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McEuen: $4.2 million more

City Council votes to add amenities, ask LCDC for extra funds

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Posted: Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:00 am

COEUR d'ALENE - All in.

The city of Coeur d'Alene wants to add previously removed amenities to the McEuen Park plan, and is asking its urban renewal agency to fund the additions.

The City Council agreed Wednesday night to move forward with a project plan that now includes tennis and basketball courts, as well as an expanded pavilion and other perks that weren't a part of the project design a few weeks ago.

The council, as it has on almost all McEuen Field matters over the last year, split on the matter, and Mayor Sandi Bloem broke the deadlock by voting in favor of the enhanced version of the plan.

"The headline this morning was absolutely right," Bloem said, referring to the Press headline in Wednesday's paper about the park options before the council. "'What park do you want?'"

The decision means the next step is to officially ask Lake City Development Corp., the urban renewal agency and main financial supporter of the park project, to contribute up to $4.2 million more.

LCDC has already pledged around $12 million for the project, and another $4 million would all but exhaust the $16.75 million line of credit it secured to support the park project. That could mean future projects in the Lake District wouldn't be able to get urban renewal support.

The city agreed to pay an additional $1.4 million of its own funds to land the park plan including through savings and future overlay funds, and is working on a Local Improvement District with Front Avenue property owners that would pay for street improvements adjacent the park.

The city could still look for savings out of those two financial streams, Councilman Mike Kennedy said, which could alter details in the future.

But right now, he said, it's important the city go to LCDC first to see if the city can build the best park it can with the funds that could be available soon.

"LCDC was formed for this purpose," he said. "I think we should go back to them."

With the added amenities, the high end estimate on the park project is around $17.6 million. But the total proposed estimated cost of the project - including money that has already been spent on it, such as work already completed and architect and engineering fees and contracts - would be $20.8 million.

While the estimated costs on the project are becoming clearer, they have shifted considerably since the conceptual idea was introduced two years ago. Figures as high as $39 million when the design drawings were introduced have shifted down to $27 million, and at one point as low as $14.2 million.

"Just weird," Councilman Steve Adams, who voted against the increased funding, called the changing cost numbers. "Almost bizarre. But aside from all that, I think LCDC should pony up ... At this point, we're neck deep ..."

Council members Ron Edinger and Dan Gookin also voted against it. Gookin called it "an abuse of urban renewal."

Council members Woody McEvers, Kennedy and Deanna Goodlander voted in favor.

The city has said it wants to send the project out to bid this month. LCDC meets for its monthly board meeting Jan. 16. It was unclear at the Press deadline whether LCDC would call a special call meeting for the topic.

City makes offer on Person Field

The city of Coeur d'Alene Wednesday night said it has offered School District 271 $655,000 for its share of Person Field.

Due to a budgetary shortfall, the school district is selling its 3.8-acre portion of Person Field, the 7-acre park on 15th Street it shares with the city.

But the city is offering to pay the appraised value of the property, which is zoned Residential 12, while also requesting that the city's recreation department have access into two more of the school's gyms.

The city currently has joint access to several school districts gym. The city is requesting to extend agreements with two of those schools, and for access into two more gyms as part of the property purchase. The city is also requesting the dog park portion of Northshire Park, another park the school district is selling.

The school district will discuss the offer at its Jan. 7 meeting, chairman Tom Hamilton said.

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44 comments:

  • IdahoNative posted at 4:53 pm on Sun, Jan 6, 2013.

    IdahoNative Posts: 43

    Maybe Councilman Kennedy's "Proud Aunt Anna Patty Duke Pearce" as she so stated in a former letter regarding this matter should foot the bill for the extra money wanted. So far, proud Aunt hasn't chimed in. Stay tuned. Maybe his "Proud Uncle Michael Pearce, husband of Anna Patty Duke Pearce can borrow some money from his wife to foot the bill too. Stay tuned. Maybe she can do more low lying acting at the local theater to raise the money for this project.

     
  • NAS4AH2 posted at 9:55 am on Sat, Jan 5, 2013.

    NAS4AH2 Posts: 71

    Jail is too good for these crooks. I have 397.. oops 396 free articles to view... so I thought I'd chime in.

     
  • Rationale posted at 12:55 pm on Fri, Jan 4, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    John Austin, the mayor, and all the disgusting, lying sycophants: "It's $14 million. That's it...the project is only $14 million, not the $40 million you claim!"

    Then you don't get another penny! If you can't do it for the $14 million you PROMISED, then tough.

    Take your filthy, disgusting, lies and stick it!

    Vermin!

     
  • jmowreader posted at 11:49 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    jmowreader Posts: 1483

    Turning CdA into the tourist trap everyone around here seems to want is going to be more expensive than you thought. Feel fortunate I'm not the mayor; I would have put the sawmill back five years ago.

     
  • justinian posted at 9:18 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    justinian Posts: 318

    Bitchin'!

    Just sayin' BITCHIN!

    Just

     
  • bionic man posted at 8:31 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    As we sow, so shall we reap.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 8:00 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Do you really think the mayor, mikey the puppet or what any of the stakeholders think or care about the citizens of CdA? They have gotten what they wanted. The mayors building will be worth millions more, mikey's bosses buildings that they bought while sitting on various boards along with all of the other stalkeholders buildings and properties will be worth millions more. That is what this has been about all along. They could give a RIP about the people of CdA

     
  • straight up posted at 7:26 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    straight up Posts: 965

    That swishing sound you are hearing is the sound of LCDC pulling the strings of their Manchurian Candidate mayor at full speed.

    "Her Time" has arrived and the strings will be singing constantly as she does the Chicago West Two Step for her handlers.

    Might as well sit back and enjoy the show...it's going to be a good one!

     
  • Ghost Writer posted at 6:42 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    Ghost Writer Posts: 56

    It never stops these are the highlights as taken from there own meetings and this newspapers articles:
    The City Council agreed Wednesday
    Mayor Sandi Bloem broke the deadlock by voting in favor of the enhanced version of the plan.
    absolutely right," Bloem said
    The city agreed to pay an additional $1.4 million of its own funds to land the park plan
    Council members Woody McEvers, Kennedy and Deanna Goodlander voted in favor.
    Which McEuen will it be?
    Lake City Development Corp. adopted its fiscal year 2013 budget Wednesday.
    The board unanimously approved to spend $18.6 million next year, triple the amount it did two years ago.
    $12 million from the $16.75 million line of credit the agency has with Washington Trust Bank to pay for upgrades to the downtown park's redesign.
    The agency estimates it will pay the bank back around $2 million off that borrowed sum in the fiscal year. What a fantacstic Budget the city has, any chance your citizens will get a tax break.
    City Council voted Wednesday.
    LCDC adopted budget Wednesday.
    This is a done deal.


     
  • 1voice posted at 6:42 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    1voice Posts: 56

    Gee, IMI-UBU, why on earth would you call us whiners? Just because we don't want to spend $21 Million on a field that we have enjoyed since we were kids, even mortgaging every scrap of future fund sources that they can come up with? Hmmm, why or why wouldn't we be happy about this? Bloem, Kennedy, Goodlander and Woodbrain have COMPLETELY LOST THEIR MARBLES! And you apparently never had any marbles.

     
  • CaiusCosades posted at 4:23 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    CaiusCosades Posts: 380

    I was born at Kootenai Medical Center and have never lived anywhere else but Idaho, specifically North Idaho, with exception to the time I spent living in Moscow earning my Bachelor's Degree.

     
  • Justin Cottrell posted at 4:02 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    Justin Cottrell Posts: 157

    This won't be the end of the money the Fab-four ask for regarding this project. They won' t stop until they get their 40 million dollar little Disneyland.

     
  • Flash Gordon posted at 4:01 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    Flash Gordon Posts: 1650

    The residents of the two high rises adjacent to McEuen Field have to be absolutely giddy over the new expansion plans for the development, particularly the dog park. Patrons of the two sites have been using McEuen as a "dog waste park" for quite some time. I'd suggest anyone who is "interested" walk by the Park in the early morning hours and late evening hours when "they're" out and about with their dogs. It's really...."eye catching"

    McEuen will be the most expensive dog waste disposal site in the country......

     
  • Ghost Writer posted at 3:09 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    Ghost Writer Posts: 56

    Regardlees of the Color of the State your from, your Skin, your Religion, or your Status in Society, There is fact. " Money is being spent without a public say", On a public land, without the public approval. I will say I do not Live in CDA so there will be those of you who feel I do not have the right to comment. I have listened to your Mayor very closely and your Council that is well divided. The people of CDA will continue to loose as long as the current political figures are in office who keep dictating what to do without PUBLIC VOTE. Just Like Washington they keep being voted in and keep their constituents one step behind. The Time is now to look for those that reperesent the people as a whole. As a county resident I enjoy going to town to eat, shop and watch my children jump off Tubbs Hill and Play in the most natrual park with such beauty. but like many others that to will come to an end unless the PEOPLE vote to change it. I vote to preserve it for the future generations of CDA and use the money elsewhere.

     
  • chouli posted at 1:24 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    chouli Posts: 1294

    IMI-UBU,
    Does it not concern you that the mayor and her council of 3 LIED and stated that the compromise was for the 14.2 million budget?
    That there were no additional phases?
    No additional money will be spent.
    And signs were put up at the park stating that the approved plan was ammended to be 14.2 million and listed the park ammenities clearly?

    And now it seems they have had a change of heart...now that the recall is over and some time has passed.

    Doesn't integrity mean ANYTHING to you? You just see the pretty new over priced park and don't care how it gets there...or what it does to our community in the process. you are as selfish as the tin gods on the council.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 12:56 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    They do not care. They are as cold as ice, indifferent to the leetle peeples and calloused as elephant feet.

    They got theirs............ and you got yours. For those who really thought they cared and bought their lies - you are the ones steeped with shame.

     
  • DJ posted at 12:46 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    DJ Posts: 156

    LMYCDA,

    Jealous? I was born and raised here...Dont want or need californian idealogy in Idaho..Let alone the city councel...go back to where ever you came..Demacan't

     
  • Littleb457 posted at 12:34 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    Littleb457 Posts: 5

    I wish I could "Like" so many of these comments.... I'm just happy that I can say I tried when we had the recall and I signed...... I'm not surprised that the budget has gone up, is anyone else? What harm would it really have done to have let the community vote on a project that effects the whole community?? None. I would love nothing more than to see Bloem gone.

     
  • Spikey posted at 12:15 pm on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    Spikey Posts: 387

    Take note of the picture above. Our oh so courteous mayor is, as usual, ignoring the speaker. She considers the CDA citizens beneath her exalted self. She, by her body language, lets all know that what they think has no bearing on what she wants to do. Such a petty inconsequential little woman.

     
  • Jullee posted at 11:33 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    Jullee Posts: 566

    The question as to how much and where the money will come from to maintain this "Park of Deceit" has never been answered.
    Get ready as Woody would say "Pony Up" ! again because we are also going have to pay for the new sewer up-grade ( millions) and water wells also we will be penalized heavily if you go over a drop.
    All because the city is taking every available dime to spend on "their pet project"
    Thank You, Ron , Dan and Steve for standing up for common sense.

     
  • ProIdaho posted at 11:28 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    ProIdaho Posts: 263

    LMYCDA,

    Just relax, I was having fun with Caius' obvious over-stereotyping by giving some of my own.

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 11:15 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 2288

    Please come up with something better. It only makes you look really goofy!

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 11:14 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    To the Supporters of Decline to Sign:

    We remember that you ran your campaign on the fact that $14.2M was the true cost of the McEuen Park remake. And we remember when you called community members liars and uneducated on the issues.

    However we read in today's Press that current costs can run near $20 if the LCDC will use more of the property taxes to pay for Phase 2 additions, if the City will rob other Council approved budgets and if those who private businesses and residence will profit fork over funds through a local improvement district.

    If you add in the extra costs for upgrades to the ball fields near the Kroc Center, the $20 goes up not including the extra costs that other city budgets such as water, wastewater, and streets have to pay in the McEuen Park and Front Ave. upgrades. Can you see the original $40M estimates becoming a reality?

    How can the City, say in one breath, they don't have the money to purchase Person's Field, and at the same time, commit to robbing other city department's budgets that council approved on behalf of our community?

    How can anyone defend the shuffling of funds for guilty pleasures?

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 11:14 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 2288

    Hmmm, when did California not be part of the US. Are you just jealous DJ. Another sick NI republican't.

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 11:13 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 2288

    ProIdaho, you need to meet with idahotater, you both are having some real issues with life.

     
  • DJ posted at 11:12 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    DJ Posts: 156

    When all is said and done it will be a great place for tourists to come and enjoy...This project has NEVER been about the residents of Coeur d'Alene..and your fooling yourself if you think it was..WOW what a bunch of concerned Native Coeur d'Alene Residents...

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 11:12 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 2288

    Are you ok? You are talking like you are having some serious problems. Take it easy, it will be ok. Maybe a little bit of fresh air might help. I am a democrat and really don't like your attitude one bit. Are you having money problems?? What is your problem??

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 11:10 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 2288

    Who are you? Do you live downtown? Are just another implant from you know where? The point little one is that THEY LIED TO EVERYONE!!! So, stop with your slamming of those expressing their views. Remember...FREEDOM OF SPEECH or is that just for people like you IMI-UBU!!??

     
  • IMI-UBU posted at 10:56 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    IMI-UBU Posts: 98

    The best thing for all of you folks crying about this issue is to stay home and never go downtown to the new site. That will show them.
    I love all the attacks on this issue when all is said and done there will be a great place for all people to come and enjoy.
    WOW!!! What a bunch of whiners.

     
  • DJ posted at 10:50 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    DJ Posts: 156

    Whats next..Maybe the City Councel will have their faces engraved on the side of Tubbs Hill as a monument to the residents at the low low cost of 140 million..Woody on cue - Bitchen !!

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 10:48 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Just a reminde of the Recall effort:

    "The four incumbents who voted in favor of moving the McEuen Field project forward (and against issuing a public vote on the project) were targeted in a recall effort by a group of citizens, called Recall Cda. Recall Cda needed 4,311 signatures from valid Coeur d'Alene voters to prompt the election, and from April through June petitioners could be spotted soliciting signatures, while yards throughout town had signs stating stances on the issue. The effort came up between 185 and 251 certified signatures short of the 4,311 mark on each incumbent, so no vote occurred."

    The recall effort was a very big deal. Mayor Bloem, Council Members Kennedy, Goodlander and McEvers only retained their seats by 185 to 251 votes. They squeaked by making promises to the community that they would not spend more than $14M.

    Lets see if they keep their promises to their supporters.

    Citizens: The above is my post from Wednesday. Today's comment: MAYOR AND COUNCIL LIED TO THEIR SUPPORTERS causing the promised project of $14M that will cost approximately $20M.

    DECLINE TO SIGN SUPPORTS: Do you feel used and abused?

     
  • mister d posted at 10:33 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    What a shame for the residents of CDA .paying for a tourist park that only helps the downtown business owners and leaves the rest of us paying for it. I am going to laugh my head off if next years new council pays some farmer a token amount to bulldoze the whole thing down and just plant grass. Then we will have a useable park for the residents, not a shrine to tourists.

     
  • DJ posted at 10:11 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    DJ Posts: 156

    CaiusCosades - Maybe you should go back to california..So you can fit in.

     
  • DJ posted at 10:07 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    DJ Posts: 156

    CaiusCosades - You can always move back to california....and take your ideology with you.

     
  • ProIdaho posted at 9:59 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    ProIdaho Posts: 263

    Or.....take the typical N. Idaho demo stand:

    Step 1: Create a crisis
    Step 2: Find a way to have everyone else pay for the solution
    Step 3: Lie about where the money will come from or how much it will cost
    Step 4: Insult and denigrate anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view
    Step 5: Blame George W. Bush

     
  • idahotater posted at 9:58 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    idahotater Posts: 54

    And I will take the typical democrat stand:

    Step 1: Tell everyone what "I" want them to do
    Step 2: Bury head in sand, let next generation pay for it
    Step 3: Stockpile Granola, Marijuana, and same sex lovers
    Step 4: Grab iphone
    Step 5: Run for a Blue state so I don't have to take responsibility for any thing.

     
  • DJ posted at 9:44 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    DJ Posts: 156

    The entire McEuen field project (in my opinion) sucks...I can see fixing or improving whats already there..but bulldozing and ripping up the entire park so we can look like a modern californian park...Sucks..I grew up and played ball every summer there as my kids did...I loved the small town feel of McEuen park...and hate to see it go...and it totally feels as though some city councel members are reading from a different book then most of its citizens..I smell $$$ as well as corruption...Call me old fashioned..but McEuen, Tubbs Hill should be a city monument and never be touched..and I know several other areas in CDA that could use some fixing up..instead of dropping millions one on thing. City Councel - Listen to your people..Be for your people..not against them..nor divide them..Do whats right for the People of CDA...This park will not attract the citizens...but push them away from a place that has become a familiar and family park.

     
  • CaiusCosades posted at 9:22 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    CaiusCosades Posts: 380

    I'll take the typical N Idaho repub stand on this so I can fit in:

    Step 1: Tell everyone the sky is falling
    Step 2: Find a way to blame liberals and californians, however irrational my arguments may be
    Step 3: Stockpile guns/ammo
    Step 4: Grab bible
    Step 5: Run for the hills

     
  • ProIdaho posted at 9:08 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    ProIdaho Posts: 263

    @voxpop, nearly every dollar is coming from LCDC. They are the taxing district that includes most of downtown cda, Riverstone and midtown corridor. Since 1997 LCDC have collected all increases in taxes within these properties. I conclude that not having these taxes in the general fund puts more burdon on the city budget.

     
  • SamuelStanding posted at 7:32 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    SamuelStanding Posts: 612

    So there are basketball courts, bandshell and covered pavillion on the other side of the resort already. Now the taxpayers should cough up and additional $4.2 million for the BOOKEND park on the other side of the resort. McEvers, Kennedy and Goodlander must be practicing for a run as congressmen/women...spend other peoples money on implants to give a false sense of PRETTY.

     
  • Flash Gordon posted at 6:56 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    Flash Gordon Posts: 1650

    Chicago west????? This is purely home grown. You must not understand local politics very well:)

     
  • voxpop posted at 6:38 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    Sure would be nice for the Press to identify EXACTLY where and from whom this $21M is coming. Does any come from the county? How much? Why? Same goes for LCDC. What have they spent our money on. How much. Of course, I have no illusions that this is all kept hush hush for obvious reasons. It would likely be VERY embarrassing for LCDC, Cda, and KC if the taxpayer actually knew where OUR money is going. Why should they be any different than the scum in DC.

     
  • straight up posted at 6:24 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    straight up Posts: 965

    And so it goes in Chicago West......

     
  • bionic man posted at 4:03 am on Thu, Jan 3, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    Ron, Dan, Steve are definately correct ib saying "ABUSE OF URBAN RENEWAL" They should have added abuse of power by the fantastic four. I vote that the fantastic 4 be made to pay for the additional.

     
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