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Expanded days to process permits

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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:00 am

Due to the daunting volume of applications, the Kootenai County Sheriff's Office is increasing the number of days it issues and processes concealed weapons permits, the agency announced on Thursday.

Starting on Monday, the sheriff's office will conduct CWP services five days a week, instead of the two days scheduled before.

"The numbers have gone up so much, we need to expand the service to process them in a timely fashion," said Sheriff Ben Wolfinger. "It takes time to do it all."

With potential federal gun regulation still looming after the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre, the number of permit applications has ballooned in Kootenai County.

The sheriff's office processed 655 regular permits from Jan. 1 to Feb. 21 this year, the agency reported.

That well outpaces the 271 regular permits issued in the same time frame last year.

"I think it's pretty obvious," Wolfinger said of why demand is surging. "With everything going on in the country, more people want these. They're putting in applications, and we need to process them."

Under the new schedule, the sheriff's office will accept new CWP applications, process renewal CWP applications and conduct fingerprinting from 8:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays.

The office will issue approved permits from 8:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. on Mondays and Fridays.

Brian Knoll, spokesman for Black Sheep Sporting Goods, touted the agency's goal of helping individuals pursue weapons permits.

"I think it's a welcome change, in the sense it's being done in an effort to better serve the people of Kootenai County," Knoll said.

The Coeur d'Alene store has seen its gun sales jump roughly 40 percent since President Barack Obama's re-election, Knoll estimated.

"People are frustrated, in the sense they're having a hard time getting basic items, like practice ammunition and reloading components," Knoll said.

The sheriff's office previously processed and issued CWPs from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. on Wednesdays and Fridays.

Today is the last day for that schedule.

Knoll hasn't heard of anyone complaining about a long wait at the sheriff's office, but he isn't surprised to hear that demand for CWPs has increased.

"With the pending threat of increased legislation, people want to avoid future additional red tape and headache," he said.

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  • The Golden Mean posted at 6:04 pm on Mon, Feb 25, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "... you might try telling that to the soldiers that died at Ft. Hood"

    "More Guns" did not prevent Ft Hood from happening. "More Guns" in the hands of untrained civilians is not an answer.


    Re: "I'd rather be shot than surrender"

    Please re-read my post... "While it may be that the type of people who carry firearms are simply more likely to get shot, it may be that guns give a sense of empowerment that causes carriers to overreact in tense situations"

    Chill out Cowboy and stay alive.

     
  • boohoo2U posted at 5:18 pm on Mon, Feb 25, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    I'd rather be shot than surrender, like the liberal nopeys, and be shackled.
    Golden, you might try telling that to the soldiers that died at Ft. Hood.
    What is Obama ordering into your koolaide GM?

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 11:04 am on Sun, Feb 24, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "Nobody WANTS to "use their gun in anger", the have them for protection"

    Protection?!? Ironically, carrying a gun increases the risk of getting shot and killed.


    "People who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens".

    "While it may be that the type of people who carry firearms are simply more likely to get shot, it may be that guns give a sense of empowerment that causes carriers to overreact in tense situations" - Charles C. Branas, PhD | Professor of Epidemiology in Biostatistics and Epidemiology

     
  • straight up posted at 9:55 am on Sun, Feb 24, 2013.

    straight up Posts: 967

    Here is a must read story of a 4th Generation Elected Rep in Wyoming telling a do-gooder outsider who just moved to his state to leave if she did not like the gun laws in her new state. This guy rocks! :

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/24/by-all-means-leave-the-amazingly-blunt-response-one-state-rep-gave-a-citizen-who-wrote-him-opposing-concealed-carry-in-schools/

    A quote: (sound familiar?) "It offends me to no end when liberal out-of-staters such as yourself move into Wyoming, trying to get away from where they came from, and then pompously demand that Wyoming conform to their way of thinking."

     
  • The Simple Truth posted at 8:15 am on Sun, Feb 24, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    did your parents have any children that lived?

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 10:21 pm on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    I have never heard anything as stupid as this:
    "All it takes is a rumor about impending "gun control"?
    A "rumor of gun control".
    WHO DO YOU THINK STARTED IT?
    My God.
    Your "president" told us all that his number 1 priority IS gun control.
    And YOU call it a "rumor".
    Dumbest thing to leave your piehole. Ever.

    "4 years ago was a good time to start investing in gun suppliers and manufacturers. They are part of the recent surge in the Dow"
    Really; is that so?
    ANOTHER ignorant comment by a communist.
    LET ME explain this to you, brainiac:
    Gun manufacturers are doign well in sales, butthey are being attacked by the government, and everybody knows it. Banks for S&W decided to try to stop & hold their accounts hostage, and nothign was done about it by the "guvinment"
    You though, YOU think this is "why the stock market is up".
    What's your encore?

    " Instead you all stock piled rifles you'll never get a chance to use in anger... shame"
    A final doltish comment.
    Nobody WANTS to "use their gun in anger", the have them for protection. Yes, I kow you don' know the difference.

    And Milburn, you KNOW I'm your biggest fan, but what's this "While our revolutionary cadres and peoples militias form up and reinforce each other vows to fill the gutters with bodies till the ammo runs out"?
    I'm involved, every day, with Preppers. None that I know of espouse anything approaching anything like that.

     
  • flattopramen posted at 4:02 pm on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    Exactly... irrational fear drove up gun prices.

    The NRA lobby controls both sides of the aisle...

    All it takes is a rumor about impending "gun control"? This is fear driven American consumerism not patriotism.

    It's no secret that if you can convince the American public there may be a shortage of anything (Iphones, tickle me elmos, AR-15s). They will go out in droves and buy one... even if they don't need it.

    4 years ago was a good time to start investing in gun suppliers and manufacturers. They are part of the recent surge in the Dow. Instead you all stock piled rifles you'll never get a chance to use in anger... shame.

     
  • milburnschmidt posted at 1:41 pm on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    You have to give the Obamamites and Libs credit for one thing they have switched the debate on a national roblem with violence to black guns. Never mind the fact the majority of the killing are from black and hispanic inner city gangs and children who are or should be stuffed with mood altering drugs to insure they dont harm their teachers or playmates. Take those out of the equation and the numbers of gun deaths are not that big a problem. Included in gun deaths are suicides and those killed ny police.
    Instead of a National commision on increasing violence the president sends Joe Biden out for coffee and donuts with a few special interests in a discussion where the outcome was already known. Not a word of mental health laws or unenforceable orders of protectio by courts. In New York the loons run loose and push people onto subway tracks and no thought at all about taking them off the streets. While our revolutionary cadres and peoples militias form up and reinforce each other vows to fill the gutters with bodies till the ammo runs out the rest of us have to rely on the system which has been broke for years. Guns are a symptom of our problem but No one is talking about mental health issues which is driving our young with the help of movies and video games into the headlines. Inner city gangs arent a concern here but in Chicago and LA and philidelphia you would think the thought of losing hundreds of Democratic voters would cause alarm. Of course in some precincts the families will see the dead vote on time. DCIDAHO points out a truth many have never been exposed to violence or seen it. Good for him he is lucky but many people are affected by violence such as beaten housewives,witnesses in criminal trials or those who are the victims of home invasions. Those who deal with the after effect of violence have a different perspective. Obviously many feel different than DC and have had different expiriences than him that doesnt mean the streets are safe. If you are a gun owner applying for a CCW is one way of showing your support against the banning of guns as some want. At some point we have to accept the collective wisdom of others and they are applying because they feel a need. Thats their business.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 12:43 pm on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Demand shoots up for concealed weapons... In our next story, Men with "Low T" parade around town dressed in camouflage with their guns exposed...

    *** Scene from Airplane 2013 ***
    Captain Oveur: You ever been in a cockpit before?
    Joey: No sir, I've never been up in a plane before.
    Captain Oveur: Joey, did you know that I have a concealed weapon?


    Today's Manly Man News has been brought to by Trucks With Big Tires and Tobacco Spit.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 11:54 am on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    I LOVE it.
    BloBAMA decides that guns should all be illegal, and fatto says' that it's Republicans's fault the prices went up".
    FEAR of not being ABLE to buy guns drives prices up, genius.

     
  • flattopramen posted at 11:07 am on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    With all of you in a panic to arm yourselves, you've driven the prices way up on all calibers and styles. Good news for the gun dealers! I have been trying to find a deal on a used m44 for a few months, nothing under $250! Pre-Obama they were closer to 100. Thank you paranoid Republicans...

    Until all you little rabbits stop buying up all the guns and ammo in a hurried panic, will prices and availability even out. How much longer? oh right 4 more years... ugh

    Fear drives gun sales... not patriotism. And the dealers and manufactures are taking advantage of it. What's the point with no ammo? Stop arming yourselves and focus on the big issue.

    We need to be arming each other, not arming ourselves... recognize the greed that seems to be prevalent in the used gun market and you'll understand these people are not patriots, but vultures taking advantage of a fearful populace.

     
  • cgent47 posted at 7:17 am on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    cgent47 Posts: 193

    CW Permits make for a much more polite citizenry.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:56 am on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    OK, "simple", I'm impressed.
    Now, can you get the gay population to grasp the issue of fiscal insanity & the NEED for a strong military?

    Good thing to hear that there's a Gay group that is against violating our Second Amendment right. Bravo.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:53 am on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    WHAT"S TEH PROBL:EM WITH CAPS "sIMPLEtRuTH"?

     
  • The Simple Truth posted at 6:46 am on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    Hey, JoeIdaho, a freebie just for you....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

     
  • The Simple Truth posted at 6:45 am on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    you should really have a lesson in the use of ALL CAPS, you seem to have some weird addiction to it...

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:02 am on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    boohoo, you have a good point, well taken, I agree with you.

     
  • boohoo2U posted at 10:33 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    Sorry Joe, have to disagree. Without a paycheck and potential guns pointed in their direction, how many officers will report for duty? Probably none! They will be at home protecting their own and hoping their neighbors will forgive.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 9:50 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Good, DC, you keep fearing the "hormonally imbalanced" and they'll probably keep protecting you; some of them are Police Officers, and MANY of them are the US Military.
    See, those professions take real men to do the job; unlike the things that libs do for a living.
    How many libs are there Army?
    Zero.
    How many libs are there in the Kootenai County PD?
    Probably none.
    How many of us gun totin hillbillies TOTALLY support our law enforcement officers?
    Most all of us.
    What percentage of liberals dislike the mmilitary AND law enforcement?
    Most all of you.

    Get used to losing, it'll happen more often now.

     
  • boohoo2U posted at 9:42 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    pardon my indiscretion. How can I help you floorist? You might drop those socks and grab your honey!

     
  • DCIDAHO posted at 9:18 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2990

    I fear the hormonally challenged nut jobs more than the guns they are buying or the fictional reasons they have for buying them.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 6:55 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    "WHY is it that you libs ALWAYS try to restrict what other people do?"

    Gun Pride failed to self-manage. Proof being the Gun Show loophole.

     
  • boohoo2U posted at 5:42 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    I somewhat agree with DC - no need for CCW, no license required for 'open carry'!
    In most situations, a stout stick will keep the dogs of 2013 at bay. Don't depend on the police to save your but though. If someone offends, leave them in the gutter. Offenders need only violate a law and put my life and property at risk to incur my wrath.

    I'm mad as h3ll, and I'm not going to take it!

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 5:15 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    DC, the REASON you never needed a gun was because you were never in 2013.

    This "wanna be Rambo" had 2 of his employees shot, one died, working in Detroit. Neither had a gun, and I wish both of them had had one.

    WHY is it that you libs ALWAYS try to restrict what other people do?

    And again....there WILL be more guns in Kootenai County. Criminals beware.

     
  • DCIDAHO posted at 4:12 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2990

    "when you have someone hold a gun on you"....NEVER, in my whole life, have I had cause to need a gun. I own several and have a CCW. I don't carry. No one I know, no one I've ever talked to, anywhere, has ever had reason to NEED a gun. I've traveled extensively, throughout the world, and have never even seen an incident where there was a need for a gun. You wannabe Rambos are kinda silly.

     
  • CaiusCosades posted at 4:02 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    CaiusCosades Posts: 380

    I take it you're not fond of people telling the truth about things.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 2:38 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    So, libs, here's the deal:
    REGARDLESS if you like it or not; there WILL be more guns, close to you, in Kootenai County, every day, and night. The net result will be better protected citizenry, and citizens who wil back uip our local police if they run into any of your friends/gangbangers.

    Now, we ALL KNOW that this isn't a good thing (for you) so when you have someone hold a gun on you, and there's a Teabilly person there with a gun who COULD help you, make sure to let him know that his gun isn't NEEDED, and that way you'll feel safer. The guy holding you up is obviously just "having some problems" and if he IS a gang banger, it's ONLY because of his bad childhood, and it's a republican's fault anyways. Tell the criminal that you're on his side, and that you voted for boobama, and I'm SURE you'll make a great, lifelong friend, one you can share warm, heartfelt stories with, especially the one where you first met....

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 2:09 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    DeNiles, excellent post, I agree 100%.

     
  • bionic man posted at 1:42 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    Pure and simple for the reason of concealed carry. Too many criminals on the street nowdays. Gangs, drug addicts, etc. If the legal system would punish them, we wouldn't have the problem. Any crime committed with a firearm should be sentenced to minimum of 10 years "hard labor." Any crime committed with a firearm that results in death...immediate death by a firing squad. Our problem is the lawyers and the bleeding heart liberals. Go to the fact....an eye for an eye.

     
  • Insider posted at 12:16 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    Insider Posts: 360

    I hear you. Not a fan that Washington doesn't have reciprocity but I just opted for the WA non-resident permit. Kind of hokey, being a small piece of paper but it is what it is. I make it a point to always be armed, case in point being your possible need of it. Stay safe.

     
  • FromNIdaho posted at 12:00 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    FromNIdaho Posts: 48

    Ummm, Vermont, Alaska and AZ all have laws requiring you to get your CCW with fingerprinting, database input, etc. Federal Requirement. I got my first CCW right after I graduated Arizona State.

    My argument would be that, yeah it's your right to open carry. But you are opening yourself up for a world of issues. Besides people looking at you funny, and probably getting the police called on you a couple of times. If some crackhead walks into the convenience store you are in, intent on robbing the place to get his fix. You are open carrying, then you become a target. Probably the first target he will want to eliminate. The element of surprise is on his side. And while you are waiting in line to purchase your items, he is seeing a target on the back of your head.

     
  • FromNIdaho posted at 11:54 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    FromNIdaho Posts: 48

    My wife and I stayed at the Davenport last weekend. We walked to the Steamplant for dinner. Then down to the mall. There was a shooting less than a half a block from where we were at 10 min. after we were there. I have my Idaho CCW, waiting on my Utah CCW. I was not carrying while I was there. Lucky we didn't order desert and were walking by 10 min later.

     
  • FromNIdaho posted at 11:50 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    FromNIdaho Posts: 48

    You must be proud of this post. I think I have seen it a couple of times now. I can just see you know, copy, paste, sit back and chuckle at how clever you are.

     
  • FromNIdaho posted at 11:49 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    FromNIdaho Posts: 48

    Simple Truth: I have been driving for a long time, never got in an accident, but I carry insurance. Haven't had my house burn down either, but have insurance for that. Never had a bank go under with my money, but it is all FDIC insured. That's how I see it, just a little bit of insurance.

     
  • The Simple Truth posted at 11:35 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    Your fear, NoName, amuses me. I tend to live in the real world though, so your fear has little effect on me. Enjoy your under-endowed fantasy, though. Have fun.

     
  • max power posted at 10:37 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    max power Posts: 559

    Your question could have been worded to read. Why do law abiding people need concealed weapons if black gangbangers are shooting each other? Isn't it safer to stay away from black gangbangers?

    To answer your question because sometimes dirtbags & black gangbangers don't stay in Dirtbagsville & the ghetto. They wander into Law Abiding People'sville with bad intentions. That's why...

     
  • Insider posted at 9:46 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    Insider Posts: 360

    There you go, TST, you outed yourself using your own lack of logic and reason. Thanks for making my point for me.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 9:40 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "There are dirtbags shooting each other less than 30 miles from CDA almost every week"

    Why do law abiding people need concealed weapons if dirt bags are shooting each other? Isn't it safer to stay away from dirt bags?

     
  • NoName posted at 9:16 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    NoName Posts: 253

    The Simple Truth is a simpleton. If you don't want to carry TST, you don't have to. However if you are so naive to think there's insufficient reason to carry you are clueless. There are dirtbags shooting each other less than 30 miles from CDA almost every week. From your idiotic posts we can all assume:
    You voted for Owebama and thinks he's doing a bang up job.
    Joe Biden really "speaks to you" on gun policy.
    There's no reason to own a gun let a lone carry one.
    Everything in America isn't good, it's great!

     
  • The Simple Truth posted at 8:58 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    spot on

     
  • will-- posted at 8:54 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    will-- Posts: 1214

    Someone missed taking their meds this morning.

     
  • carol posted at 8:46 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    carol Posts: 663

    No, we are not offended with your right/choice to have weapons. You are the ones deriding us for wanting some kind of limit. Just don't think that bigger/badder guns, more bullets per mag is the answer. Does an intercontinental ballistic missile count? It is just a bigger bullet. And tanks are just bigger guns that you can ride in. Where does it stop? Mad Max to the rescue!!

     
  • DeNiles posted at 8:38 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Simple Truth......... Try working in an emergency room where all the crimes victims often end up. Then you'll get a real feel for the degree of peril, the frequency of their occurrences, and the severity of injury. I suggest you take your extended family to Los Angeles and visit the Los Angeles Natural History Museum. Take them for a casual stroll though the surrounding community - unarmed. Then come back (if that's possible) and tell us all how safe you feel.

     
  • Insider posted at 7:59 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    Insider Posts: 360

    It's unfortunate that given the choice to carry a gun or not, those that choose not to are so adamantly offended by those that do that they resort to mockery and insult of those who do. Keep pretending the world is a safe place, but don't be upset that others prepare themselves for the unlikely event of the need to defend oneself with lethality. Some of us value our lives and those of our families enough that we are willing to take on an enormous responsibility with maturity. It is not a matter of fear, as you folks like to point out, but rather preparedness.

     
  • CaiusCosades posted at 7:40 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    CaiusCosades Posts: 380

    The North Idaho Republican mantra when ANYTHING happens:

    Step 1. Panic. Tell friends and family and everyone who meet that the sky is falling, the end is nigh, the country is crumbling, everything used to be a utopia but now everything is dystopian.

    Step 2. Blame liberals and Californians for anything you don't like. Complain about everything non-stop.

    Step 3. Start stockpiling weapons and ammo, try to convince everyone they're the crazy ones.

    Step 4. Grab bible.

    Step 5. Run for the hills.

     
  • The Simple Truth posted at 7:39 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    y'know, Denial, I've managed to survive for a half century on the planet so far, a lot of that time in the third world countries where Uncle Sam decided I needed to be and have survived very well. I'm not as fearful of the world as conservatives such as yourself are...you really should get out more often, you'd stop being scared of everything.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 7:11 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Simple Truth...... You'd better hope there's a prepared 'Teabilly schizo' nearby when your unarmed rearend gets assaulted. If not some homeboy is gonna take your money, your wife and your life and laugh in your face whilst you bleed to pale white dead.

     
  • Insider posted at 5:39 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    Insider Posts: 360

    Yes, it is quite radical that law abiding citizens go through the proper procedures to legally carry a concealed weapon. What are they thinking?

     
  • The Simple Truth posted at 3:00 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    all da teabillies are goin' schizo!

     
  • IdahoMan posted at 1:06 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    IdahoMan Posts: 105

    I would not be willing to have may name in a database, let alone being fingerprinted, in order to exercise my rights.

    You can Open Carry in Idaho, no permits/cards, paperwork, fingerprinting, background-checks, or asking anyone's permition. It's your right, it's your business.. Just as it should be. It should be the same for Concealed Carry or any other form of bearing arms in a vehicle, on a person, etc..

    Vermont, Alaska, Arizona don't have these unconstitutional restrictions. When will Idaho follow?

    PS: If Idaho is to go the "Constitutional Carry" rout, it is important that it be done in a way where any proposed/passed law be worded so it repeals or strikes-out current restriction and doesn't act like it is granting some new privilege.

     
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