauman said.

The proposed new schedule will give teachers about two hours to collaborate within their contracted day.

For elementary school students, Monday morning class time will begin at 10 a.m. instead of 8:55 a.m. For the rest of the week, school will run from 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m., adding an extra 15 minutes to each day to make up for the instructional minutes lost on Monday mornings.

The district polled its teachers and out of 400 responses received, just 16 were not in favor of the collaboration schedule.

"My whole belief is that this will improve teaching and learning or I wouldn't be doing this," Bauman said.

Bauman expects some will ask why this isn't being done after school.

Many teachers already continue working at the schools after their contracted work day ends, Bauman said, but many have their own families and other after school obligations, including coaching and advising commitments, making it difficult to have full participation.

"Everyone has to be on the same page for this to work," Bauman said.

At the middle schools, the Monday class schedule will begin at 9:10 a.m. and end at 2:40 p.m., with a 7:55 a.m. to 2:40 p.m. schedule the rest of the week.

Classes at the middle schools now begin at 8 a.m. and end at 2:30 p.m.

Breakfasts and lunches will still be provided every day, including Mondays.

Bauman said for many parents, it will mean making different child care arrangements.

"We would not have gone forward with this without School Plus," Bauman said.

The school district's before and after school child care program will be expanded to meet the demands of the new schedule.

The additional hours will be provided at no additional charge for children already enrolled in School Plus. For families who want to enroll their children in the program on Mondays only, there will be a $14 monthly charge.

In a letter sent home to parents this week, Bauman advised that special arrangements will be made for families who need child care but can't afford it.

"Absolutely no one who cannot afford child care will have to pay for this additional child care burden," Bauman wrote.

Bus routes are being adjusted, and parents are being advised that their children will be picked up about an hour later on Monday mornings.

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  • RadRevD posted at 10:06 pm on Fri, May 14, 2010.

    RadRevD Posts: 3333

    chock your fall monday start to Humanistic ZEAL! SD271 denied you a choice or vote!

  • RadRevD posted at 6:31 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

    RadRevD Posts: 3333

    1933 -- The first Humanist Manifesto is published. Co-author John Dewey, the noted philosopher and educator, calls for a synthesizing of all religions and "a socialized and cooperative economic order."

    Co-signer C.F. Potter said in 1930: "Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American public school is a school of humanism. What can the theistic Sunday schools, meeting for an hour once a week, teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching?

    the process of isolating children from parents started long before 1933!

  • Mod 99 posted at 9:16 am on Mon, May 3, 2010.

    Mod 99 Posts: 6

    The day we let the government and scholls decide how we raise our kids is the day this whole since of entitlement thing started. Parents are simply the bill payers and the blsame takers when the system doesn't work.

  • RadRevD posted at 1:03 pm on Sat, May 1, 2010.

    RadRevD Posts: 3333

    now that School Loop technology is available, SD271 will likely succeed in forcing compliance as teachers & staff gang up on Little Johnny Christian.

    Turning over a measly $10,000 award, the author of this program stands to reap great reward on an annual basis.

    ( ) far out of the loop are you?

    ( )

  • Idaho Spud posted at 9:02 am on Sat, May 1, 2010.

    Idaho Spud Posts: 40

    Personally I hope this plan falls through. I don't have kids in school, but know there are allot of people out there counting on Little Johnnie going to school so they can go to work. Not everyone can afford Daycare.
    Also there are kids out there that are used to being on a schedule. Doing something like a late start is going to screw that up.. and sometimes really upset the kid.
    Hopefully the public will go to the School Board Meeting on Monday and give them their input.

  • RadRevD posted at 12:15 pm on Thu, Apr 29, 2010.

    RadRevD Posts: 3333

    to Mabell...

    Not likely a follow up story any more than there was on the Central Office mold/mildew crisis, the midnight additions at Lakes MS, or excessive building materials that never got stored properly on school premises.

    Future leaders like Bauman will be honored at the global level for taking the bull by the horns and suppressing it. I am thankful I will not be a citizen of that short-lived kingdom.

    On subject: School Bells ringing later on Monday will have a ripple effect in local dynamics. Beyond simple timing, teachers will be encouraged (strongly) to align with collaborative circles to help a disrespectful Christian child better manners when the issue of Jesus as Creator & exclusivity rears it's ugly and offensive head in a classroom. Behind the scenes, little Johnny will be chastised for his anti-ecumenical, non-universal beliefs....and sometime later his parents will be likewise chastised. That is the direction California schools are headed and they lead the nation in the purchase of politically correct books!

  • Mabell posted at 8:37 am on Thu, Apr 29, 2010.

    Mabell Posts: 151

    Wondering if there is going to be a follow up story or if teachers were too afraid to come forward and talk with Maureen? It would be nice for people to hear the whole story.

  • RadRevD posted at 5:03 pm on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    RadRevD Posts: 3333

    to Mabell...

    Review all the pages associated with the School loop program. It would work nicely in a nice world. You have followed my comments other threads and should conclude that I don't think we live in a nice world. The ruling elite has a hidden agenda that isolates students from their families. Wouldn't a primary teacher want to discuss issues with a student & their parents BEFORE creating a stigma and involving a plethora of school staff?

  • sharetheplanet posted at 4:47 pm on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    sharetheplanet Posts: 809

    "Shouldn't there at least be a public hearing before this change is implemented?

    Mary Souza posted at 10:59 am on Wed, Apr 28 2010."


    Oh Mary, U of all people should have realized this is CdA we're talkin bout!

    Thanks 4 da laugh!

  • Mabell posted at 4:36 pm on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    Mabell Posts: 151

    @ RadRev:
    "It's not a bad idea, but why the back door entry?"

    Exactly. And why now? Clearly this will cost the district money. How can it not? They are cutting positions, increasing class sizes and THIS is their priority? They are asking for cost saving ideas on one hand - and increasing costs on the other. It makes zero sense.

  • RadRevD posted at 4:18 pm on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    RadRevD Posts: 3333

    for insight into the goals for collaborative teaching that is already being implemented in SD271, follow this link:

    It's not a bad idea, but why the back door entry?

  • posted at 12:07 pm on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.


    If there are District 271 teachers or current parents who would like to discuss this for a possible follow-up story, please contact me at The Press, 664-8176 ext. 2005 or

  • Mary Souza posted at 10:59 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    Mary Souza Posts: 783

    As a former working mom with four kids, now grown, how will this change impact parents who start work at 9:00? Families tend to have very tight morning routines to get everyone out the door to school and jobs.

    Shouldn't there at least be a public hearing before this change is implemented?

  • yabetcha posted at 10:25 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    yabetcha Posts: 27

    Job embedded collaboration lasting for 2 hours will require the following:

    1. lots of extra coffee.
    2. extra supply of cups and paper plates.
    3. triple or more order of sweet rolls, donuts.
    4. designated break time for gossip and telling tension.
    4a. Item four can be dispensed with if gossip and telling tension are incorporated
    into the collaboration process.

  • Mabell posted at 8:38 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    Mabell Posts: 151

    The ballot given to teacher gave them the option of a late start on Monday or a late start on Wednesday. Given the choices, it is not surprising that teachers voted for Monday. There was never a vote that asked the teachers if they wanted the late start for collaboration, it was decided by administration.

  • posted at 8:37 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.


    Mom of two, if we can verify what you're saying about teacher preferences we will certainly publish a follow-up story tomorrow. Thanks for the insight.
    - Mike Patrick

  • momoftwo posted at 8:07 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    momoftwo Posts: 1

    As usual the Press has done very little in investigating the story beyond what District 271 has put out in a press release. The decision was made by ADMINISTRATION, not the teachers out in the schools. They wanted to leave the collaboration schedule as it has been, after school. But our "leaders" know better. The only choice teachers had was whether they wanted to start late on Mondays or Wednesdays and while their was a vote, the ADMIN had already decided Monday was the day. No wonder the "vote" came out in their favor.
    Also, where was the parent input on this? As usual, Hazel and her bunch just do what they want to without regards to anyone else. This is just like the Kindercenter decision last year, which was decided by the admin with no parental input. But I am sure we will now have 100% of students at grade level by the end of next year. What a crock!

  • LONEWOLFMP posted at 8:00 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    LONEWOLFMP Posts: 46

    How about this....teachers can go to work 2 hours early on Monday's! I can't believe school is from 9:00 to 3:30! I remember 1st - 8th school starting at 7:45am....and 9 - 12 starting at 7am and both ending at 3pm... Are kids learning anything these days?

    Luckily I don't have kids....but having them start later on Mondays to help the teachers are really going to screw up the schedules for the working parents who make sure their kids get to school before heading to their own jobs.

  • TakeBackTheUSA posted at 6:28 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    TakeBackTheUSA Posts: 765

    Right. This is to improve education in Cda. And nearly 100% of the teachers think Monday morning collaboration is a good idea. Let's see, why would that be. Maybe so they can use that 2 hour slot to get ready for classroom instruction, grade papers, ease into the work week, extol each other with their weekend exploits? Oh, no. It's so they can all sit around and discuss ways to improve the quality of education in Cda. What a crock. How an administration can so totally misunderstand the needs of a community are beyond belief.

  • coexist posted at 6:03 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    coexist Posts: 14

    Did anyone bring little league officials, or soccer/track & field/softball/basketball in to the fold when making this decision? The universal start time for weekday practices is 4:00, which is hard enough to make as it is!

  • Veeeee posted at 5:46 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    Veeeee Posts: 384

    There are many benefits to the collaborative model. However, the school district is asking the community to adopt a new time schedule without adequately educating the citizens about collaborative teaching. A letter from the administrator should only be a start of their communication plan and I would recommend follow up on the school district website with greater depth of information regarding these benefits. There are some potential problems with co-teaching also. I would suggest that the district implement a quality assurance strategy and publish its targeted collaborative goals within the district...followed by quarterly/annual reports regarding the model's progress.

  • DeNiles posted at 4:29 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Now here's a good habit to get kids all set to be responsible adults. Get them used to late starts on Mondays. Y'know I can guarantee you that healthcare workers need extra time to 'organize' work loads. There work actually changes from day to day unlike a 5th grade lesson plan a teacher has taught for 10 years running. Poor, poor teachers. They have student aides, parent classroom assistants. computerized testing, multimedia aids...... I just don't know HOW they do it, and practically for FREE too. And they turn out such fine results! Doesn't Idaho have one of the highest levels of academic achievement in the country, the world? Don't most of our public students move on to higher education? Well, I am sure that these extra Monday morning 'organizing' hours will produce even MORE idaho Einsteins. Now we need to get them edumakators a frappe machine for the lounge. After all they deserve on, eh?

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