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Posted: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:54 am

COEUR d’ALENE — The Kootenai County Reagan Republicans say they have retained an attorney and have begun raising money to prepare for a legal fight to protect their brand name.

Ron Lahr of the Reagan Republicans said Thursday the money is being raised through the group’s political action committee, the KCRR Victory Fund.

In its newsletter this week, the group asked for money from its members.

“If you are against dirty politics, please donate to the KCRR Victory Fund,” the letter said.

Lahr said the group’s attorney, James Bendell, has determined the past use is well established and future use may continue unchanged.

“The prior use of the name and logo for three years means we can keep using it,” Lahr said. “They were just trying to scare us with the cease and desist letter.”

A newer group has registered the Kootenai County Reagan Republicans name with the Idaho Secretary of State. That group now claims sole ownership and rights.

In early May, Lahr and fellow Reagan Republicans leader Jeff Ward were served with a letter from an attorney representing the other group, informing them somebody else has the rights to the name, having registered it as a business name. The attorney, Scott L. Poorman, of Hayden, ordered Lahr and Ward to stop using the name.

While the attempted name grab has failed so far, the group is still fighting.

Lahr said the other group could cause problems during elections as candidates are endorsed by the two different Reagan Republicans groups.

“It would just cause confusion in the minds of voters,” he said.

He said Bendell is researching exactly what the original Kootenai County Reagan Republicans need to accomplish in court. Once Lahr and Ward’s group gets the appropriate finding or ruling from a court, that can be brought to the Secretary of State to try and decertify the newer group’s filings.

A leader of the newer group, former Idaho state Rep. Jeff Alltus, said Thursday his group, which he estimated to be 25 to 30 people at its core, believed Lahr and Ward’s group “abused” the name.

“We plan on continuing to use the Kootenai County Reagan Republicans name, since it’s ours,” Alltus said. “They were using the name in vain. It sort of ticked a bunch of us off.”

Lahr has called the efforts by Alltus and others in the newer group “identity theft.”

Alltus said they’ve had some meetings, and plan to have more, including some when candidates may come and speak.

“It’s our name, so it’s a done deal,” Alltus said. “There’s no need to go to court.”

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13 comments:

  • Jan C posted at 5:16 pm on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.

    Jan C Posts: 72

    Keven, KCRR had the right to choose their own preferred name for the group and did so at least 4 years ago...maybe longer.

    You state: "All one has to do is to look at the candidates this group supported in the May primary - - without exception they were the establishment / status quo "republicans" who believe the government should be involved in every aspect of our lives,..."

    ~ paying special attention to your words "without exception", let's look at some of the candidates this group endorsed...Bob Nonini - The guy with the MOST conservative voting record in the state of Idaho (God Bless him); Raul Labrador and Steve Vick - the choices of all the local political groups. They didn't endorse Phil Hart...are you sure that isn't what this is about for you?

    Regardless, this is getting off track of the issue...this group could have believed they were voting for the ghost of Ronald Reagan - or anyone they wanted to; no one had the right to take their name. Kissinger? Rockefeller? It isn't for you or anyone else to decide what they should have named their group...The strict Constitutionalist you claim to be, surely you get that??

     
  • Keven Johnson posted at 6:20 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    Keven Johnson Posts: 1276

    Jan C, perhaps it is a broad statement, and perhaps there are individual exceptions, but it is certainly not unfounded. All one has to do is to look at the candidates this group supported in the May primary - - without exception they were the establishment / status quo "republicans" who believe the government should be involved in every aspect of our lives, over the liberty minded, constitution supporting republicans who wanted to return government to its proper role of protecting our lives, liberty, and property and otherwise leaving us alone to live our lives as we see fit. Ronald Reagan was not part of the establishment and was in fact derided by the so called 'moderates' in his day. In the interest of truth in labeling, they should call themselves the "Nelson Rockefeller Republicans" or the "Henry Kissinger Republicans". I'm sure nobody would object to either of those names and either name would more accurately reflect the political philosophy of this group.

     
  • Jan C posted at 11:36 pm on Sat, Jul 28, 2012.

    Jan C Posts: 72

    Keven Johnson: How can you make such a broad, unfounded statement about how individual members of a group believe? I am quite certain there is not a one of them that look at President Reagan as a "simpleton, a trigger happy cowboy..." One can certainly tell which group you must belong!

    By the way, they are not "formerly known" as the Reagan Republicans...but still have rights to that name.

    This whole thing is absolutely unbelievable; that there are those that would defend an action like Alltus did is inexcusable....that you all think you can say what those members believe... and you somehow have better understanding....????

     
  • Keven Johnson posted at 8:07 pm on Sat, Jul 28, 2012.

    Keven Johnson Posts: 1276

    The members of the group formerly known as the "Reagan Republicans" are mostly status quo, establishment, middle of the road republicans - - in other words the kind of republicans who dismissed Reagan as "unelectable" , a simpleton, and a trigger happy cowboy who couldn't be trusted to deal with the leader of the Soviet Union, and who would start WWIII if elected - - all of which of course was completely wrong. Doesn't anyone else see the irony of such a group using the name of Ronald Reagan for political gain?

     
  • SamuelStanding posted at 12:41 am on Sat, Jul 28, 2012.

    SamuelStanding Posts: 483

    The political parties of today should ALL be ashamed of themselves.

    "If you are against dirty politics" Who isn't! But the smear campaings are all the current politicians know!

    To quote the late/great Andy Rooney, " I would never want to be called either a Republican or a Democrat, yet I have voted more as a democrat..." The Tea Baggers seem to me, to only complain and not strive to be a public servant. It is "Entitlement" for these folks, we are entitled because the Constitution says so, but we do not want anyone else to be entitled, that's just socialism.

    I do have to say I agree with much of what Bionic man says, regarding current Republican Mitt Romney and his audacity in the Olmpics and the British setup for the games. Who on earth bashes another country when they hope to become a political leader of another, powerful nation. STUPIDITY! ARROGANCE! This is EXACTLY why America is so disliked. Romeny sets to hurt foreign realations regardless of gaining control over the office of the President of the United States. God help us all if we get another arrogant snob in office!


     
  • Jan C posted at 7:37 pm on Fri, Jul 27, 2012.

    Jan C Posts: 72

    Mr. Wherley, I'm afrraid that is only YOUR opinion that they are not in-line with Reagan's policies and beliefs. It is my opinion that they are. I followed closely those they endorsed in the primaries and what their platform is. Though I am not a member of their group, I will be now.

    I am glad to see you say Mr. Alltus was wrong; this isn't something he should get away with. I hope he chooses to apologize.

    The Republican Party in this area needs to strive for unity at this time. It has been shameful. But yes, the Republican Party nationally needs to get back to their roots...the national division is again preventing that from happening.

     
  • COG777 posted at 7:35 pm on Fri, Jul 27, 2012.

    COG777 Posts: 338

    Whether or not Mr. Alltus agrees with the real Reagan Republicans is aside from the point. Attempting to take an established name just shows a complete lack of moral character. Ever hear of unjust enrichment? There very well may be an actionable tort that has been committed by Mr. Alltus and may have put his own personal finances at risk.

     
  • Jeffrey Wherley posted at 7:34 pm on Fri, Jul 27, 2012.

    Jeffrey Wherley Posts: 3969

    Great comment Jan

     
  • Jeffrey Wherley posted at 7:00 pm on Fri, Jul 27, 2012.

    Jeffrey Wherley Posts: 3969

    Although Mr. Alltus is correct that the KCRR is just a branch of the RNC beliefs which is counter to what Reagan tried to do in bringing the Republican Party back to, it's Lincolnian foundation of Federalism and limited government.
    Lincoln started this republican party founded in the Declaration of Independence’s words that “all men are created equal,” equal not in all characteristics or results, but equal in rights, namely the right of self-government, to “do as he pleases with all which is exclusively his own.”
    But Mr. Alltus was wrong to assume the name of an established organization instead of trying to change it's foundation through debate and/or internal activism. I find what they have done as wrong as the direction the KCRR and RNC have done to the Republican Party. Alltus is trying to take by standing law what was never his and was Exclusively owned by a group of well minded but wrongheaded people. Even though law is on the side of Mr. Alltus his beliefs, Lincolnian Conservatism, he is trying to fight for are against his actions. he should be ashamed of himself.

    I almost joined the KCRR until I found their core beliefs were not inline with Reagan or Lincoln, But as they are a republican party group with similar broader beliefs, I would never be in favor of this type of deceptive maneuvering. I hope Mr. Ward and Mr. Lahr end this fraud perpetrated by Mr Alltus.

     
  • Jan C posted at 6:48 pm on Fri, Jul 27, 2012.

    Jan C Posts: 72

    This is one of the lowest antics I believe I have ever seen in local politics. Jeff Altus and his cronies should step up to the plate and apologize to the true Reagan Republicans that organized several years ago. "Abused the name"??? Like that gives someone else the right to take it? Ronald Reagan would be turning in his grave at this kind of DIVISIVE behavior in our party. Maybe we can get the names of that 25 -30 in the "new group"...none of them should ever get any of our votes in future local elections...and I read that this "identity theft" took place only a few days after Mr. Altus offered prayer at an event hoping to unite Republicans....Mr. Altus, shame on you! You have some 'splainin' to do....and then maybe move on to the party that you REALLY believe in.

    Thank you for reporting this CDA Press. I don't believe it got enough attention at the time it happened. I guess we can give that credit to the real Reagan Republicans for the classy way in which they have handled this. So now, who has really abused President Reagan's name???

     
  • bionic man posted at 5:50 pm on Fri, Jul 27, 2012.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    All I can say, after Romney's attack on the Olympics, I'd be ashamed to call myself a republican. Besides, it took clinton 8 years to get the country back in the black, less than 4 years for the repubs to tear it down and another 4 years to multiply the debt 3 fold over. God forbid if we hve another republican in office

     
  • ancientemplar posted at 4:57 pm on Fri, Jul 27, 2012.

    ancientemplar Posts: 1146

    Who'd hire these guys? They can't even get their own paperwork right.

     
  • Good_Ole_Mitt_Romney posted at 2:56 pm on Fri, Jul 27, 2012.

    Good_Ole_Mitt_Romney Posts: 148

    What's in a name? If it was from a senile bad actor President. Who cares about them.

     
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