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Event will help you be ready for possible disasters

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Posted: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:00 am

COEUR d'ALENE - If a natural disaster were to strike or the economy were to collapse, would you be prepared to survive?

John Mackey might. He is one of the organizers of the Northwest Patriot and Preparedness Rally that will take place over three days in Farragut State Park next weekend.

The event begins Friday from noon to 4 p.m. with a series of educational presentations on how to prepare "bug-out" bags, which are bags of survival supplies in case you have to leave in a hurry. There are classes on how to operate a HAM radio system, or how to start a fire. You can even learn to make your own colloidal silver.

There is a 45-minute lecture on Operation Sleeping Giant, which is an Oathkeeper's preparedness strategy for when disaster strikes and there is an interruption in the convenience services.

Mackey, who is an Oathkeeper himself, said Operation Sleeping Giant is the underpinning of the event.

"It's a four-part strategy to become more self reliant," he said. "In the event of a natural disaster or economic collapse, we believe communities should be self-reliant rather than looking to the government for help."

The first part is about being prepared, the second part is security and getting to know your neighbors.

"It's things like forming a neighborhood block watch and connecting with groups like the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion and the Vietnam Vets," he said.

The third thing is how to re-build the free market system our country was founded on, Mackey said.

"So many people depend on Wal-Mart to be there every day," he said. "We believe in local commerce, such as farmers markets and stuff like that."

He said many of the events will attract doomsday preppers, tea party types, constitutionalists, sustainers and more.

It's the fourth prong of Operation Sleeping Giant that gets a little more controversial.

The fourth is policy related, or you could just call it politics, Mackey said.

"We want to make sure that in the event of disaster, the First, Second, Fourth and 10th amendments remain intact." he said. "Don't get me wrong, it's not like we are downplaying other amendments, but these are the ones that are most subject to discussion in law making.

"We want to able to politically preserve them as best we can."

He said it really boils down to politically keeping the decision making at the lowest level possible, and creating communities that protect themselves.

Mackey points to a recent HBO television special on John Adams, where in the very first scene Adams hears an alarm, so he grabs his bucket and starts running down the street to form a bucket brigade to fight a fire.

"People today rely on the fire department and don't even pay attention to an alarm when they hear it," he said. "We prefer to know how to work at the lowest level possible instead of federalizing everything."

He said the Constitution would never have been approved if the Founding Fathers knew that federal government would be making all the decisions.

The event is designed to have educational seminars during the day, and they plan to hold the controversial political rallies in the evening.

Some of the planned speakers include state Reps. Steve Vick and Vito Barbieri. Former state Rep. Phil Hart, who is currently caught up in a bankruptcy and legal battle with the Internal Revenue Service, is speaking on "Sound Money, What a Concept."

They will also have the founder of the Oathkeepers speaking, someone from the John Birch Society, and Kris Anne Hall will speak on the genealogy of the Constitution.

"We had to figure out a way to combine the patriot movement with the preparedness," Mackey said. "We will also have bluegrass music along with speakers in the evening."

He said no alcohol will be sold and it's not being encouraged either. The organizers are hoping to create a family-friendly environment.

Mackey understands that some may consider the event just a bunch of extremists getting together in the woods, but he added that isn't much different than prior generations who painted the hippie movement with a broad brush back in the '60s..

"We are closely associated with the Tea Party, so we get some of that," he said. "But if you go in and sit down and talk to people, you'll find that most of them are just concerned about the future of our country."

The Northwest Patriots and Preparedness Rally sprung up from the Second Amendment rally the group held in front of Black Sheep earlier this year. More information can be found on the rally under its name on Facebook.

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  • DCIDAHO posted at 10:45 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2988

    I visited the website, I really did not find any quantified patriotism evident. The term that came to my mind was "paranoid sociopathic vigilante". However, isn't it nice that we can have differences in opinions?

  • Why Not posted at 6:05 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 5326

    Lived here twenty-two years Wapiti, but lived through earthquakes, tsunami, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes and once it rained fourteen inches in twenty-four hours, so you might say I know disaster. With all due respect being prepared is smart living, but the odds of Armageddon during your lifetime are remote at best, Powerball anyone?

  • NorIDhunter posted at 4:32 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

    NorIDhunter Posts: 24

    So "us people" are "whacky" but the people who got us into $17+ Trillion of debt are sane? Folks who stand around and cry "Somebody tell me where to go and what to do!" like was reported after Sandy are the ones who are screwed on tight?!? We have no regard for the "the rights of others" while the Admins/Congress/Legislatures are infringing on freedom of speech via the Trespass Act and bypassing the 4h Am with indefinite detention et al; while spying on everyone 24/7 without a warrant, essentially saying that "everyone is guilty until we judge that you're innocent."
    Yet, "we're" the "neo-Nazis"?!? ROFL!

    And before you go assuming that patriots "do not contribute", I was a volunteer EMT w/ Spirit Lake Ambulance for 6 years and currently volunteer in another community based medical org. I'm growing extra food to donate to the local food banks through "Idaho Plant A Row"., I'm an advocate for Northern ID on an online forum that helps people decide if relocation here might be right for them. Care to share what you're doing to help?
    I'm also donating 40+ hours of my time and taking unpaid leave from work to help put this Rally together so that folks, yes like you, can come learn new skills and regain knowledge that has been lost. I invite you to set aside the whiskey bottle and join us for a few hours next weekend. You might just learn something new, and actually get to know your neighbors.

  • Keven Johnson posted at 9:14 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    Keven Johnson Posts: 1490

    DC, if you actually really think this is a "free country" still, there's probably no point in trying to explain any of this to you. But you could start understanding where "Patriots" fit into all this by going to . It is an organization of former and current millitary, police, and fire fighters and their supporters, who as patriots take the oath they took to defend and protect the constitution against all enemies seriously, and will keep that oath if and when the time comes that it's necessary to do so.

  • Sagecreek posted at 8:53 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    Sagecreek Posts: 31

    Look us up on Facebook. @ Northwest Patriot and Preparedness Rally

  • NorIDhunter posted at 7:58 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    NorIDhunter Posts: 24

    How does "patriot" fit into all of this? Because we refuse to accept the negative connotation(s) that the present gov entities and the media try to portray it as. We're taking the word back, and "re-branding it" so to speak, associating "love of country" with preparedness, which is a positive, pro-active effort. DoHS wants you to thinks of patriots as akin to 'terrorists", yet patriots were the ones who set the Country on its course.

    As of Apr 2013, 47,548,694 people depend on SNAP assistance. How can that be a good thing? Would it not be better and show greater love of country, than to not be, or at least less reliant on that EBT card getting loaded up every month? Over a third of the country depends on .gov assistance to survive, with unfunded liabilities of $152.9 TRILLION just 4 short years from now. Where will that money come from?
    Detroit just declared bankruptcy, the "Paris of the West" and the highest per capita income in the US , not that long ago. Stockton, San Bernardino and now the Motor City.
    Can you connect the dots?

    Any one that truly loves this country and what it really stands for,(ie the "patriots") will be de-coupling themselves & becoming more self reliant & self sufficient; rather than be part of the problem that drives it further down the hole.

  • wapiti88 posted at 6:45 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    wapiti88 Posts: 15

    Remember Mt. Saint Helens. After the ash started falling most trucking outfits couldn't deliver groceries to the stores for a while. I-90 was closed. WE had no power for 3-4 days after firestorm. Stuff happens.

  • wapiti88 posted at 6:40 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    wapiti88 Posts: 15

    WHY NOT, must have been just drinking his whiskey all these years or hasn't been in Idaho too long. I have lived here for over 55 yrs and have seen a lot of things happen that being prepared helps make much easier.

  • NorIDhunter posted at 6:20 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    NorIDhunter Posts: 24

    Just 2 short generations ago, there was no such thing as "preparedness", and ther would have been no need for such a "rally". Instead it was called "common sense" and it wasn't what people attended, iy was just what they did. Our grandfolks and great-grandfolks knew that hard times come, most times without much warning.
    The real disasters that we need to be preparing for, are not the alphabet soup acronyms, but the ones that affect us, our neighbors and our communities on a far too real basis. Have you ever lost a job and couldn't find a new one for 6 months or more? What if the breadwinner in the family gets sick or has an accident? Having some food set aside or some maybe some chickens for eggs that one doesn't have to buy, might be a good thing. You think the folks just over the state line in Superior could have used "bug out bags" when they wer ordered to evac just a couple of days ago? Maybe you weren't around for Icestrom when my friends out in the Hoodoo valley were without electricity for a month and half?
    "Stuff" happens!
    But you feel free to sit there with your bottle of Tennessee sippin whiskey. Hope it fills your tummy while the ones who took some precautions have something a little more substantial to keep our bodies and minds going, rebuilding our community while you're in a drunken stupor.

  • Why Not posted at 1:14 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 5326

    Hum, solar flare eh? It would be a very special solar flare to even heat up your camp stove wapiti. CME, that’s another story. It has and likely will again affect terrestrial networks again, maybe even banking, but to what magnitude is hard to say. An EMP event affecting a wide area is highly unlikely. Sure there are crazy people like the sawed off dictator in North Korea. The challenge for any would be EMP bomber is to deliver the goods to the sweet spot over the continental United States. Good luck figuring the odds on that. Natural disaster preparedness, every American has a responsibility to have a plan, alas most don’t. Now scaring people about the end of the world, that’s just utter BS. There are people I know who are hoarding piles of stuff, even getting chickens and goats because they believe the end of days is upon us. Oh P..l..E..A..S..E, if the end is coming do you really need goats and chickens? Seems to me a bottle of Jack Daniels will suffice.

  • DCIDAHO posted at 1:08 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2988

    Hey..It's a free country... and to each, yaddah, yaddah.... However, I can't understand where the "patriot" part fits into all of this.

  • Keven Johnson posted at 1:01 pm on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    Keven Johnson Posts: 1490

    Voxpop ALWAYS spouts off without doing any research; I would have expected no different on this topic. It's a little perplexing how upholding the constitution can be interpreted as a "neo nazi" idea though.

  • wapiti88 posted at 11:41 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    wapiti88 Posts: 15

    Colloidal silver is good against numerous bacteria. Who said anything about drinking it. If the Old Days farmers put a silver spoon in their milk to keep it from spoiling so soon.

  • wapiti88 posted at 11:36 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    wapiti88 Posts: 15

    You need to do research before spouting off. The oathkeepers are not Neo Nazis. They are present and ex military, and law enforcement personnel. They are the ones who take the oath to defend the US Constitution seriously. Look at If more people were prepared for disaster the tax payers would have to do less bailing out after a disaster. Look how well FEMA did with Sandy and Katrina. You should be responsible and smart enough to take care of your self and your family for at least 3-6 months. Solar Flare? EMP? Forest fires just burnt under the transmission lines by Superior, MT. Wake up....

  • Sagecreek posted at 10:40 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    Sagecreek Posts: 31

    Look us up on Facebook. @ Northwest Patriot and Preparedness Rally

  • Sagecreek posted at 9:38 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    Sagecreek Posts: 31

    To find out more about this event, look us up on Facebook.

  • max power posted at 9:04 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    max power Posts: 559

    *** Don't Worry - Be Happy ***

    What could go wrong in this robust thriving economy? Besides, even if something bad were to happen Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi would save us! They could put our "emergency needs" on the 17 trillion dollar National Credit Card...

    "Bernanke could just print more money too" - Jack Hammer

  • JohnAdams posted at 8:22 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    JohnAdams Posts: 6

    There is a fine line between genius and insanity. As the world becomes more chaotic, these so called "crazies" actually start to seem a little smarter each day. In a time of crisis I would rather be friends with these guys vs. hoping that FEMA or some other goverment agency will show up to save us. What does it hurt to just listen and learn a little about becoming just a little more prepared & self-reliant???

  • voxpop posted at 8:05 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    Oh, but the good news is that they'll be easy to spot. They'll all be a nice shade of blue from drinking colloidal silver.

  • voxpop posted at 8:00 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    You can put lipstick on this pig but the bottom line is that these people are essentially whacky ... and ... from whence comes Neo Nazis. Their head is not screwed on tight and they preach self determination without regard for the rights of others. Civilization binds us all together but these people assume they have no need to contribute - and yet they drive cars, live in homes, rely on infrastructure, expect free local medical care, and like indians expect everyone else to pay their bills. Phil Hart is their hero. And all the while they're exactly like the opposite end of the spectrum

  • crustycrowe posted at 6:57 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    crustycrowe Posts: 80

    Oh, and the reds aren't under the bed. They are out in the open, as the DNCs platform essentially mirrors the CPUSAs and the "little yellow man" is now deep in our wallet. But i'm sure they all just want to hold hands and relive the old coke commercial. "I'd like to teach the world to sing , in perfect harmony...
    Ahh, to live in such a safe and friendly world.

  • crustycrowe posted at 6:41 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    crustycrowe Posts: 80

    I love when a debate of ideas starts with "you are a poopy head, therefore your assertions are invalidated". I'm sure two hundred years from now these comment sections will be held up to the works of the founding fathers and plato as proof of the intellectual evolution of man. Prophets need not be prescient, merely observant and people wanting to look to their own protection and preservation need not be a threat to those who abdicate their responsibilities to the state.

  • Why Not posted at 5:20 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 5326

    Reading this piece the first thing that popped into my head, besides Ray Davies Destroyer, was I’ll bet Fill Hart is master of ceremony. No Wait! It's even better yet, Fill, Vito “Hot-Dog” Barbieri and Vick. By now I’m really laughing hysterically and betting Richard Mack will be offering the invocation, no such luck. Oath Keepers and Hippies, come on that’s farfetched and as an old hippie I take exception with the analogy.

  • Why Not posted at 5:12 am on Sat, Jul 20, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 5326

    Cause there's a red, under my bed - And there's a little yellow man in my head - And there's a true blue inside of me- That keeps stoppin me, touchin ya, watchin ya, lovin ya….Paranoia, the destroyer. Paranoia, the destroyer. Hum, why has Ray Davies invaded my head?

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