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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:00 am

Domestic dogs were attacked by four wolves around 6 p.m. Wednesday night on the 600 block of Burke Road, just outside Wallace.

One dog died and another sustained a facial bite, said Shoshone County Sheriff Mitch Alexander, and there were many wolf tracks in the area.

A neighbor reported the dog that died was a Rottweiler.

Idaho Fish and Game notified residents in the area and informed them that it is legal to shoot the wolf pack.

Calls made to Idaho Fish and Game official Josh Stanley about the attack weren't returned.

Mullan resident Barry Sadler didn't just have his dogs attacked by wolves a few years ago - they chased his daughter into the front door and came right up on his porch. Sadler shot and killed one of the offending wolves.

Regarding Wednesday's attack, he said people don't realize that wolves would rather eat dogs than any other animal.

"They hate each other," he said. "They'll kill dogs any chance they get."

He said wolves just chew animals up a lot of the time without eating them, and called them "treacherous and filthy."

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  • cougar posted at 2:39 pm on Wed, Jan 18, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230


    You hunters have iq's lower than a rat....... So that would make wolf lovers rat sh!t?
    I was talking about the species of the canadian grey wolf, not elk or deer.
    Discussion ended.
    Good By................................

  • carmann posted at 11:36 am on Wed, Jan 18, 2012.

    carmann Posts: 28

    You would know cougar. You hunters have iq's lower than a rat. The deer and elk in the northern rockies are not even close to being on the endangered species list. There are over 300,000 elk combined in Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming.

  • cougar posted at 7:51 am on Wed, Jan 18, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230


    Alaska IS part of the U.S., and DUH it doesn't matter where they are the Grey Wolf isn't even close to be on an endangered species list. They are out there in the thousands.

    And with the I.Q. of a bowling ball, if I was you I wouldn't try educating anyone except myself. You certainly could use it.

  • OnceUponATime posted at 5:18 am on Wed, Jan 18, 2012.

    OnceUponATime Posts: 3

    "So you think you know about the woods, huh?"

    Uh-huh, have spent a good part of my life in the woods, not killing things. That's why I'm so

    "And you think that Grizzlies are worse than wolves, too, huh?"

    You see Joel that's how your thinking gets mixed up. It's not about good and bad, these are top predators, they do what God put them on this earth to do. You assign blame, I see their value. But If I did have to choose facing off against a grizz or wolves, I'd take wolves anytime. As I said they're pussycats compared to the great bear. I've run up against both of them, been bluff charged by a boar grizz. Of course I always carry pepper spray when I hike in grizzly country. If I'm lucky enough to catch a glimpse of wolves they usually just sprint off. I love to hear them howl though, it reminds me of places wild and untamed.

    Ever seen a grizzly kill off a herd of anything?

    Oh there you go worrying about what wolves eat. It's kind of funny you're fixated on that. I personally don't like to see gut shot deer. Or deer with arrows sticking out of them, bleeding to death. Or trapped animals. The real mean predators aren't wolves or bears, if you get my drift.

    "Hmmmm.....but you're such an "expert".

    Yep well, I don't like to brag but I do know my way around. Done lots of trail riding too. I enjoy nature.


  • AnninIdaho posted at 1:27 am on Wed, Jan 18, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78

    Hey cougar, the Gray Wolf was listed as Endangered in the lower 48 states; DUH.
    This is ridiculous; I'd have a better chance of educating kindergarteners...

  • AnninIdaho posted at 1:25 am on Wed, Jan 18, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78

    Link to yet another story clearing wolves of the attack :

  • Iceage posted at 1:21 pm on Tue, Jan 17, 2012.

    Iceage Posts: 49

    ".45 Auto never go into the forest without" - ha ha what is wrong with these people living scared and ignorant.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 9:50 pm on Mon, Jan 16, 2012.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    So you think you know about the woods, huh?
    And you think that Grizzlies are worse than wolves, too, huh?

    Keep talking. Nice to watch you bury yourself.

    Ever seen a grizzly kill off a herd of anything?
    Hmmmm.....but you're such an "expert".

  • OnceUponATime posted at 1:40 pm on Mon, Jan 16, 2012.

    OnceUponATime Posts: 3

    Just don't understand why grown men get their panties in a bunch over wolves? I guess this is slightly off topic but I for one often hike where the great bear lives, yes I mean the GRIZZ. Now that's an apex predator you don't want to mess with, they WILL kill you but only for good reason, Mama's don't like their babies messed with and well, the big boy boars are just cranky sometimes (usually over a food cache)

    I read the signs @ the trail head, it says "This Is Grizzly Country, Act Accordingly" ( I shortened it a bit but you get the jist). Seems they need a few great bears over in Idaho to show everyone who's boss. Wolves are kittens compared to grizzlies. What gives guys??

  • bearlynx posted at 11:09 am on Mon, Jan 16, 2012.

    bearlynx Posts: 10

    folks you can't argue with people who get their life experience from books or newspapers! In the end they always think they know what is best for all the creatures of the world! It's funny how they will pick up a stick (pencil lol) to defend an animal but not pick up weapons when it comes time to defend their own country and freedoms "like speech!" Please remember today is a glorious day we finally got some fresh snow and you know what that means "EASY TRACKING" So get out there, shoot straight, shoot often, and whack as many as those gentle fun loving creatures as you see! Remember you have tag limits LOL!!

    Also please remember to VOTE FOR GOV. B. OTTER I am hoping he makes helicopter wolf hunting affordable if re-elected! Maybe Idaho will get lucky and S. Palin will decide to move here and run for office too, I know she likes wolf hunting!!!

  • teamjohnson posted at 10:34 am on Mon, Jan 16, 2012.

    teamjohnson Posts: 1

    I went up Saturday and Sunday to where the wolves were reported and couldn't find a track. Fresh snow had fallen the night of the attack and there hadn't been any more snow till early yesterday. I hiked over six miles and all I could find was coyote tracks.

  • milburnschmidt posted at 7:57 am on Mon, Jan 16, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    COUGAR you are excused this is getting nasty with anni resorting to below the belt tactics like Idaho roper a City Boy.Thats where women usually end up going after a man where he used to live. This is worse than liberal democrat campaign tactics. Im glad we are able to conceal our real names and identity to avoid being sued by annis coalition for defamation of a wild annimal.
    If Anni wants vindication and a retraction she should get it from the CDA Press who printed the article but the little weasels dont want to endanger their chances of getting another picture or article in the paper. So they pick on a bunch of over the Hill Sr citizens to beat up on and dont have the courage to go burn a candle on Burke road in protest. Anni wants to prevent this from happening again I dont know if she refers to dead dogs or her honor. More wolf pie recipes would alleviate the problem now sit down and rest anni you have been standing up to long. People like cannines like to have their noses in other peoples business the females around here when they see Wilburn yell sit down here comes cold nose..

  • cougar posted at 5:57 am on Mon, Jan 16, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    Mr. President

    I'm bowing out of this boring story as it is going nowhere, but I do have one question for you before I go.

    How did the Grey Wolf get put on the endangered species list when in Alaska, The State of Alaska is using helicopters to hunt and kill these wolves to thin them out?

    Canada, of course is a different country,but has the highest concentration of grey wolves in the world.
    Russia number 2, Alaska number 3. Thousand and thousands and thousands of Grey wolves, but yet they were put on the endangered species list. Why? Doesn't sound too endangered to me. Go figure!!!!!!!

    See Ya My Friend.........

  • cougar posted at 4:04 am on Mon, Jan 16, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230


    Your analogy is hilarious. First off, If someone was accused of a crime and later through evidence found not guilty, it's usually decided by 12 of their piers. In your case you can't do that since there is only 10 of you. So if the wolves what a retraction, they can ask for it themselves. But like the pet owner, nobody has heard a word from them.

    People like you for whatever reason, think you have to have your nose in everybody's business.

  • AnninIdaho posted at 8:33 pm on Sun, Jan 15, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78

    @ Idaho Roper... you sound like a city boy quoting how "it really did happen last year!" Domestic animals are attacked and even killed by wild animals all the time. Cougars, bears, moose, etc etc. Its an unfortunate part of living in the country. People need to do their best to coexist and protect their animals. Personal responsibility. Of course they have the right to defend themselves and their pets against the threat of any wild animal; lethally if need be. I don't see the big deal here. It was probably a couple of stray dogs who attacked this poor Rottweiller on a chain. An awful event, no doubt, but the owner *haven't heard his view on this at all yet* and the community should be looking at preventing it from happening again instead of just "crying wolf."

  • AnninIdaho posted at 8:24 pm on Sun, Jan 15, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78

    @ Cougar.... you said " You DEMAND A RETRACTION???
    Your demand be damned woman. What part of this is your business? The man thought it was wolves, it turned out not to be. So be it."
    So, if you were in the paper for being arrested for , lets just say, making obscene phone calls, and it turns out the evidence showed that actually wasn't true, it was someone else, would you like it to be just let go? "so be it" as you say???
    I have every right to demand a retraction; I make it my business to stand up for a persecuted animal who has no voice.

  • AnninIdaho posted at 8:17 pm on Sun, Jan 15, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78

    KXLY store link...

  • AnninIdaho posted at 8:16 pm on Sun, Jan 15, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78

    This story from KXLY quotes IDFG spokesman, who also said that the prints around were too small to belong to wolves. BTW, IdahoRoper, as to your next paranoid suggestion of "juvenile wolves", all wild juvenile wolves will be about 8-9 months old right now, and they will already have larger feet than a regular large dog. Wolves have oversized feet, and they never grow into them. Their feet are webbed and spread out to act as snowshoes on the snow.

  • cal007 posted at 7:31 pm on Sun, Jan 15, 2012.

    cal007 Posts: 7

    The owner said it was dark so it seemed he ASSUMED it was wolves. This story HAS been corrected if anyone would bother to read it. Canines are territorial animals, as are many other animals in the wild. The updated story says it was coyotes or dogs. The paw prints were too small to be from wolves. Of course, no story about wolves would be complete without the insulting and attacking of someone who hasn't bought into the hysteria and irrational fear of wolves. Nice work, Idaho cement heads.

  • Idaho Roper posted at 12:17 pm on Sun, Jan 15, 2012.

    Idaho Roper Posts: 117

    Anni needs to look back only one year to find evidence of this exact behavior of wolves. This exact situation happened in Montana just last year, when wolves killed dogs right in their yards.

    or this one

    or this one

    or this one

    yep....wolves never come into yards or near people........not.

  • Idaho Roper posted at 12:07 pm on Sun, Jan 15, 2012.

    Idaho Roper Posts: 117

    "A Game Warden"?
    Which one exactly?

    I have yet to see a validation of this comment, I have talked with both of the CO's from that area and both deny having stated it definitely was not wolves.

    I suspect this is the typical wolf exoneration of making an unverifiable claim by the mystery expert.

    This attack would be completely uncharacteristic of coyotes (coyotes usually lure domestic dogs away) and since no more wounded domestic dogs have been found, I find it unlikely they were involved either.

    But once again.......the problem would be solved and the questions answered if people would just start shooting whatever did it, protect your private property, If it wasn't wolves, I see no reason the wolf supporters wouldn't support this action. After all, their wolves wouldn't be getting the bad rap......correct?

    But then again, historically, when the owners have managed to kill the offending attacker,it has turned out to be wolves, juvenile ones at that.....oh, hold on.....perhaps that why the tracks were not the size of full grown wolves.

    Logic applied to this situation, and an evaluation of the evidence. It is well known that adult wolves will allow juveniles to conduct hunts in an attempt to train them. Those last spring pups would be at about that age now wouldn't they? We also know that wolves DO live in the area.

    Deep thinkers? lol, you mean the depth of thought that says...small tracks = it definitely was not wolves?

    Young wolves have smaller feet folks, yet are still more than capable of reaping destruction upon a dog the size of a rottweiler.

  • OnceUponATime posted at 3:33 am on Sun, Jan 15, 2012.

    OnceUponATime Posts: 3

    Anni, thank you for correcting that, good investigative journalism!!

    Those must have been ground squirrel wolf prints. Oh well facts are pesky things, they get in the way of agendas.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 7:28 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Liek I advised in a previous post, I REALLY hope that you go camping & find out truly what wolves are like.
    They'll come & give you a kiss on the nose, they're so sweet.
    Trust me.

    Bet ya the "coyotes" were just baby wolves....

    Pres & Sergeant At Arms:
    No worries on this issue petering out, the wolves will make their own headlne news, again, sorry to say.
    I want the wolfy people to do their own research, but in the woods.

  • milburnschmidt posted at 6:22 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Dear Anni nice to see you back in the discussion. Methinks the lady doth protest to much. Only a woman would confuse discussion with hysteria. No wonder you gals get so upset in the work place and are offended so much. Commenting on a news article that has not been corrected isnt hysteria. Hysteria is when you and your girl friend get your cell phones mixed up and your wife finds it. Hysteria is when you are in the middle of town and your blood pressure medicine kicks in and you have to piddle and cant find a rest room. Hysteria is when your wife is with child and you have been cut. Relax Anni you have the potential to get in the debate with the big boys but no hysterics please. Ill informed would be a better term . Cant we all just get along.

  • cougar posted at 6:03 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    Sorry Mr. President and V.P.

    As soon as I get fired up I'll tell these wolf lovers(all 10 of them) how I really feel.

  • cougar posted at 6:00 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230


    Your demand be damned woman. What part of this is your business? The man thought it was wolves, it turned out not to be. So be it.
    Hopefully their community may rest a little easier, but I doubt it.
    In Mullan just two years ago a man shot and killed a wolf doing the same thing. Trying to kill his dog, as another wolf was chasing his daughter into the house.

    People like you just want to make hunters kill as many wolves as they can. And yes, wolves aren't as smart as you think they are. They will come to a varmit call in a heartbeat. I know, easy kills, real easy kills.

  • AnninIdaho posted at 5:39 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78

    Of course wolves do sometimes attack dogs, expecially those sent out into their territory to pursue bears or cougars. Wolves see dogs as competion and they are very territorial. They will almost never go after a dog however, if there is a human present, due to their fear of humans.
    Dogs similarly are killed by bears, cougars, even moose, etc. much more often, yet thats not news you hear about because people are used to it; so when will they get used to living with wolves again? And quit getting hysterical?

  • AnninIdaho posted at 5:34 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78 " WALLACE, Idaho -- In Shoshone County, Idaho, a man's dog was attacked by what were originally thought to be four wolves. Turns out, they were likely coyotes or dogs.

    NBC Montana dug deeper and found out it was likely a group of coyotes or dogs.

    It happened in a backyard just outside of Wallace, Idaho -- that's about 30 miles west of the Montana state line.

    When he heard the attack, the man ran outside and scared off the animals. He thought they might be wolves, but because it was dark, he didn't get a good look at them.

    A game warden examined the tracks and decided they were too small to belong to wolves..."

  • AnninIdaho posted at 5:28 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    AnninIdaho Posts: 78

    Reporter Kelsey Saints...I , for one, demand a retraction ! See :
    NBC Montana actually investigated and the Game Warden confirmed that due to the smaller pawprints, the attack had to have been done by domestic dogs or possibly coyotes. I doubt even a group of coyotes would take on a Rottweiller however.
    The anti wolf hysteria strikes again !

  • milburnschmidt posted at 5:20 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Thanks cougar between EPA cleanups and layoffs those folks in that area have enough on their plate.

  • cougar posted at 3:33 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230


    On the web it does say that IDFG determined that the tracks were that of dogs or coyotes, not wolves. Which is good for the neighborhood.

    Also on the web it states there has been a number of wolf attacks in Idaho on dogs including the one a couple of years ago in Mullan where a guy named Sadler shot and killed a wolf attacking his dog. Also it stated another wolf chased his daughter on the front porch and into the house.

  • milburnschmidt posted at 2:51 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    007 if you acted on cougars suggestion I hope you washed your hands before returning to the computer. It would seem the wolf supporters have a different source of info I see no mention of a change in the CDA newspaper. Where did you find this update it would certainly be goodnews for the neighbors although a pack of dogs are no different than a pack of wolves to me. I will be the first to quit pummeling if thiis is true but enlighten us please. And Joe I exaggerate my physical condition a bit and Im still active in a boat or my 4 wheeler but a full days workout doesnt take as long as it used. Im probably in better shape than I deserve. But whats in the future?

  • cougar posted at 12:19 pm on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    Excuse me it was 1909 not 1906:

    Mange: Mange is cause by tiny mites that attach themselves to an animal's skin or fur. There are two main types of mange: sarcoptic and demodectic. In sarcoptic mange, the female mites will dig under the animals fur and lay eggs there, and the animal will become very itchy. Sarcoptic mange is probably the most significant ectoparasite of wolves, and is caused by the mite, Sarcoptes scabei. S. scabei is found throughout the world and can live on a variety of host species. In demodectic mange, the mites live in the pores on its host's skin and cause very little itching. Symptoms of mange include skin lesions, fur loss and crusting of the skin. The skin of animals with severe infections may become thickened and gray. Some animals with severe mange may also loose weight. Mange is spread when an animal carrying the parasites comes into direct contact with an uninfected animal, or when an uninfected animal rubs against a surface that an infected animal has directly contacted.
    Mange is most likely an important regulating factor of wolf and coyote populations. Cases of mange in wolf populations increase when wolf densities increase, and the number of surviving pups in a wolf population decreases as the number of wolves with mange increases. Wolves with mange often freeze to death because of the hair loss that occurs with a severe infestation of mites.
    Sarcoptic mange has been used in the past by wildlife "managers" to control wolf populations. In 1909, wolves that were caught and infected with sarcoptic mange were released into Montana, in hopes that the disease would spread to and infect and kill other wolves.

    Apparently research is far above your brain capacity. A normal person would search the internet to research a certain topic. Mange and the Parvovirus are all over web, all you have to do it look. Which is what I would do before showing the Cd'A area how ignorant you are.

    So now you can take your conspiracy theory and shove it.

  • cal007 posted at 11:08 am on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    cal007 Posts: 7

    The "wolf supporters" have read the updated, true story that it was NOT wolves but dogs or coyotes that made the attack. But of course that will be rejected or totally ignored and will continue to be spun as if it were true. Cougar, let's see your proof and documentation of all this injection of diseases and letting them run wild to infect other animals. I thought I had seen about every conspiracy theory out there, this one is a new one...and just as untrue and ridiculous as the other ones. Let's see where you got all that info. Maybe you should just give us the names and dates of who told you this and when and then we'll go confirm it. This whole story should be taken down now since it's not accurate.

  • milburnschmidt posted at 10:51 am on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Good morning gentlemen it looks like the wolf supporters are avoiding this story except for threegen who did a excellent forensic investigation and crime scene investigation from his undisclosed bunker, There is no doubt in my mind he knows what he is talking about and his ignorant hysteria comment was right on the nose. We are fortunate to have deep thinkers and keen minds like his. Obviously the gentlemans daughter who was chased on the porch was having flashbacks from a nightmare after reading Little Red Ridinghood. You know how those Burke road types are no class and not credible. Thank the lord we have (was that 3gen or 3 gins) Wilburn will be able to roam the back yard now and keep his mind on the business at hand without worrying about wolves interrupting his morning chore... Joe old age is great no uncontrollable urges when the school teacher nextdoor cuts the grass in her bikini. You can read old books over and think they are new and best of all when your wife gets mad at you there is no reason to buy her presents to make up if you can cook and manipulate the washing machine.

  • cougar posted at 10:42 am on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230


    I wouldn't fret about it much. I can't speak for Mr. Pres., but I can still hold my own up and down mountains. Can still pack a quarter of elk out of the deepest hole in the Cd'As on my back. If the time comes when I can't, that's when I'll hang up my archery equipment and guns.
    Still have a few years yet.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 8:03 am on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Just busy Bud, workin' in the woods (lookin for Mr Wolfy got a present for him)..

    You guys do frighten me sometimes with the old age stuff, but it's a mighty funny, too, so I guess I shant fear so much. Me, I'll be in SS zone in another 12-15 years or so, when there won't be SS, and they'll ration me out my Cealis....

    "Kill a Wolf Today; Keep a Liberal at Bay"

  • cougar posted at 5:58 am on Sat, Jan 14, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    Mr. Pres. and V.P.

    Welcome back V.P., where'd ya go?
    Mr. Pres.
    I understand what your sayin', we're in the same boat.
    Another sure sign of us elderly is when your takin' a shower in the mornin' , look down and think your gettin' grey hair, take a closer look and all you find is cobwebs, and when the misses thinks sex is what ya put potatoes in.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 10:04 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    OK, President MIlburn & my esteemed colleague, Cougar.
    I have arrived.
    The fun you have had today is wonderful, and I applaud your general constraint in the face of obvious idiotodom.
    Of course, I have no such restrant.
    "3gennative"-OK, so all of us are wrong...what we see kill our animals & steal our childrne aren't wolves, they're dogs, right? And when you chain up a dog, it becomes "bait" for other dogs?

    The drugs you are on are exotic. May we enquire as to origin?
    (especially being that you are "3 generations of native north idahoan" who evidently doesn't hunt.
    So, I guess that dog don't hunt, huh?
    Sounds like the owner.

  • 3GenNative posted at 5:38 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    3GenNative Posts: 202

    It seems in typical Burke Road fashion, the unfortunate Rottweiler was tethered by a chain to a tree. (bait) The prints around the area were not 'Wolf' prints and the 'bites' were likely canine, but not Wolf!
    Stop the ignorant hysteria!

  • milburnschmidt posted at 4:59 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Cougar that was a good one. I just told Mrs Milburn the other night I felt like a newborn baby. She said thats because I take such good care of you. I said no its because I have no hair,no teeth and I think I just wet my pants. I think she will let me and Wilburn back in the house this weekend.

  • carmann posted at 4:32 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    carmann Posts: 28

    When we remove a few thousand wolves and approach the legally required numbers of wolves.....

    Keep dreamin.......

  • Idaho Roper posted at 3:12 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    Idaho Roper Posts: 117

    Just one more example and exposure of the continual lies put forth by wolf supporters. Wolves truly are a threat to domestic animals, even inside the city limits, they are truly a threat to humans both physically and through contractible diseases.

    We can throw these lies in the same garbage heap as their 'self regulation', 'natural balance' lies they try to claim is valid science.

    In a recent conversation with an IDFG commissioner, I was assured that IDFG was going to move forward with serious wolf removal. I will not be holding my breath, but hope they surprise me. I also communicated my opposition to the tag system for wolves, we don't need tags that limit truly successful and driven wolf hunters and trappers, we need to allow them unfettered and unlimited access to do what they do. When we remove a few thousand wolves and approach the legally required numbers of wolves......we will talk tags and seasons. Unfortunately, he was not to supportive of this, which again, gives me pause in considering IDFG serious about this problem.

    Social acceptability of wolf supporters is not of a concern, what we have are scientifically proven and necessary actions that need to begin right now, before this problem becomes even worse, if that is even possible. Social acceptability is nothing more than a PC code word for emotional drivel, and emotional driven is not science nor should it be used to interfere with science.

    I suggest all sportsmen and concerned citizens call IDFG and begin demanding they get a handle on their wolves, do not accept no for an answer. They helped perpetuate this problem and now they need to get out of the way in solving it.

  • cougar posted at 2:43 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    milburnschmidt(The Pres.)

    My wife wants to go with me where ever I go cause I'm so old and ugly she doesn't wanna kiss me goodby.

  • milburnschmidt posted at 2:01 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Thanks BabyDriver when you quit talking about fast cars and fast women and find your conversation limited to prostrate exams and medicare supps and new medical technology then you will be there. Keep a sense of humor and its not so bad.

  • babydriver posted at 1:17 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    babydriver Posts: 1393

    milburnschmidt LOL

    No kidding. I love all you conservative old guys. Getting up there myself. 59

  • milburnschmidt posted at 12:52 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Thanks cougar your support that means more to me than my support hose. Im going to find out which Mac Donalds confused works at and see if he is one of those kids that wears his ballcap at a 90 degree angle.Might have a Macrib if they still gottem. That Dude reference was a dead giveaway. He obviously is not above the age of consent or common sense. I see he posted I thought he was going to work the lunch hour must be off today. He is quite the little tag along isnt he.

  • cougar posted at 12:29 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230


    Well you finally got somethin' right.
    Milburn is the Pres., he's our idol. We'd follow him into the wolf den without question, as long as Wilburn was by his side. What a pair. God Bless You Mr. President......................

  • capnbutch posted at 12:23 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    capnbutch Posts: 729

    This story is absolutely astounding. It ought to be fed to AP and to the networks. It ought to go out immediately!

  • milburnschmidt posted at 12:19 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Thanks Joe Ive got a problem with wilburn we just went for a walk at the Sacajewea center and wilburns cant keep his nose out of a transgender poodle that goes everyday at the same time. Id separate them but the dogs owner is a cuter than a button school teacher who is so sweet and cute it brings tears to your eyes. The only downside is she keeps telling me I remind her of her recently departed great grand father, Girls like her used to melt under my charm and wit when I was younger and now they want to open the door for me or ask if they can carry my groceries out to the car for me when I only have a dozen eggs. Willburn likes elk jerky he can only gum biscuits. BABYDRIVER Whats a paragraph it sounds familiar.

  • CONFUSED posted at 12:10 pm on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    CONFUSED Posts: 67

    I meant medicaid, look up definition, of course after your nurse changes the diaper. If you can remeber back a day, I know it's tough with demntia and all, you'll notice I didn't start taking cheap shots until poked, but that was my fault for stooping to your level.

    Speaking of reminiscing: cougar reminds me of that little dog in those "talkie cartoons" (I used old people talk so you could understanf) that followed the big ugly dog, jumping around all excited like he as about to hump his leg with the least bit of attention shown his way

    The conversation got a little boring with all your....elk population, insult, elk population, some girl on blades fetish, elk populaiton, blah blah blah.

  • cougar posted at 11:42 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    That's why you are the President.
    You un-waivering diplomacy is top shelf. We Salute You Sir.

    P.S. Give Wilburn a biscuit, he needs to leave another confused.

  • babydriver posted at 11:42 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    babydriver Posts: 1393

    'Shoot and Release' is a classic and I will need to remember it.

    On another note: Would you guys learn to make paragraphs? Just hit the 'Enter' key twice.
    My eyes are getting too old and tired for these massive monoparagraphs.

    A .50 cal? No thanks, my .44 mag already wants to jump out of my hand. I have reverted to shooting .44 specials out of it.

    Is my mini 14 big enough for wolves? Where do we meet?

    And leave mary jane out of it. I don't smoke when I shoot and vice versa.

  • milburnschmidt posted at 11:20 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Bruce you are in the right church but the wrong pew. Sit down count to 100 then take your blood pressure. Evil twisted vermin is pretty stong.Fruitcake I like that but there are possibilities for even some supporters. Anni sounded pretty nice. Kathys no problem until she start playing you make me sad games. Even with my anti social attitude . and disrespect for authority you make me sound mainstream and that hurts. Next time write out your letter then delete it and start over. Leave out the parts where you want to burn down their houses,kill their chickens and goats and potty in the well then write a little nicer post. Remember Big sis and homeland security are monitoring these conversations and anything about Govt institutions might trigger the computers.and I dont want the feds snooping around my arsenal. When you talk about worthless pathetic lives you are talking about some of your friends here.

  • YoWhatHuh posted at 10:47 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    YoWhatHuh Posts: 5

    Bruce your incoherent rambling is enough to turn me into a wolf supporter. Not one sentence within your post is grammatically correct and your idea of the F&G is extremely skewed. I imagine you own a gun and that is terrifying IMO. That being said, it was entertaining to read and we all had a good laugh.

  • Sheeken Hunter posted at 10:22 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    Sheeken Hunter Posts: 183

    Why Not--I prefer, and recommend, the S&W 500. If you are going to go, go big(gest).
    Did I miss an earlier story in the Press about the girl being chased onto her porch?

  • milburnschmidt posted at 10:21 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    You dont know how glad we are to let you work and pay into our social security fund and its medicare not medicaid.. I thought you had some potential for conversation but it seems with your welfare and rent cheap shots you are just another lonesome soul hiding behind your computer in a undisclosed location throwing out insults not verified or backed up possibly part of your therapy is to vent on the computers. Making up strawmen and beating them up is a quite common syndrome amoung some folks. We wont miss you confused and perhaps someone with more interesting things to say will take your place. Watch out for little girls talking on cell phones in sport cars as you toddle to work. Joe it looks like we have a lot of work to do today if these second raters like him keep popping up.

  • BruceH59 posted at 10:10 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    BruceH59 Posts: 20

    Thanks to the wolf cult you have to put of with vermin wolves. The debate is over wolves are the worst disaster to our wildlife in the last 100 years. Now they slaughtering dogs right in people yards. Why? That is what wolves do kill and kil and kill until nothing left in the forest then they starve to death. Wolf cultist are evil sick twisted people that spread hate to anyone that doesn't worship wolves. It's time the children with their fairy tale pipedream that wolves balance nature grow up to the documented facts. Wolves must be controlled stop playing games. Enough of this tiny fringe group allowed to ruin our wildlife and rural life. Open season on the useless vermin wolves. Where is the Idaho fish and NO game? Selling out to the animal rights fruitcakes instead of doing their job and getting these mutts under control. IDFG is a disgrace full of anti hunter PETA type. The Governor should fire all the Commissioners and hire some real hunters that are not to afraid to stand up to the tiny fringe wolf cult that has nothing better to do with their worthless pathetic lonely life but worship wolves and spread hate to people.

  • cougar posted at 10:01 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    Well Mr. President,
    Looks like we've had two BM's today. Wilburns and Confused.

  • CONFUSED posted at 9:40 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    CONFUSED Posts: 67

    Wel l gentlemen, like your importance in life, my time here is up. I have a job to back and pay my taxes so you can collect your welfare, social securtiy, medicaid checks. The best part is the wolves will last longer than you, so who wins after all?

  • milburnschmidt posted at 9:33 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Sorry confused it looks like cougar voted no. I printed your comment and gave a copy to wilburn to contemplate and he took it out in the back yard to use during his morning BM . He didnt even read it. Do you have any sisters that rollerblade?

  • cougar posted at 9:15 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    As if anyone is interested in your comments CONFUSED, as they are totally, well let's just say confusing.
    Word of advice:
    Don"t pi$$ Milburn off, he does not like letting Wilburn out of his cage. And if he does............... well lets just say it's not pretty.

  • milburnschmidt posted at 9:08 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    No confused we dropped you and kathy and anni that column is pretty wore out. You remind me of the kid tagging along when we were young wanting to play with the big boys and getting run off. It might appear the unnatural affection works both days although from things I read in the paper constantly I have no idea now what unnatural could be.Maybe you can explain it to us. Come up with something entertaining or worthy of consideration and we might let you in our treehouse iff Joe and cougar vote yes.

  • CONFUSED posted at 8:59 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    CONFUSED Posts: 67

    I see the group of unatural affection has regrouped, how cute. See my comments back at "howling mad"

  • Geee posted at 8:58 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    Geee Posts: 1

    Too close for comfort is all I can say!! Hubby spotted a wolf right by our garage Christmas Eve and we live in town in Mullan. Needless to say with a little snow, he'll be enjoying his varmit call as well!! We live in a beautiful place and can't hardly go for a walk without wondering about the wolves!! Even walking on the bike trail of course you see tracks, hmmmm! Hunters Welcomed!!

  • milburnschmidt posted at 8:31 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Good morning gentlemen this is going to be be like dropping wolf pups in my skeet thrower using magnum loads,CANT MISS. I see you opened without me I was just saying good by to confused inviting him and his support group anni and Kathy to showup in Wallace for this one. I just had my oats and more with a banana and blackberries and as soon as Mrs Milburn finishes with the Loo I will get that out of the way and will monitor the computer today. I got a cabela gift certificate from my son and purchased a foxpro spitfire varmit control and cant wait to make it squeal. This is the problem that most supporters ignore until the wolves start invading the condos where these return to earth worshippers live in and dig up their medicinal marijuana they grow on their balconies they feel they are above these problems. Of course then they would want Govt grants to solve the problems and compensation and grief counselling. I think when the blade babes start rolling again on the beltway we should have a vigil for the first woman we loved and lost and for remingtom peters to come hot with some hot wolf loads .I hope Kathy shows up in wallace if she can get off work and show up in Wallace in the wolf mobile Im sure the folks will be in solidarity with her and give her a proper welcome. Gentlemen the meeting is open.Ready Aim Fire away

  • Conservationist posted at 8:22 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    Conservationist Posts: 2

    JoeIdaho, First off the pro-wolf people are not going to come on here denying it might have been a wolf, nor will they deny the wolves often come after humans. We now have way to much evidence of both to make them look like total and complete fools. However they will attempt to turn this on us anyway by saying we are the interlopers here and not the wolf. How we as human beings should pack up our families, give up our homes which many of us have had for generations and get out of their beloved wolf's territories. I believe in a balance of nature and man has always been the top predator but not anymore. We need to get IDFG off their butts and get some serious wolf management done here. Get them off the Big Game hunting tag list and get a bounty on them before someones kid's get hurt or worse killed. The wolves are so out of control that even if we killed 2000 a season we would still have a wolf problem.

  • cougar posted at 8:12 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    There's two things I would like to see happen:

    1) I would like to see every sportsman in Idaho refuse to buy a hunting/fishing license for (1) year. The financial burden ( if not bankrupting the IDFG) would or should wake them up. It would only take 20% of the resident sportsman to get this accomplished.
    IDFG is a big contributor to this problem(wolves) and now that it's here, they run and hide (Calls made to Idaho Fish and Game official Josh Stanley about the attack weren't returned.) Perfect example.

    2) If you have delved into what eradicated the wolves 100 years ago, it wasn't hunting, trapping or poisons although all of the above was a contributing factor. Disease was the demise of the wolf.
    In 1906, Montana injected 5 wolves and 5 coyotes with the parvo virus and 5 wolves and 5 coyotes with mange and turned them loose. Mission accomplished.
    These two diseases are still out there and starting to do their job again, they just need to be expedited a little bit by humans.
    If you know of a canine that has either one of these diseases and(there are plenty out there) just take it into the mountains and turn it loose. Once again nature will take its course.

    Don't expect any help from IDFG or the Department of the Interior. They are going to sit on their hands once again and refuse to correct the big problem they created.

    If the sportsman of Idaho don't take part in these solutions, then you have no cause to complain when it progressively gets worse, and it will.

  • rollingthunder posted at 8:02 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    rollingthunder Posts: 404

    Practice shoot and release, you get more that way!

  • JoeIdaho posted at 7:34 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Amen, Idahoguy.

  • idahoguy posted at 7:27 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    idahoguy Posts: 932

    I always walk our place and the surround woods with a pistol and rifle. Wolves have been seen here by a doctor vet and others living here. We are on Kootenia county as well. Yotes and wolves both get the same treatment out here. Night and day every day of the year and we do not phone a single person to ask either.

    As a matter of fact a yote attacked a neighbor dog recently and I found some tracks out back a ways. So once again I am setting up the caller and posting the open for business sign. The business end of my rifle that is. I also have little regard for (fun & games) anymore after seeing them ruin our local fishing and supporting wolves, not to mention complicating the hunting regs so bad I just toss.

  • Idaho Spud posted at 7:14 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    Idaho Spud Posts: 40

    I had heard about this from a friend of mine in Wallace. I checked out the Shoshone News Press online edition.. couldnt find any story~ even when searched for it.. Opened up the CDA press and there it was.
    Maybe the Wolf Lady and her husband who were down by the resort in CDA a week or so ago protesting the wolf hunt should read this article.. maybe she would change her tune if it happened to her.

  • queequeg posted at 7:07 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    queequeg Posts: 10

    Shoot and don,t bother to shovel or shut up. Trapping allows one to view the animal in his natural
    habitat and you may dispatch him at your leisure. Poisoning can also be very fulfilling.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:19 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Thank you, Cougar-
    OK, so I'm waiting on the wolf lover idiots to come out of the woodwork to tell us how it couldn't have been a wolf, or how they "NEVER" come after humans.
    The entire city of wallace should all go on an expedition to kill all of them. Poison them, shoot them, eradicate them. They are DANGEROUS in every way, and the best death for them is ANY death. (Hopefully slow & painful).

    Joseph P Idaho, Vice President
    N Idaho Chapter of the Wolf Death League of Environmentalist Hunters

    President Milburn?

  • cougar posted at 5:51 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    cougar Posts: 230

    milburnschmidt(Pres.), JoeIdaho(V.P.), and Wilburn (top secret weapon),

    Wake up, here we go again, your on duty.

  • Why Not posted at 5:44 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    Why Not Posts: 5326

    News finally filters out of the valley that wolf packs are alive and well in the Panhandle National Forest. Local cops have been discussing the problem around Wallace for three years now and it's only getting worse - .45 Auto never go into the forest without.

  • immortal posted at 4:32 am on Fri, Jan 13, 2012.

    immortal Posts: 258

    It isn't just wolves. It's an increase in all wildlife which for some is "cute" but otherwise is anything from annoying to dangerous. F&G needs to reevaluate hunting seasons and bag limits, and I don't even hunt. I've lived here for just the past 40 years but the increase is unbelievable. Turkeys, geese, and more deer than God ever intended. It's completely out of control.

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