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Deja vu all over again

Kennedy says recall effort similar to election trial

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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:15 am

COEUR d'ALENE - A Coeur d'Alene City Councilman fresh off a contentious court battle for his council seat said the recall effort launched last week to oust him and three incumbents is similar to the 2010 court case he called a political attack.

Mike Kennedy, who spent a year in the courtroom defending his then-5 vote victory over challenger Jim Brannon, told The Press "the core" group of people between both efforts makes the two hard to separate.

"I do," said Kennedy on whether he believed the two were similar. "They are still appealing the election lawsuit from 2009 to the Idaho Supreme Court and it is the same core group of people involved. The two things are linked."

Recall supports say that couldn't be farther from the truth.

The two are completely separate, they said, and if some people involved in the recall effort were also involved in the election challenge lawsuit or anything else it is coincidental.

"A has nothing to do with B. There's no connection, there's no carry over. There's no relationship between the recall effort and the election challenge," said Jim Doty, one of the 20 people to sign the petition last week that started the recall effort.

Doty was also one of the first Brannon supporters who spoke out against the city in 2009 after Brannon was fired while on the campaign trail as director at Habitat for Humanity of North Idaho. He classified Brannon's ousting as backlash from the city because Brannon posed a threat to its current governing, such as urban renewal.

(The city denied it had any part in it, and it never came up during the court case.)

Doty said the only similarity with a few that were on both the petition and tied to the court case, is that some people just happen to be politically active.

"The people who are taking on the recall are vocal enough to stand up and speak and don't worry about backlash or retaliation," he said. "I would never use a word like 'attack' on either side. We're exercising our constitutional rights, just like they are."

Rep. Kathy Sims, R-Coeur d'Alene, was involved in a different case with the city of Coeur d'Alene.

In 2009, she agreed to pay $2,500 for a last-minute attack she helped circulate against incumbents in the 2007 municipal elections.

The mailed fliers targeted city-supported expenditures toward the private Riverstone Development and urged citizens to vote against incumbent council members Al Hassell, Dixie Reid and Ron Edinger in 2007, but Sims had breached campaign disclosure laws along the way.

Monday she called connecting alleged dots between the recall effort - which was launched in reaction to the council not agreeing to issue a public advisory vote on the park plan - and prior situations "overreaching."

"It has absolutely nothing to do with anything personal. It has to do with the way they're spending money, it has to do with LCDC," she said.

She said re-appearing names in any political topic has more to do with Coeur d'Alene's size than anything else.

"We all live here ... And we have for generations," she said. "This is not a huge metropolitan area, this is Coeur d'Alene."

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  • JonnyQPubic posted at 11:57 am on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    JonnyQPubic Posts: 325

    Comments on both sides of the issue are increasingly turning to childish playground name-calling and many show a questionable education level and/or prove that folks care more about whining than they do in making adult, comprehensible arguments. I used to be somewhat amused, now I'm just disgusted. The more I learn about people in my community the more I am saddened for what's become of the wonderful, friendly city that I have lived in all my life. Thanks for nothing.

  • RadRev2D posted at 8:39 am on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    RadRev2D Posts: 372

    2nd category is Close Enough

    You can visit Coeur d'Alene's Zoo on Sherman after getting an ice cream cone. Just cross the street.

    DO NOT FEED the Hayden Troll on display. He was rescued by LCDC from a trailer court and now serves the Disabled Population of CDA as an example of attitudes to avoid.

    Have pity on him...this is his last best role before denial to cross the Rainbow Bridge to Heaven.
    Not all mutts get to go there!

  • kimknerl posted at 12:38 am on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    kimknerl Posts: 286


    You stated in an earlier post, and I quote:

    “I don't like where my State taxes go or what they go for, Guess what we voted them in and they are making decisions on our behalf whether we like it or not. This is the exact same thing thats going on with the City.”

    I’m confused? Was this supposed to be an argument against a recall? This just may be the first accurate statement from you.

  • Close Enough posted at 11:21 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Close Enough Posts: 134

    @Imi-ubu: After skimming through your past posts I have decided that you are either (1) a troll—who acts as a red herring--who posts to draw easy criticism, or (2) an individual with a serious chip on his shoulder who possesses the mental capacity of a child.

    I am inclined to believe that you fall into the 2nd category.

    If I am correct, I suggest you exercise caution in your future posts. I find your empty threats to be quite humorous—especially your attempts to intimidate and physically challenge other posters. In a similar fashion, your contention that ‘you would put be on my rear’ is exceptionally hilarious.

    Your self described job position (answering the phone all day) suggests that you are a secretary. While I normally would not entertain a physical confrontation with a secretary, much less a mentally handicapped one, I would gladly make an exception for you.

  • martman posted at 10:12 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    martman Posts: 16

    "We all live here....and have for generations." Ms. Sims said of the recall petitioners I read recently in the Press that Frank Orzell the chairman of the recall effort has lived in CDA for 6 years. Get your story straight people.

  • lexacon posted at 8:19 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    lexacon Posts: 80

    "A recall, while it is a part of our system, it is usually used to remove someone from office that has been unethical, immoral, or committed a crime, not because you feel like you didn't get your way. >>>>>>>>>">meesterbox

    This might be true in other states, but this is not the case in Idaho. Someone mentioned how many people live in the city who are supporters of the "Stop the Recall effort" not 50 %. On the other hand those who are supporting the recall effort must live in the city, or at least was the case when Mary checked my ID to make sure my residence was in the City of Coeur d' Alene!

  • rebmem posted at 6:53 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    rebmem Posts: 101

    i just skip certain posters and don't even read. not worth my time.

  • concernedcitizen posted at 6:49 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    What happen to "I be I and you be you"?

    Can't have a difference of opinion?

    I guess unless that opinion differs from yours eh?

    You cannot STOP the recall. The mayor and three created what they have created.

    You vote your way and I will vote mine in '12

  • mister d posted at 6:23 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    It's sad some posters cannot write without personal attacks on other posters. It sure invalidates your opinion with most people.

  • IMI-UBU posted at 3:40 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    IMI-UBU Posts: 98

    WOW!! A school teacher.
    GOSH I am so sorry that I offended you.
    To bad your education didn't stop you from being so ignorant.
    I work with an ex school teacher that wonders if a 1st grade teacher like yourself has any reason to talk.
    I have to post while writing answering phones and working with people as they come into the office.
    I don't have the luxury of sitting on my idol @$$ writing.
    And yes there have been many attacks against those in office. You and the others can dish it out but are very poor about taking it.
    So I don't want to take off the gloves.
    You now can put some effort in your thoughts prior to writing.
    Go ahead see how it feels.

  • IMI-UBU posted at 3:21 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    IMI-UBU Posts: 98

    Dear nice try,
    Yes and no to your question.
    The way I look at it is this:
    The group started this by bullying ,name calling and general disgraceful behavior.
    I am just fighting fire with fire.
    There is no way to compromise so I say the war is on.
    If you don't like my statements then you must not like many of their statements.
    Oh thats right its Okay as long as they are on your side.
    You and the others have no facts just emotional bias.
    By the way I'll put my 3rd grade level up against your 1st grade level anytime.
    By the way nice try no cigar.

  • CClavin posted at 3:10 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    CClavin Posts: 221

    IMI-UBU Sorry if I offended you with the CAPS LOCK THING, I guess it comes from my years as a teacher trying to make "little Johnny" literate so he can blog without sounding like an idiot. The only person threatening anybody is you. Please calm down and think before you post.

  • nice try posted at 2:53 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    nice try Posts: 37

    IMI-UBU...have you any facts. Can you read and spell (puncuation) at a third grade level? Can you have a discussion without the personal attacks? Your tactics are nothing but bulling.

  • IMI-UBU posted at 2:22 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    IMI-UBU Posts: 98

    By the way close enough,
    I bet that if we met face to face that you rear will be on the curb not mine.
    Try pulling your panties out of the wad and bring it on.
    You are just a little whiner like the rest.
    I do not and will not fear this group of folks.
    None of you scare me physically or mentally so again those that feel real strong about pushing us away will get pushed back that much harder.
    Just poking a stick at the mob.

  • Justthree posted at 2:21 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Justthree Posts: 68

    The recall is not about change or lack thereof. It is about our rights as taxpayers to representation. Say whatever you will, I believe that you have every right to not support the recall. I believe just as firmly that it is my right to support it.

  • IMI-UBU posted at 1:58 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    IMI-UBU Posts: 98

    you don't seem to make any sense to me so then why don't you shut your big mouth, I don't casre what your thoughts are as they seem to be quite limited. There now I feel better.
    How many of you good folks get to determine where your State or Federal taxes go for.
    I don't like where my State taxes go or what they go for, Guess what we voted them in and they are making decisions on our behalf whether we like it or not. This is the exact same thing thats going on with the City.
    You may not like what they are doing (city Council -Mayor) but the truth is that they (like the parts of government) they are doing their job.
    Even the 2 new Council members won't back the recall and they are as about as conservative one can get.
    Mike don't worry about Jenny as she is caught up in trying to be popular with the mob.
    There are many people that support you and the council but seem to be afraid to stand up against this group.
    I am neither afraid of this group and will have no problem facing them when needed.
    For those of you willing to move forward and stop this insanity please don't give up.
    Meesterbox, you are right in your statement. Don't let them get away with this.
    Justthree , You and the others are the bullies. WWAAA!! I don't want change.
    You are right though as you do have the right for recall no matter how stupid the reason.
    BRING IT ON!!!!

  • Always Curious posted at 1:58 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Always Curious Posts: 524


    Yes, thwarting.

    Educating about the issue, no.

  • Justthree posted at 12:57 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Justthree Posts: 68

    Are we discussing the same Mike Kennedy, who has berated citizens from his bully pulpit on the council? The same Mike Kennedy, who pledged to keep American Legion Baseball at McEuen? The way that people view Mr. Kennedy couldn't be more diverse. Mike Kennedy is perhaps the most divisive public figure this city has ever seen. Although, he continues to play the martyr, this recall is about rights and representation. If you are a Mike Kennedy supporter, that is your right. If you support Woody McEvers, Deanna Goodlander and Sandi Bloem, that is also your right. My right is to support the recall. I don't think that is being unreasonable.

  • JonnyQPubic posted at 12:52 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    JonnyQPubic Posts: 325

    @Close Enough: I also wonder how many of the recall supporters actually live in CDA.

  • Jenny posted at 12:49 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Jenny Posts: 47

    I have had several people call today and ask me to post this comment: "Mike we voted for you the first time and it will not happen again". They will all sign the petition for recall.

  • meesterbox posted at 12:31 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    meesterbox Posts: 183

    No thwarting, just educating. I have said it before - I am not here to change the minds of you that are staunchly for the recall - you can't reason with unreasonable people - I will continue to post in hopes that those undecided citizens that stumble upon these comments get learn from what I post and direct them where they can find the answers. I might not have them, but I know where citizens can go to learn the facts.

    Upgrading McEuen is a good thing for our city and if you think that it isn't, then I recommend that you check out the McEuen Currents on the park website and look at all the great amenities we will receive.

    I would also recommend going back and learning all the things that Kennedy did in relation to the park. Meeting with the concerned groups, asking questions, getting facts, making informed decisions. Good things! I am impressed with his demeanor and attention to details when it comes to the matters before the council. Thanks Mike!

  • Always Curious posted at 11:41 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Always Curious Posts: 524

    @meesterbox, just because you don't like the reason for the recall and it doesn't fall within your accepted list of reasons doesn't invalidate it as a legal and very important process component of something called "checks and balances".

    Your attempts at information bias have been frequent and consistent touting the benefits of LCDC, fine, but guess what, this recall is about the park project. The park project, that is all, not the library, KROC, trails etc.

    By your attempts to thwart others from their rights as citizens you ARE taking away others rights and that is upsetting.

    Think outside the box of your political bias.

  • kimknerl posted at 11:35 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    kimknerl Posts: 286

    Unethical fits, and you still have your right to vote against a recall, just as I have mine to vote in favor.

  • WilliamWMiller posted at 11:33 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    WilliamWMiller Posts: 106

    The Kennedy name carries leadership and tradition. Move over here if they don't like you there.

  • meesterbox posted at 11:13 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    meesterbox Posts: 183

    We have an election process where citizens are free to vote for candidates. If you think someone isn't doing there job to your liking, this is when you get show your opinion.

    A recall, while it is a part of our system, it is usually used to remove someone from office that has been unethical, immoral, or committed a crime, not because you feel like you didn't get your way.

    By initiating a recall, you are potentially taking away my rights as a voter and that is upsetting.

  • kimknerl posted at 10:59 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    kimknerl Posts: 286

    It’s sad how when we exercise our right to recall it is labeled as an attack. Some may feel we should just sit back and take whatever is thrown at us, that we should just accept mistakes that were made in previous elections and not speak up for the many whose voices are not being heard. Not me.

  • Jullee posted at 10:58 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Jullee Posts: 566

    Have you ever noticed that whenever ( which is all the time) Kennedy always manages to bring up his pathetic law suit ...Whine Whine Whine..Get over it Mike...We are really tired of hearing you whine.
    Shouldn't you be glad ? Excited ? Stop with the poor ME !

  • Close Enough posted at 10:54 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Close Enough Posts: 134

    @DeNiles: I wonder how many of the '500' anti-recall supporters actually live in CDA?

  • DeNiles posted at 10:44 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    The 'anti-recall' folks claim to have some 500 participants....... Probably the same 3 people who post on HBO and their 497 pseudonyms.

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  • Betrayer of Hope posted at 10:13 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Betrayer of Hope Posts: 135

    I still don't understand why people are so against a completely legal recall effort when the election was fradulant and violated state election laws. (even if you disagree with that conclusion, you could at least support your fellow citizen's rights, or at the very least respect them)

    Oh yeah...

    People like that are called hacks, or shills.

  • CClavin posted at 10:02 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    CClavin Posts: 221

    IMI-UBU, you really make no sense in your blog and for heavens sake TAKE YOUR CAPS LOCK OFF.

  • meesterbox posted at 9:59 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    meesterbox Posts: 183

    Violating the law? No one is going to show up with pitch forks and torches, but being that I like law - you forgot an important item. You see the (ii) in front of what you posted? That means it is (subset) contingent upon what is above it. So in this case - if someone is violating 34-1714 (h) then subset (i) - (iii) are valid. Since those opposing the recall are not offering, proposing, or threatening for any pecuniary reward or consideration, then there are no laws being broken.

    But while you are throwing out Idaho Statues - check out (d) of that same section.

  • Close Enough posted at 9:54 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Close Enough Posts: 134

    IMI-UBU: All caps? iT wOuLd bE mUcH cOoLeR iF yOu TyPed LiKe ThIs InStEad.

    I look forward to watching your attempt to rally others and push your foes to the curb. Good luck with that, champ.

  • Rogue Cop posted at 9:50 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2371

    Kennedy thinks everything is about him. A classic egomaniac. Does he think that if he was in the minority in the McEuen project the recall would not be going forward. He chose to be where he is and now he wants to be the victim.

    Here's a hint, Kennedy......stop trying to impose your will on others for your own personal financial gain.

    You 4 could have avoided all of this by realizing that there is a strong objection to the project, so an advisory vote could quell the all of the discord. If you are confident that the public supports the plan, then have a vote. Politics? Heck yeah it's about politics. So was your election and so is your handling of the McEuen plan.

  • Brent Regan posted at 9:38 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 740

    IMI-UBU & Arsaken, if you are done with your screaming tantrum, the venue is set up in accordance with fire and safety regulations to accommodate the candidates and groups that have asked to attend. You may not just show up to set up a booth. Anyone who attempts to crash the event in this manner will be shown the door by security.

    If you wish to come and participate while respecting the rights of others then you are welcome to attend.

  • Mary Souza posted at 9:22 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Mary Souza Posts: 814

    Recall CdA Headquarters is open in the Sunset Mall, at Hwy 95 and Bosanko. It's just north of Safeway and KMart, but south of Kathleen. We're right near the Las Chavelas restaurant.

    Our hours are 10-2 and 4-7. Come on in and sign the petitions and/or sign up to help. You must be a registered voter in CdA to sign, but anyone at least 18 who lives in Idaho can gather signatures and help.

  • Justthree posted at 9:12 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Justthree Posts: 68

    The ego of Mike Kennedy is sickening. He outspent his challenger 4 to 1 to gain a seat on the city council. Coeur d'Alene taxpayers paid $69,660 for his private legal team to defend the extremely sloppy 2009 election. Those dollars are being spent to have the Kennedy legal team continue to delay this matter being heard by the Idaho Supreme Court. Mr. Kennedy seems to think that a city council seat is a right to which he is entitled. This recall effort is simply about the citizen's right to be heard and their right to representation.

  • IMI-UBU posted at 9:08 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    IMI-UBU Posts: 98


  • JonnyQPubic posted at 9:06 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    JonnyQPubic Posts: 325

    The only thing I know for sure is that no way will I go anywhere near the Conservative Candidates Forum. It's shaping up to be a media circus/mudfest. Have fun.

    Still waiting for a petition for term limits.

  • IMI-UBU posted at 9:04 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    IMI-UBU Posts: 98


  • Arsaken posted at 8:55 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Arsaken Posts: 49

    Hey, guess what, Brent. We're voters too! I guess that means we're invited. Imagine that.

  • Brent Regan posted at 8:38 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 740

    Arsaken writes “Stop the Recall will be collecting supporters and spreading truth at the Conservative Candidates Forum”

    Not if you do not get permission first.

    The Conservative Candidate Forum is a privately sponsored event for Voters, Candidates appearing on the May 15 ballot including Precinct Committeemen and INVITED guests.

  • Spikey posted at 8:37 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Spikey Posts: 387

    So Mike, this is all about you. What a joke, why do you think you are that important? Such a puffed up little man.

  • LTRLTR posted at 8:31 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171


  • justinian posted at 8:25 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    justinian Posts: 318

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  • lexacon posted at 8:16 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    lexacon Posts: 80

    These people complain about it being all about politics, well no Sh^&! What gave you the first clue, Mr.Kennedy? I was one of your supporters, now I am trying to recall you! I even helped during one of your campaigns, not again!

  • I Carry posted at 8:13 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    I Carry Posts: 559

    So, how does a regular guy get in touch with CDARecall? I would like to support the movement. Got a number--address--secret meeting place??

  • DeNiles posted at 7:56 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Mike Kennedy did not have to defend anything. It was the election that was contested and it was the city who was involved in that contest. Mike apparently felt guilty and determined that he needed to retain his own legal counsel and then he threatened to sue the city if they did not reimburse his legal fees. Surprise, Mikey got his way and the citizens paid his almost $70,000.00 private legal bills. Your tax dollars at work (for just a few selected people).

  • milburnschmidt posted at 7:53 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Politicians love to scream its personal when their judgement or decisions are questioned. Perhaps he could sort thru his family tree and find some african american link then he could claim its racial. You are in politics Mr Kennedy and its all politics learn to live with it as you use it yourself.

  • rexaroni posted at 7:51 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    rexaroni Posts: 190

    The headline "Deja vu all over again" is redundant. Thanks, I feel better now.

  • LTRLTR posted at 7:40 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Search City Council Minutes for Dec 7, 2010 and on page 5 you will find the City did pay Councilman Kennedy's private attorney after he made his threat.

    "the Council accept the proposed settlement of $69,660."

    How many attorney's did it take to defend 3 votes?

  • mister d posted at 7:30 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    I won't go to the consevative candidate forum but I will sign the petition.

  • justinian posted at 7:28 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    justinian Posts: 318

    Sara is funny, "spreading truth"! And yet she and her little friend Jenn delete posts, refuse to answer questions and block people on their Facebook pages. Odd behavior for those in pursuit of "truth".

  • LTRLTR posted at 7:25 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171


    INVOCATION - City of Coeur d'Alene

    Thank you Council Member Kennedy for the reminder that you obtained your own personal attorney and then threatened the City with a tort claim if they did not pay you. This was done despite all the attorneys the City had working the 2009 election case. How much did the City pay you?

  • LTRLTR posted at 7:11 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171


    The Councilman is NOT telling you the TRUTH. He did not win by 5 votes. Please read the below article from last year.

    Illegal voters fined, sentenced
    Hayden couple voted illegally in 2009 Cd'A city election

    Posted: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 11:06 am, Mon Aug 8, 2011.

    Illegal voters fined, sentenced By TOM HASSLINGER/Staff writer The Coeur d' Alene Press | 8 comments

    COEUR d'ALENE - A Hayden couple was each fined $200 and sentenced to three months of probation for illegally voting in the Nov. 3, 2009, Coeur d'Alene general election.

    Ronald Prior and Susan Harris both entered Alford pleas on July 15 after each was charged with one count of illegally registering to vote.

    An Alford guilty plea means the defendant doesn't admit guilt but admits there is enough evidence for a conviction. Both judgments were withheld, according to Kootenai County 1st District Court records, which allows for the conviction to be dismissed upon satisfactory completion of probation.

    Trial was scheduled to begin last week.

    The 2009 general election was a heavily litigated case between Seat 2 City Councilman Mike Kennedy, and Jim Brannon, who had run against the incumbent.

    Kennedy retained his seat, although the vote difference was trimmed from five to three during a week-long trial that charged illegal votes had been cast.

  • RadRev2D posted at 7:07 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    RadRev2D Posts: 372

    Common ground is found in Mike Kennedy and the people who hold his leash.

    Want to make better???
    One crumb you GOBs could throw is the donation by Charlie Nipp et al of his unethical land holdings north of Front Street coupled with a municipal ban in perpetuity of engaging any entity Charlie, Steve Meyer, or Parkwood Properties is associated with from even one more LCDC-GOB land or development transaction in Kootenai County. It is time to break the stranglehold...if it can be broken.

    Said property could be used for a multilevel parking structure.

    Grow up Mikey. Bark at someone else.
    You will soon be fired from City Council chambers as a gate keeper.

  • Jenny posted at 6:43 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Jenny Posts: 47

    5:00 PM? These people evidently don't realize their reckless spending is what the people of this country are trying to stop. What ever amount of money you give these people they will spend it plus more. Look at the national debt approaching 16 trillion dollars. GSA - enough said. As somebody posted earlier we are taking back our country one city at a time.

  • Why Not posted at 5:17 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Why Not Posts: 5326

    “Birds of a feather flock together”

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