Cd'A sets aside $20.2M for McEuen - Coeur d'Alene Press: Local News

Cd'A sets aside $20.2M for McEuen

Figure includes contingency costs, design contracts, engineering fees

Print
Font Size:
Default font size
Larger font size

Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:00 am

COEUR d'ALENE - Twenty point two, all in.

While Contractors Northwest Inc. will begin construction on the McEuen Field project this week after landing the $14.8 million bid, the city of Coeur d'Alene has budgeted the project to cost $20.2 million when all is said and done.

The $20 million figure includes every expected expense for the project over two fiscal years, including savings the city is setting aside as contingency costs, design contracts and architectural and engineering fees.

What accounts for the roughly $5.4 million difference between the reserved cash and winning contract bid?

The city has slotted around $1 million to pay for equipment for the park. Splash pad equipment, park benches, garbage cans and the like aren't the contractor's responsibility, but the city's. The $1.9 million contract with the park's designers, Team McEuen, is included in that total, as is the $1.2 million contract for the east end parking lot work that has already been completed. Around $75,000 will go toward building fees, and $845,000 to front the Local Improvement District sum for Front Avenue property owners before they pay into the LID.

Two weeks ago, CNI won the $14.8 million bid to construct the downtown park.

More about

More about

More about

  • Discuss

Welcome to the discussion.

85 comments:

  • guy fawkes posted at 7:30 pm on Sat, Mar 23, 2013.

    guy fawkes Posts: 18

    Wow. Who would've guessed, they lied again. Come on, raise your pitchforks. States like New York and California allow this to happen to them. This is what use to make CDA different. You people that voted for this nonsense are acting like there's fluoride in your drinking water. Well guess what, we're one of the last bastions of clean drinking water so that's no excuse. Get rid of the Mayor and the other 3. We need some fresh perspective this go around. Vote in November or you have no say on this site or any other.

     
  • j2 posted at 1:08 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    Thank you for making this point but the park is the priority of Hagadon et al. so other city needs will be neglected.
    Higher taxes will of course fix everything.

     
  • j2 posted at 12:56 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    To Humanist:
    Why are you so concerned about who owns and operates what businesses?
    Is it a subtle threat? Or do you irrationally believe that only business owners in the LCDC area are paying the taxes raised to pay for the park renovation therefore only they should have a say in this matter?
    To set you straight the taxes paid are collected just as they would be for anyone doing commerce or owning private property within the city. The only difference is that the taxes being collected within the LCDC boundary presently (and into the near future) are being appropriated to a special interest group promoting the area encompassing said LCDC boundary.
    That stated it is also established that taxes outside the LCDC boundary are HIGHER due the taxes that would normally be going into the general fund are being siphoned off by the LCDC.
    You and others like you that try to obfuscate this simple fact (and any other that may run counter to your intentions) are what make most people distrust this entire process regardless of their position on the McEuen Park renovation.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 12:40 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    babydriver,

    Go to the county website as Wolfeyes has pointed out and you will see that the URD's affect everyone in the county as well.

     
  • babydriver posted at 12:28 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    babydriver Posts: 1393

    So happy to be in Dalton Gardens.

     
  • j2 posted at 11:07 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    straightup:
    No need to be confused... it is all city tax money no matter how the shell game is played. The city tax payers are paying for this park regardless of the the percentages paid by any one group.

     
  • Humanist posted at 10:08 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    I'd love to hop on to the County tax assessment web site and look at how your taxes have changed over time.

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 9:42 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Rationale's 12:15 a.m. Wed post is "right on".

    Notice how the liars sweep their dishonesty under the rug! From $14 million to $20 million in two weeks...but it's no big deal to them After all, they don't mind spending others' money.

    This is a very important observation by Rationale. The City of Coeur d'Alene City Hall will only give you a tiny view of the entire story/picture as to not ruffle the feathers of our community. They are self-interest driven politicians that need to be removed from office.

     
  • Wolfeyes posted at 9:41 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Wolfeyes Posts: 79

    Go to the county website and you will see an example of how URDS applied to LCDC actually take away tax dollars away from the city and the taxpayers. As a result, each and every homeowner shares the burden of increased property taxes as a result of this ponzi scheme. I just need to shake my head at the city's incompetence for financial matters. They knew that the waste water treatment expense was looming. So if you have 20 Million for a park to be used by visitors, why then did you not use that 20 million to offset the waste water treatment expense? Then we have the new Pac. Just another name for the anti-recall group. The elite control this town and we need to do something about it and soon. This is not a partisan issue, but everyone issue. We have an incompetent team of 4 that run this city. They think it is their money. Who cares about the every day Joe, he is just a worker bee tryng to make a living, when you have the kings and queens of CDA running this city. Camelot this is not, more like a stench from the waste water system.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 8:59 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    What does that have to do with being shafted out of tax dollars?

     
  • Humanist posted at 8:03 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    @concernedcitizen: You mentioned below that you had businesses in town,. What are those businesses?

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 6:20 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    There is NO money saved. It is ALL based of future tax revenue. Please tell us how much is sitting in an account as we debate. timeless, you lye as the rest. You are beginning to sound like ole jonny "The Spinmaster" austen himself.

     
  • Rationale posted at 12:15 am on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    Notice how the liars sweep their dishonesty under the rug!

    From $14 million to $20 million in two weeks...but it's no big deal to them After all, they don't mind spending others' money.

    True justice would be for all of the dishonest leaders and their lying sycophant supporters here to become permanently unemployed and left scraping for bread crumbs. Then maybe they'd learn the value of a dollar...and the value of honesty!

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 8:17 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    The libs, timeless, etc, are ALWASY FOR spending money, taxpayer money; that we don't HAVE. It doesn't matter at all that we don't have it, only that we SPEND IT. It also doesn't matter what the public WANTS, as liberals they are always more knowledgable about what we NEED, and that's obviously more important.

    Just LOOK what they did for California & Europe.

    And pray that they'll all go back....

     
  • straight up posted at 8:04 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    straight up Posts: 963

    I'm confused.

    Can somebody please break out in detail the LCDC portion of the 20 million?
    because as we've been told over and over that is not tax money or even real money, so this project really should be costing the taxpayers way under 20 million dollars.

    Once we see that modified number, we can all put our support behind the park project - right?

     
  • efromm posted at 7:59 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    efromm Posts: 689

    Money they saved? Did you all see that in the article. How can they save money? The only way to do that is to tax you all too much. The fleecing continues.

     
  • j2 posted at 7:44 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    My only roadblock is simply the destruction of the boat launch and the similar destruction (or willful disregard) of the agreement to build similar or better facilities. The launch is an excellent asset and allows those who can't afford a boat slip or those visiting the city easy access to the lake. Higgins and other launches are already over stressed and cannot handle the diverted traffic from the 3rd street launch.

     
  • Timeless posted at 6:44 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    I'm 1/2 right and you are 1/2 wrong. The Resort Plaza is included in the Lakes Dist. So, what's your next roadblock?

     
  • Timeless posted at 6:38 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    I have said before, as well, I do not own or have any connection to a downtown business or adjacent properties, etc, etc, ect.
    I do not work for the City and never have. GOT IT?
    I actually think that I am more of a concerned citizen than Concerned citizen is, however.

     
  • j2 posted at 6:37 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    Timeless: I guess I'm only almost perfect unlike you.

    However that being stated. None of what I have stated here is wrong.

    Please check LCDC map of the area in the district boundary.. Here is the link:

    http://lcdc.org/districts/lake-district/

     
  • j2 posted at 6:36 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    Timeless: I guess I'm only almost perfect unlike you.

    However that being stated. None of what I have stated here is wrong.

    Please check LCDC map of the area in the district boundary.. Here is the link:

    http://lcdc.org/districts/lake-district/

     
  • Humanist posted at 6:34 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    Quote j2: "However this doesn't change the fact that without the LCDC all this tax money would be collected by the city used for all city wide projects not just a select small area of the city. .. and your arguement that without the LCDC the downtown core would dry up and never see any appreciation in the tax base is absurd."

    I never said that anything would dry up. Just that it would have remained status quo. Sure, SOME development would have occurred, but not nearly to the level that has occurred due to the existence of the district. Ultimately, the long term tax revenue benefit to the city once the district closes is going to be far greater than the tax revenue gains had "normal" development occurred during that same time period.

     
  • j2 posted at 6:30 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    TO Humanist:

    Yes it is true that the base taxes are still sent to the city coffers and any "appreciation " taxes are collected by the LCDC.
    However this doesn't change the fact that without the LCDC all this tax money would be collected by the city used for all city wide projects not just a select small area of the city. .. and your arguement that without the LCDC the downtown core would dry up and never see any appreciation in the tax base is absurd.
    Personally, I would much rather see a parking garage built between 3rd and 4th (being worked I know but this kind of project is more in line with LCDC than a park) instead of a major park renovation however I am sure it be nice park that will reflect positively on the city when completed.

    To Timeless:

    You are worng and certainly not a rumor... The CDA Resort is NOT included in the LCDC. Please check the boundary map of the LCDC and you can see for yourself, thats called doing some basic homework.
    As for the boat launch, as I understand the plans, it will have parking initially and as the park redesign progresses this parking will be eliminated so anyone wishing to use the launch will need to walk from the new east side parking lot.

     
  • Timeless posted at 6:29 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    J2: I did, you made another error.

     
  • j2 posted at 6:28 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    likely the as without...

     
  • j2 posted at 6:28 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    likely the as without...

     
  • j2 posted at 6:26 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    Timeless: You only enter each response once.


     
  • j2 posted at 6:25 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    Timeless: You only enter each response once.

     
  • cd1013 posted at 6:23 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    cd1013 Posts: 200

    It's been awhile since I've posted and now with this new inflated "set aside" number I have but one question. Who was fool enough to believe what can now only be described as lies from the mouths of the fraudulent four? We all knew what the original price tag was. I really don't know how anyone can sincerely be "rah-rah" about this. What will really be a surprise is if the price actually stops at 20 million dollars. Time will tell.

     
  • Timeless posted at 6:18 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    A shill? Hahahaha ha Really? What are you 110 ?
    Where is your downtown business?

     
  • Timeless posted at 6:07 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    Concerned:
    Thanks to Humanist... Here is the truth:

    Found it:
    http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/Riverfront-Park-to-get-much-needed-facelift/-/101214/19369932/-/xuajpe/-/index.html
    What may be going to a vote is a BOND issue for the voters to approve whether they want their taxes to go up to pay for it or not. That wasn't needed in the case of McEuen since the funding is coming from the already established LCDC district. The Spokane vote would be for a very different reason than the vote desired for McEuen by some.
    Log In to report. Link

     
  • j2 posted at 6:02 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    Amen concerned citezen.
    Timeless Humanist are most certainly shills for Team McEuen, perhaps the now paid shill.

     
  • j2 posted at 5:59 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    TO Humanist:

    Yes it is true that the base taxes are still sent to the city coffers and any "appreciation " taxes are collected by the LCDC.
    However this doesn't change the fact that without the LCDC all this tax money would be collected by the city used for all city wide projects not just a select small area of the city. .. and your arguement that without the LCDC the downtown core would dry up and never see any appreciation in the tax base is absurd.
    Personally, I would much rather see a parking garage built between 3rd and 4th (being worked I know but this kind of project is more in line with LCDC than a park) instead of a major park renovation however I am sure it be nice park that will reflect positively on the city when completed.

    To Timeless:

    You are worng and certainly not a rumor... The CDA Resort is NOT included in the LCDC. Please check the boundary map of the LCDC and you can see for yourself, thats called doing some basic homework.
    As for the boat launch, as I understand the plans, it will have parking initially and as the park redesign progresses this parking will be eliminated so anyone wishing to use the launch will need to walk from the new east side parking lot.

     
  • Humanist posted at 5:18 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    Found it:

    http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/Riverfront-Park-to-get-much-needed-facelift/-/101214/19369932/-/xuajpe/-/index.html

    What may be going to a vote is a BOND issue for the voters to approve whether they want their taxes to go up to pay for it or not. That wasn't needed in the case of McEuen since the funding is coming from the already established LCDC district. The Spokane vote would be for a very different reason than the vote desired for McEuen by some.

     
  • Humanist posted at 5:00 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    I did Google it. What news station was it on?

     
  • Humanist posted at 4:59 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    What are your businesses? And, how have your property values fared since the establishment of the UR district?

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 4:44 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    timeless, humanist and wheel1

    Most are NOT against the park itself. It is the way they keep lying to us about cost and plan. Please visit my businesses in town. I can make a killing off of you since you are ok with an ever changing cost and plan. ;)

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 4:38 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Actually Humanist I DO own in a UR district and they are gambling with OUR tax dollars in hope that property values go up. All it does is drive out those that cannot afford the higher taxes due to the increase around them.

    Yes timeless, you better check again. Spokane city council is giving the taxpayers a vote on Riverfront Park. It is YOU that is spreading lies just like the liars in our local government.

     
  • arius1 posted at 4:23 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    arius1 Posts: 893

    Yes, On my DVR for last nights news. You could probably google it as well.

     
  • Humanist posted at 3:46 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    Do you have a reference for that arius1?

     
  • arius1 posted at 3:31 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    arius1 Posts: 893

    Geez Timeless, wasn't trying to upset you. May be you didn't see the same news report that concerned citizen and I saw. But just to be sure I double checked and yes the Spokane City council will put the money needed for the upgrades to a public vote. So, now I hope that does tick you off.

     
  • Humanist posted at 3:25 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    I will state for the record, yet again, that I have no financial connection to any of this. None. I am simply a citizen of Coeur d'Alene.

    And regarding the boycott of the Bloems business: remember what happened when the recall attempt was made? Remember how divisive that was in this community? Do you really think that would serve to be productive for anybody - especially your side?

     
  • Humanist posted at 3:21 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    Quote J2: "The money the LCDC collects would instead being going into the public coffers for city wide projects "

    Wrong. The additional taxes would not exist without were it not for the formation of and reinvestment by the district. The base taxes established when the district was first formed STILL goes to the city for city wide projects. The taxes beyond that due to the improvements go back to the district for further reinvestment until the life of the district is over. And when it's over, then the city gets ALL of the tax revenue including that due to the improvements that would not have existed without the district. In the end, the city will be far better off with the district improvements, including the McEuen improvements, then it would have been without the district.

     
  • Timeless posted at 2:58 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    Arius 1: that's funny, the news report I heard was that the Spokane Council was going to listen to Public ideas and input. They did not say that is was being put to a vote!! Nice try, keep misinforming anyone who may read this garbage.

     
  • Timeless posted at 2:52 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    J2:
    Wrong J2, do your homework before spreading rumors.
    The Resort IS included in the Lake District from where the taxes come.
    There IS boat and trailer parking close to the ramp.

     
  • arius1 posted at 2:29 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    arius1 Posts: 893

    Yes I saw that the Spokane City council saw what was happening here, and decided it best that the taxpayers vote on whether to fund the Riverfront Park upgrades. Wow what a concept ! I'm a thinkin they want to keep their jobs come next election.

     
  • j2 posted at 2:02 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    j2 Posts: 52

    Actually they ARE your taxes - please do some basic homework. The money the LCDC collects would instead being going into the public coffers for city wide projects intead of the small area of downtown.
    Incidently I've found it ironic that the CDA Resort is not part of the LCDC but will be one of the biggest benifactors of the new park.
    Additionally the biggest lie is that replacement facilities are supposed to be the same quality or better. How is forcing users of the boat launch to park a vehicle and trailer roughly one quarter mile away from the boat launch the same or better?

     
  • bionic man posted at 1:27 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    Realize, as long as we have people like timeless, humanist, etc. ( who are probably the elitists working on and benefiting from taxpayer money ) there will always be the "GREED" projects so they can support their retirement. Those people have no morals what so ever. Time takes it's toll on us all and hopefully it will reward them all with what they deserve. The benefits of MC RUIN park will show it's stature in the years to come. And come November, the Fab 4 will be out.

    Remember people, the boycott of BLO-EMS business will be scheduled in June. Get your signs ready for the protest. Further details to follow.

     
  • CClavin posted at 11:25 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    CClavin Posts: 221

    There is no doubt that the community has been lied to by the Team Kennedy-Bloem. First they were not going to spend over 13 million, then voted on 14.8 million, and now it is 20.2 million. Was that on a vote or does that go tonight. I also suggest to the City Council who ever failed to figure in garbage cans, and park benches into the budget for the park should be fired on the spot. Is that you Mr. Eastwood?????? or I guess you can retire on you $106,000 year salary. COME ON CITY COUNCIL quit taking advantage of your positions!!!!!!!!

     
  • Humanist posted at 11:05 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    I'm a taxpayer too, CC. And I am fine with it. (actually, odds are that neither of us live in the LCDC Lake District so it really isn't our taxes). The fact is that our leaders "can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time". You happen to be on the displeased end of things right now. But that in itself does not make the process any less valid.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 10:21 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    How many of you have noticed the proposed plan to fix up Riverfront Park in Spokane? The new has been saying that it is going to be PUT TO A VOTE!

    Humanist, wheels1 and timeless do not care that it is TAXPAYERS funds. A win is a win. eh?

     
  • Timeless posted at 10:21 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    Humorist, you took the words right out of my mouth.

     
  • Rationale posted at 9:59 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    This is vile! So Phase 1 goes from $14 million to $20.2 million...heck two weeks ago it was $14.8 million.

    The local leaders, and all those on this thread who blindly support this, are all a bunch of filthy disgusting liars. And if the CDA Press removes this comment, they are complicit.

    The project isn't the problem, it's the LIES. And all you who support the leaders just prove that you have absolutely no integrity! You cannot be trusted...I feel sorry for anybody who knows you, because you will obviously sell them out.

    The leaders and their sycophants here should be responsible to cover everything above the original $14 million out of their own pockets!

     
  • ProIdaho posted at 9:53 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    ProIdaho Posts: 260

    Humanist,
    The only "tweaking" that Team McEuen and the four council supporters did was to pull a shell game on us.
    1. structure all the public meetings so the Council members that vote on the park project never actually answer any direct questions(the woodland middle school meeting).
    2. After the mid-term council election that saw all three seats go overwhelmingly to anti-McEuen supporters, the remaining just doubled down on getting it done ASAP
    3. "Reduce the cost of the park"........until it is approved......then reinstate alot of the same things they took out.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 9:38 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    And keep in mind that a lot of this $$$ is borrowed, leveraged by the LCDC against future property tax income. So, not only are the property taxes paid today NOT being used for civic support (police, fire, etc...) tomorrows taxes are already spent as well. That means that property tax assessments on properties outside of the LCDC but within city limits will increase. Somebody has to pay the sumptuous salaries for all the employees that serve the LCDC arena whilst their taxes are being used as a private investment bank for the Mayor. And since the Mayor wants her 'playland' park other needed civic projects like upgrading sewer treatment plant require even more borrowing. And none of this extravagance is going for the people of CdA. It is all focused on pleasing outsiders, enticing their $$$ to be spent where our Mayor offers her wares. What a coincidence?

     
  • Humanist posted at 9:18 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    Our "voice" was heard by voting them in in the first place and trusting them to make good decisions for our community. Followed by countless public meetings and tweaking of the McEuen plans according to that public comment. Just because you didn't have a "voice" the specific way that you wanted it does not mean that they have not been good representatives of our community.

    It only means that you did not get your way.

     
  • Timeless posted at 9:09 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    LT Realtor: you have got to be kidding me. Adams can't even express himself without reading script given to him by his handlers.
    He doesn't represent me, thank goodness
    Done here.... Time to go hike Tubbs. Seeee ya!

     
  • Mary Souza posted at 9:03 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Mary Souza Posts: 808

    There will be four seats up for election this coming November: Mayor Bloem's, Mike Kennedy's, Deanna Goodlander's and Woody McEvers'.

    Each of the above voted AGAINST a public vote on McEuen, even a non-binding Public Advisory Vote. They did not want you to have a voice.

     
  • Humanist posted at 8:59 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    You wouldn't possibly be condoning and encouraging vandalism now would you Rev?

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 8:40 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    I support Councilman Adams because he stands firm for the whole community and does NOT VOTE to enrich his pockets.

    I support honesty and working in the best interests of every citizen.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 8:38 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Millions slated for projects that are not needed and not really wanted and not easily paid for. And not one penny for the Lake City Senior Center. Seriously can these people be any more heartless and despicable?

     
  • Timeless posted at 8:33 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    Start and end with Steve Adams.

     
  • Humanist posted at 8:30 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3166

    What a great investment in our community for now and into the future! Kudos to our mayor and council for seeing this through while special interest groups attempt to stop any sort of progress. It's great to see the construction resuming and my family and I are looking forward to using what is certain to be a great park and we are proud to be a part of a community with such great leadership and vision!

    We know that the negative CAVE'rs will be fighting tooth and nail to completely derail anything positive in this community so w need to ensure that our greater numbers are represented at our polling places this November. Let's keep Coeur d'Alene positive.

     
  • boohoo2U posted at 8:24 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    TAGGERS...don your hoodies, start your creative engines.
    Give the snobs across the street something to be proud of.

     
  • oatster posted at 8:22 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    oatster Posts: 34

    LTRLTR, you forgot steve adams

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 8:20 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Timeless: You attack people for what you call complaining and then complain! Your words have no value if that is what you stand on just like our current politicians.

     
  • oatster posted at 8:20 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    oatster Posts: 34

    what we have here is " good old boy city council"....

     
  • boohoo2U posted at 8:13 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    no kidding - same team gouged sd271 for $750K for unauthorized, unusable plans.

     
  • Timeless posted at 8:10 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    Longtime Realtor: I stand by my words.

     
  • oatster posted at 8:00 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    oatster Posts: 34

    all i see is an improved park for the homeless bums of kootenai county to hang out in....what a waste of tax payer money!they could have set aside a little money to fix the jacked-up side walks in down town.

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 7:58 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Campaign to remove Mayor Bloem, Council Members Kennedy, Goodlander, and McEvers from office later this year.

    Talk to your neighbors, friends and relatives and encourage them to vote or run for office.

    We need to change this tide wave of public servants making thier self-interests their only priority!

    Mayor Bloem, Councilman Kennedy and Goodlander are self seeking and Councilman McEvers doesn't want to disagree with those in power for they may stop eating his panscakes.

     
  • The Simple Truth posted at 7:54 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    that's what you say about just pretty much everything, though, so it's kind of hard to take you seriously - have you ever found something you actually like?

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 7:48 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Below are comments from Timeless who comes here to belittle:

    your type never runs for Public Office, you are too busy tearing down those who do!

    Get a new vocabulary..........attack dogs, deflect, public vote, November......it is all just so boring. Yawn

    Sour grapes from a sour grape.

    Get outside, get a life.

     
  • Justin Cottrell posted at 7:28 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Justin Cottrell Posts: 157

    Hurrah! Hurrah! The illustrious Queen Sandi, and her court of jesters, lap dogs, and groupies have bestowed this wonderful gift upon the citizens of Coeur d'Alene. But alas this is no ordinary gift, but one that continues to grow bigger as time goes by, as it's revealed the previous price(s) didn't include certain amenities a park should have. All hail Queen Sandi for her used-car salesman like brilliance to snooker the voters of this wonderful town one more time.

    Queen Sandi to the public, "Kind serfs, I have given you this park to use as your own. But I will need to rob, err, I mean kindly ask for more of your money. You see the previous amount I stole, I mean asked for didn't include simple thinks such as park benches or waste receptacles. Oh silly me to overlook such necessary items for a park, you'd have thought I'd wasn't building a park. So please enjoy this wonderful notch for my career and should I need more funds, as I likely will, please don't keep your purses shut."

     
  • mister d posted at 7:26 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    This park will be a monument to the arrogance of the CDA council and a knife in the back of the majority of residents. The city encompasses more than downtown (surprise) and most local business is done north of downtown.

     
  • charliek60 posted at 7:21 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    charliek60 Posts: 204

    unless it has a skating pond , it will be empty 8 months out of the year when the tourists leave.

    locals won't be frolicking in the park much , in the fall and winter ,

    I don't reckon , so.

    I just hope it's built well. At this point its all we can ask for.

     
  • charliek60 posted at 7:11 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    charliek60 Posts: 204

    the going rate for " design work is 3% to 5% of contract sum , FYI

     
  • Timeless posted at 7:03 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    Kudos to the Mayor and Council for seeing this through.. McEuen is going to be fantastic!

     
  • Timeless posted at 7:02 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 480

    Concerned: it is clear, by reading any of your posts, that you don't care about anything g except complaining ON ANY SUBJECT.
    Get outside, get a life.

     
  • Cdajon posted at 6:52 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    Cdajon Posts: 447

    1.9 million seems like an exorbitant fee for design work. I think Miller Stauffer is the grand beneficiary.

     
  • NoName posted at 6:45 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    NoName Posts: 253

    JoeIdaho, you couldn't be more right!

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:17 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Cauios doesn't care about money; so long as it's "someone else's". He's just another communist, "all for the state!" and the little guy who has to pay for this debacle, he doesn't matter.

    This thing is a DEBACLE and is a MAJOR LOSS for Coeurd'alene. The citizens lost faith in their local government, just like in California, and the communists cheered.

     
  • wheels1 posted at 6:16 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    wheels1 Posts: 461

    I totally support the McEuen project but find the design contract fee exorbitant.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 6:06 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    What happened to the $14.4 and not a penny more?

    CaiusCosades, I do not care HOW it is going to look. This is about a bunch of LIARS using OUR money for personal gain.

     
  • CaiusCosades posted at 5:17 am on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.

    CaiusCosades Posts: 380

    I can't wait to see it when it's finished! This area is going to look amazing. This is a big win for CDA!

     
default avatar
Welcome to the site! Login or Signup below.
|
Not you?||
Logout|My Dashboard

Stocks