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Posted: Friday, June 22, 2012 5:45 am

Have you ever observed the married couple living the “perfect” life in the perfect neighborhood? Big, beautiful home, nice cars, all the toys, vacations and seemingly unlimited income are all the outsider can see. When the divorce is filed it is clear that the “perfect” life isn’t all that it seemed.

The couple couldn’t afford the life they lived. The family ignored all the obvious signs and chose instead to continue spending as if the problem didn’t exist. Clearly the parties stopped communicating and the bottom fell out of the relationship. Each party began to blame the other and question why. Each had their own view on the subject and mediation wasn’t an option for at least one of the parties. The short term and long term debt caught up with their dwindling income and they couldn’t earn or borrow their way out of the dilemma. Extended families on both sides weighed in and began to take positions without a clear understanding as to the real facts and reasons behind the situation. It became very personal and firm positions were taken on both sides. Bankruptcy and divorce were the final outcome.

The above scenario is little different than what the recall candidates are currently doing to the citizens of Coeur d’Alene. They are creating a bad marriage inside our city. The recall candidates’ decision not to listen to what the public was, and is, saying has caused an avoidable divorce within our city. Attempts at mediation through a public advisory vote were not allowed. Appeals for legitimate compromise were ignored. All the many attempts at communication failed and the recall candidates took an intransigent position.

It became a case of “we know what is best for the people” even though appeals to hear what the public really wanted fell on deaf ears. These candidates knew that if a public vote were to take place the project would either be canceled or clearly scaled way back. The amount of money, time and effort spent by a very few individuals and businesses to block the recall were beyond all reason.

Clearly there was a great deal more at stake than a recall. Those that were to benefit the most including the downtown businesses and their various associations, the residents of McEuen Towers and Parkside, the no-bid contractors and architectural firm, the City and its overpaid executives (19 above $100K a year), and the mayor and all her personal and professional cronies mounted a campaign to defeat the recall. Every possible political, financial and personal marker was called in and the Recall CDA campaign faced a nearly impossible task. Knowing that Recall CDA had enough signatures to put the recall on the ballot, a technicality in striking signatures whose address didn’t match the registrar’s address (even though they did live within the city) was used to keep enough votes from being counted.

The City Council is spending our tax dollars like it is their personal bank account to do with as they wish. They have and continue to do so. Contractually committing to completing phase 1 will insure their ability to continue with the additional phases and complete the master plan that is currently scheduled to cost nearly $40 million. They don’t know, nor do they care, if the public wants to spend this insane amount of money on the McEuen project, or even if the public wants the current changes proposed to the park.

The personal and professional benefits to those opposing the recall and supporting the McEuen master plan can’t be disputed. But, isn’t there more to Coeur d’Alene than just the downtown corridor? What about the rest of our city, especially when it is all our tax dollars supporting a limited number of citizens and businesses, which doesn’t seem quite fair. It isn’t their tax dollars, it is all the taxpayers’.

Sure, we will end up with a different, but not necessarily better, park without a boat launch or baseball fields. We will never get “equal to or better than” as promised. But we will end up financing and paying for a number somewhere near $40 million through our property taxes, which like the divorcing family above, we can’t afford.

If we, the people, decide to spend what we don’t have through a public vote, then so be it. But this is clearly not the case, since no public vote is being granted and we have no input into the decision. The only difference is that we, the people, get to pay for all the indulgent spending when we don’t have the discretionary income to do so. Our property taxes are going up when our property values are going down. This has been true for quite some time and there seems to be no end in sight.

The majority of our citizens chose to ignore the reality and severity of the situation and demonstrated their continuing apathy towards the system, by not getting involved in the recall. But nearly 5,500 voiced their position by standing up and signing the petition for recall. During the recall campaign a significant number of people indicated their support of the recall, but would not sign until it was in the voting booth. It was clear that many of these individuals felt they could not take a position because of the potential exposure of their names. Intimidation may be the reason, but you can make the call. Well, we will have to wait until November 2013 to vote. But, we will vote!

Forewarned is forearmed. Rest assured there will be additional phases to the McEuen project and the approved McEuen plan will be a reality. There will be increased taxes and budgeted items shifted to cover the real costs of the project. Shifting dollars for the budgeted 15th Street improvements into Front Street only means moving these costs into a different budget year and more taxes.

Hopefully we can finally engage our citizens and get them involved. Those in office count on the fact that we usually get only 20 percent of the voters to turn out to exercise their constitutional rights, so these elected officials don’t fear the backlash of the public. We need to prove them wrong! After all, the money being spent is the taxpayers’. How can we not care about how nearly $40 million of our money potentially is going to be spent?

With Coeur d’Alene having the highest unemployment rate in all the State of Idaho and an ever increasing property tax rate makes for a very unhealthy economic state. This isn’t the way to attract businesses to our beautiful city. Businesses will turn away from Coeur d’Alene due to this very unhealthy economic state and a labor pool that is being driven away, not as a result of the recall effort. The recall group was, and will continue to, support the right for a public vote when such a large commitment of public funds is at stake.

This isn’t personal and has never been. We are not a band of disgruntled individuals with a personal agenda, but a group of concerned citizens attempting to support the constitutional rights that we believe are not being granted to use in the City of Coeur d’Alene. Remember, free government requires active citizens, which right now we don’t have.

Jim Doty is a Coeur d'Alene resident and President/CEO and Managing Partner of Northern Advisory Group, Inc.

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  • manman posted at 2:13 am on Wed, Jul 25, 2012.

    manman Posts: 46

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  • the floorist posted at 3:03 pm on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.

    the floorist Posts: 331

    "...Verbal abuse includes the following: countering, withholding, discounting, verbal abuse disguised as a joke, blocking & diverting, accusing & blaming, judging & criticizing, trivializing, undermining, threatening, name calling, chronic forgetting, ordering, denial of anger or abuse, and abusive anger...." LTRLTR

    ...don't forget baiting...my personal favorite and 'speshealitee...

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 2:38 pm on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    They called in a favor to Uncle Ben. Instant majority real or not.

     
  • chouli posted at 1:26 pm on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.

    chouli Posts: 1270

    I'm puzzled by how the anti-recall group thinks they have a majority of citizen support .
    How do they quantify that support?
    How do you know how many citizens actually "declined to sign" or just ignored D2S and didn't care?
    You spout you are in the majority...so plz tell us how you know this?
    There were more total signatures against the 4 than they received in their last election.
    Because your group advocated "doing nothing" doesn't mean you have more support.

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 9:58 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Verbal abuse includes the following: countering, withholding, discounting, verbal abuse disguised as a joke, blocking & diverting, accusing & blaming, judging & criticizing, trivializing, undermining, threatening, name calling, chronic forgetting, ordering, denial of anger or abuse, and abusive anger

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 9:40 am on Sat, Jun 23, 2012.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Arsaken:

    Are you helping or hurting our community with your verbal abuse?

     
  • Arsaken posted at 10:31 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Arsaken Posts: 49

    Poorly said, Jim. Your analogy was inept. If this is indeed a "bad marriage," then the mayor and three city council members are the ones who will come out ahead in the divorce and end up with custody of the kids. The abusers, the demeanors, the absurdists - aka recallers - are so at fault that San Andreas is taking notes. Truly, if you see this as a bad marriage, then take up with a younger relation (I hear there are plenty of burgeoning towns in California or Alaska or Estonia) and leave us in peace.

    It is absolutely personal. You are disgruntled. You have a personal agenda. You say "free government requires active citizens, which right now we don't have." I say right now we DO have active citizens, enough to balance out a completely misguided and unjust recall effort. Just because people are active in a way you don't want them to be, doesn't mean they aren't active in the right way.

     
  • vernwrites posted at 9:12 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    vernwrites Posts: 9

    Well said Jim. Your analogy was apt. I do appreciate either side of any issue sticking to the issue. The arguementum ad hominum responses are wasted words. As to communicating with the city council; I've tried sending emails to the whole bunch...(before the last election). I was ignored by all but Mike Kennedy. He and I disagree on any number of things, but the man will call and conduct a dialog with me.
    It's time to begin planning for next year's election. And continue to be vocal in an attempt to keep Sandy and her minions form committing the city to too much additional tax burden.

     
  • bionic man posted at 6:24 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    It's too bad we can't delete the comments from the outsiders just as they did from the signatures. Definately make for an interesting comment section.

     
  • the floorist posted at 4:14 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    the floorist Posts: 331

    Your boardie deflections are as bad as your pattycake partner, Humanist...

    Timeless, I never posted anything to you about Silver Beach. Obviously though, you knew I was right because I posted it in black and white and it is a fact. But I understand the need to deny, being as you're so extra specialto yourself since that's all you really have in your life to share with...

    ...keep it real sweetpea, and have a joyous summer...Outastater hater... >EG<

     
  • justinian posted at 1:54 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    justinian Posts: 318

    "how can you logically say that..."

    Logic? They don't need no steenkin logic there, they are "The Pretty People", they make up their own "facts", they demonize those who disagree with them and they congratulate each other on how smart and special they truly are.

    Just sayin'

    Just

     
  • Jullee posted at 1:51 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Jullee Posts: 539

    McNasdy...YOU ARE SOOOOO WRONG. Judging before knowledge is not a good thing.
    You do not know what I stand for or believe in. You can not group everyone together or that would make you ??? Hummm. should I make an assumption of your beliefs ?

     
  • chouli posted at 1:31 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    chouli Posts: 1270

    wrong-a-roo McNasdy
    how can you logically say that...like we are all the same people?? ridiculous assumption.
    we are not. actually we are all very different people from different political affiliations, some of us without any political affiliation at all.
    some are better off and others are poor, some in the middle.
    our ages vary widely.
    we don't vote against everything. ridiculous statement again.
    we don't think alike or have all similar interests...except for a few...and that is to have our local government follow the laws and listen to the people. not have special interests catered too above the average citizen.

     
  • justinian posted at 12:53 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    justinian Posts: 318

    "I was going to post a comment refuting virtually everything in the article ..."

    But you didn't - and cannot. Just like Meester failed, you would as well.

     
  • McNasdy posted at 12:48 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    McNasdy Posts: 17

    The Pro Recall people are the same people who vote against all progress; school levies, parks, community centers ect..

     
  • Jullee posted at 12:09 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Jullee Posts: 539

    Jim, this is a very nice observation /comparison , most of us know that it was written before the Mayor and planning group revised the boat launch /parking plan. Which they did under pressure. but nice to know that they are willing to look at logic . We'll see how it really plays out as their plans seems to be constantly changing . Too bad they appear to be unorganized.

     
  • cd1013 posted at 12:07 pm on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    cd1013 Posts: 159

    Wow, talk about beating a dead horse!!
    The Recall as it stands was unsuccessful. Not in that over 5000 signatures were generated but that not enough could be validated and that's a whole other story. But what I always find odd is this constant opinion that more people want it than not. Unless one is blind, deaf & dumb, the election of 2011,( and Kennedy's squeaker win in 2009) should be a clear sign that there's a BIG opposition to this renovation. Had Kennedy's election gone the other way the Mayor's "deciding" vote would be a mute point. As it stands the Mayor has proven that she is not for all the citizen's in this community for 1) allowing funds to be diverted from other projects to her pet project and 2) not allowing an advisory vote which has been requested from the people in their votes,as of the 2011 election who voted in anti renovation councilmembers. Who then requested an advisory vote, which was denied by the Mayor's deciding vote. Which IMHO shows her to be a hypocrite, having allowed them in the past when it suits her needs.

    So I say congrats to those who think they've "won", you've dodged a bullet so to speak. But as you stand on the shore and watch the tide go way out be ready for what's about to happen at the next election. It will be a Tsunami, OUR voice will be heard and I doubt you can dodge that. Now I may be wrong and time will tell but if the last two elections are any indication the swell is rising.
    Now to quote,"Timeless", "time to enjoy the summer."
    Be well and be safe.

     
  • Matty posted at 11:46 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Matty Posts: 9

    WOW Jim, very well articulated! That's exactly how I feel about the whole thing.......I've seen firsthand the damage these council folks have inflicted on the East Sherman Avenue neighborhood, all because they didn't get their way. (And I voted for Mike Kennedy and Mayor Bloem!) The backhanded techniques these people employ have forever tarnished how I feel about living in Coeur d'Alene, not to mention destroying any faith or trust I have in city government. And for those childish anti-recall people, yes, I will be moving out of the city as soon as possible. I have improved my home and my neighborhood, and just like the council people had hoped, I will lose money on my house because of the council-induced deterioriation of my neighborhood. I know of several new families moving to Idaho, and they chose to live in a neighboring city. So, "pro jobs, pro growth council" how's the McEuen upgrade workin' for ya? This city now has a reputation of discord and retribution. Thanks to all who worked so tirelessly for the Recall; I am proud to know there are people who have integrity and courage. And thanks Jim for an excellent letter!

     
  • John Austin posted at 11:02 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    John Austin Posts: 98

    I was going to post a comment refuting virtually everything in the article but Meesterbox did it, and did it well.

    Like Councilman Gookin stated on Tuesday, it is time to move on. instead of a divorce I hope for a reconciliation and better communitication between the parties. If for no other reason, just like avoiding a divorce, do it for the kids.

     
  • stebbijo posted at 10:47 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    stebbijo Posts: 49

    It isn't about the recall anymore.I have accepted the final outcome.

    I know two other folks who were also rejected at no fault of their own. There is a flaw in the system and this petition drive is bringing it all out - people are worried about their vote in regards to state and federal elections - it's more than this recall. It is about your vote in general, state and federal as well and how it is modified or handled without the voter's knowledge.

    Our 911 update did something that skewed our address on the state database site AND Idaho Votes. Our guess, is this may not be only home to the city of CdA - it may be statewide. However, no one knows for certain , yet.

    My husband and I (signatures) would have been rejected if we had not contacted a Representative and a Senator to fix ours. The other folks just don't know and did not catch it at the Idaho Votes site. Any correspondence from the county would not be helpful because it goes to the incorrect address.

    For folks who did not sign the recall - I advise that you make sure your voter registration is also correct.

     
  • meesterbox posted at 10:41 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    meesterbox Posts: 183

    Mr. Doty – I like you analogy of a divorce. The only problem is that it isn’t the City or its Council that has caused the rift in our relationship that could lead to a potential separation (which some might argue, has already happened). It is citizens such as yourself. You say…the parties stopped communicating and the bottom fell out of the relationship, but this is not true. The city has not stopped communicating or listening, but those that strongly supported the recall (Souza, Sims, Orzell, yourself, etc.) quit listening a long time ago. I will show you what I am talking about.

    I have addressed the Council numerous times and they listen and I consider myself part of ‘the public’. The citizens of our city told the Council that we don’t want a public vote. More people spoke at the Council meeting against a public vote than for it, so this does mean that they were listening, but you say, …decision not to listen to what the public was, and is, saying has caused an avoidable divorce within our city. Were you not listening?

    At the Council meeting on June 5, 2012, Wendy Gabriel stated for the public that Professional services by state law do not follow the bidding process but rather the process by law is completed by a “Request for Qualifications” which the City did complete and had a selection committee review the proposals received from four different firms, but you say the city just gave project tothe no-bid contractors and architectural firm Were you not listening?

    The Stop the Recall campaign was mounted by two mothers motivated by wanting a positive future for their children, but you say the mayor and all her personal and professional cronies mounted a campaign to defeat the recall. Were you not listening?

    One June 8th the instructions for how Cliff Hayes and team were going to verify the signatures was posted, showing that address must match for the signature to be valid. Also there are State laws that say petitioners are not authorized to register voters. So I am not sure why your petitioners would be authorized to correct the address of a registered voter when they legally can’t even register them, but you say …a technicality in striking signatures whose address didn’t match the registrar’s address (even though they did live within the city) was used to keep enough votes from being counted. Were you not listening?

    It has been said time and time again that the approved plan for the park is $14.2M. The Mayor even addressed this live on June 19, 2012 during public comments at the Council meeting, stating that there are items from the original plan that have been permanently removed, like the lower level of the parking garage that can’t be included later, but you say they are going to complete the master plan that is currently scheduled to cost nearly $40 million. Were you not listening?
    The tax money that goes towards LCDC only comes from those that live in the URD (less than 10% of CdA citizens live in the the Lake City URD). They are a catalyst for economic vitalization within our city have been doing so (Library, Riverstone, Ed Corridor, etc.). This has been explained time and time again, but you said, it is all our tax dollars supporting a limited number of citizens and businesses. Were you not listening?
    Look at the current design, there is a boat launch, but you say a park without a boat launch. Were you not listening?

    The key to a successful marriage is communication, not just talking, but listening. So, Mr. Doty, were you not listening?

     
  • Not4sale posted at 10:39 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Not4sale Posts: 140

    I for one am pleased that the Coeur d' Dwayne Press printed this letter, albeit after the recall effort was defeated.

     
  • IJLmom posted at 10:37 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    IJLmom Posts: 12

    I have to say that I am really excited about the new park. I don't live in CdA so I don't have to pay for it. I get to benefit from the new park with out the attachment. I am so sorry for those of you that do have to. I can understand why the local businesses and of course the nice people that live in the towers would want it. There is a lot of money living in those towers. It's interesting to see how many businesses come and go down there. The question is why do the people that are against the new park support the local businesses down town? Their convictions are not as strong as the local business owners and the nice people who have the finances to live in the towers. Do you know how much money it cost to purchase a residence in the tower? Way to go to the Mayor. I do see her winning the next election because she will have all that finical aid behind her.

     
  • CHSdad posted at 10:31 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    CHSdad Posts: 369

    Jim, what constitutional right allows you to assume that elected officials aren't representative and that the failed recall effort somehow means that the council are failing the voters?

     
  • Timeless posted at 9:22 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    Thaddeus:
    😊
    Commenting on this stuff has really begun to bore me, anyway. The recall is over and that is where I got sucked in to commenting on these stories in the first place.
    I would like to hear more about any rumor that the boat launch at Silver Beach has been nixed, however. Rather than rely on tainted info here, I will go to the source and ask.
    I' m done here.
    Time to enjoy the summer.....

     
  • Thaddeus posted at 9:07 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Thaddeus Posts: 232

    That's all right Timeless. Take it as a compliment. I have some idiot that follows me around on this site and keeps calling Thommy in a pathetic outing attempt. Kinda cool in a weird sort of way. There's no reasoning with it so I just chalk it up as a water head with a toy. Besides, it's nice knowing that I'm living rent free in it's head............... ;-)

     
  • Timeless posted at 8:58 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    Floor: **meds not mess ( typo)

     
  • Timeless posted at 8:47 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    Floor:

    Well, I have suspected it all along, but now you have confirmed your craziness if you think that I am the Mayor. Hahahahahahahahaaa!
    I don't know anything about the proposed replacement boat launch being shot down, tell me more.

    Take your mess sweetheart.

     
  • chouli posted at 8:45 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    chouli Posts: 1270

    thx for intel, Floorist
    I have him on ignore as well
    LOL

     
  • mister d posted at 8:38 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    How much is this going to cost for the new mayor and council next year to fix the mess the current "leaders" have put us in. Put the money where it benefits the whole city, not downtown only where most locals do not shop anyway. Ever hear of Walmart, Target, even look at where the new Federal Courthouse is located. Downtown is for tourists.

     
  • the floorist posted at 8:33 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    the floorist Posts: 331

    BTW...Miss Chouli...

    RC is baiting you and I over at the "shooting suspect" thread...

    ...I have him on ignore...

    rugg

     
  • the floorist posted at 8:31 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    the floorist Posts: 331

    The 3rd st. boat launch is staying put because (their) last bastion of hope for finding an affordable and suitable location for a new one has been shot down...therefore a compromise for parking has to made...

    ...I heard it first hand...


    Now, was that so hard, hunny?


    Hope to see some of yewz at "Hello Dolly" tonite...the wife's b-day today too...

    Have a magnificent Ironman weekend, Neverland!

     
  • Mary Souza posted at 8:25 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Mary Souza Posts: 790

    Very well stated, Jim. You were part of the Recall process and saw firsthand the true motivations and determination of the volunteers and the signers. We are all looking for good government! It's something that has been missing from our town for so long that many people have forgotten what honestly responsive, accountable good government looks like.

     
  • chouli posted at 8:17 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    chouli Posts: 1270

    more details plz floorist

     
  • the floorist posted at 8:10 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    the floorist Posts: 331

    A spineless mayor that spews vitriol on message boards and calls fellow (opposing opinionated) council members jerks...

    ...real classy, ma'am...

    So, c'mon...tell them why you had your boat parking meltdown...you shoot your mouth off about everything else...

     
  • chouli posted at 8:08 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    chouli Posts: 1270

    Timeless: I was and continue to be a registered voter in that precinct.
    I was before the name change and continue to be after. Did the election worker not know this would be a problem? It's her job to know.

    An update to an existing registration is NOT a new registration.

     
  • Timeless posted at 7:59 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    Chouli:

    My guess is you just identified the problem. After you signed the petition, You "went to the Elections Office and submitted a name change before the end of the signature gathering period. "

    Same day you signed or before the end of the signature gathering period? It does make a difference, read the Code.

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 7:54 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Timeless: LOL :)

     
  • chouli posted at 7:47 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    chouli Posts: 1270

    Thank you, Mr. Doty.
    Very well said.

    Unlike you, this has become personal for me as of last night when I viewed the petition signature results and found that mine was invalidated unjustly. I intend to go to the courthouse and find out exactly why this mistake was made. (just one more inconvenience for me)

    I have been registered at my address since 2009. I haven't changed my address. I have voted in previous elections in my precinct. I made sure my name was exactly as signed on the petition and went to the elections office and submitted a name change to match my petition signature prior to the end of the signature gathering period. I explained to the worker at the elctions office exactly why I was there.

    Apparently the county's flying monkeys were so bent on invalidating signatures that an update to an existing valid registration must have been perceived as a new registration and look, it's dated after the signature on the petition. Don't bother noticing that it's just an update. just invalidate it like the rest and move on...

    Yes, it's now very personal for me. Their incompetence has taken away my signature.
    How many others have been invalidated incorrectly?? This now makes me wonder.

     
  • Timeless posted at 7:44 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    LTRLTR:

    Good, your first step to divorcing the City would be to move out.
    Adios!

     
  • Thaddeus posted at 7:27 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Thaddeus Posts: 232

    "Jim Doty is a Coeur d'Alene resident and President/CEO and Managing Partner of Northern Advisory Group, Inc."


    And the acronym would be N.A.G............................... That's appropriate.

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 7:15 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Mr. Doty,

    Using your example of a "bad marriage" is perfect. It's a "no win situation". I want a divorce from Mayor Bloem, Council Member Kennedy, Goodlander and McEvers. :))

     
  • Flash Gordon posted at 7:08 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Flash Gordon Posts: 1280

    Jim.......as one who opposes the McEuen Plan to move the baseball field and close the 3rd street dock and connecting parking spaces and also refused to sign the recall petition I must must say you make , and the recall movement makes, some very persuasive arguments for your and "their" position. But what undermines the credibility of this article and the recall movement in general is that absurd first sentence in your closing paragraph.

    This is and has been the most fractious contentious issue facing our beloved city since the S O S movement back in the day. This is worse and has really divided our community for years to come. I have no doubt that subsequent elections are going to change the political make up of our city council and that more people like Steve Adams will fill those positions. The implications for city employees and public institutions in general are ominous down the road.

    This all could have easily been avoided if the mayor and council had allowed and supported an advisory vote. The decision not to do that was arrogant and ill advised. And now, well, here we are........and Mr Doty says this is not personal and never has been....really?

     
  • DeNiles posted at 6:56 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    lola123.......... Facts? Go to Riverstone and look at the brand new, empty, bankrupted structures. It is blighted. A wonderful example of our URD improving the community. A fact you can go and touch.

    As for this letter - I disagree with this analogy. Married couples who back into relationship ending debt often do so unintentionally. There is nothing unintentional about the Mayor and her agenda. She understands full well exactly what she is doing, and why. It was no mistake.

     
  • lola123 posted at 6:39 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    lola123 Posts: 338

    Same old whine, different mouth. This article as usual only shows your shortsighted lack of ability to see the bigger picture. Again, another letter long on rhetoric, short on actual facts.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 6:39 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    100% RIGHT ON TARGET!

    My question is, since there were days left before the official end of the validation process, why wasn't there a recount after the voter registration database was fixed?

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 6:11 am on Fri, Jun 22, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 618

    Excellent article Mr. Doty!. Your perspicuity is impressive.

     
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