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Man issued $50K bond, no contact order for alleged hate crime

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Posted: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 9:28 am, Fri Nov 16, 2012.

COEUR d'ALENE - A Coeur d'Alene man faces up to life in prison stemming from an alleged hate crime incident on Saturday.

Joel T. Diekhoff, 29, faces five years in jail and up to $5,000 on one count of felony malicious harassment - or hate crime. With two convicted felonies on his record, Diekhoff qualifies as a persistent offender, upping the possible incarceration term to life.

Magistrate Judge Penny Friedlander issued a $50,000 bond for Diekhoff, as well as a no-contract order with the alleged victim, Demetrius K. Lee, 39, during the suspect's first court appearance Monday.

"The seriousness of the offense is significant here before the court," the judge said. "I don't think (the bond amount is) unreasonable."

Diekhoff has two felonies on his record, including for theft in 2000 and a felon in possession of firearms in Washington in 2005.

Diekhoff told Friedlander that the harassment charge wasn't warranted.

"I kind of feel like this thing is pretty out of line," he told the judge. "I do have an 8-month-old daughter. I'm currently working full time, I go to school full time, my fiancee is pregnant. I live a pretty normal life. I live right here in Coeur d'Alene. I'm not a threat to the community, I feel."

Police reports of the incident vary.

Lee told officers while he was walking by Diekhoff's apartment, on the 200 block of S. 19th Street, on his morning walk to Sanders Beach, Diekhoff stared at him. When Lee walked back to his room at the Lake Drive Motel a short time later, Diekhoff allegedly asked Lee: "Are you (expletive) lost?"

Lee said Diekhoff had a small girl in his arms, and described Diekhoff as having several tattoos, including a Swastika symbol.

Lee asked Diekhoff what he had said and Diekhoff repeated it and used racial slurs toward Lee, who is African American.

When Lee asked Diekhoff if he was going to beat him up with a child in his arms, Diekhoff reportedly put the child back in the apartment and returned outside, according to police reports, and a verbal confrontation ensued.

Other people from the apartment joined Diekhoff in his yard. Lee then ran to a nearby friend's house to get a baseball bat, and returned to the street corner.

"Usually I ignore it, it's silly," Lee, a cook, told The Press about the reported racial taunts. "It was dumb of me (to get the bat), my pride got in the way."

After another argument, neighbors came outside, and Lee walked back to his residence and called police, who arrested Diekhoff around 11:30 that morning.

Diekhoff told officers he asked if Lee needed directions because Lee had walked back and forth around the block, as though the man had been lost, and had not swore at or threatened Lee.

Randi Tapia, Diekhoff's fiancee, said Monday that Diekhoff isn't a racist, and does not have Aryan ties. She said he is enrolled and works at North Idaho College, which court records also state.

"He's not Aryan, just because he has a tattoo does not make him Aryan," she said.

She said the neighborhood has had vandalism in the last six weeks, the same time she'd noticed Lee and other new faces around the neighborhood. People with loud music had been disturbing the peace lately too, she said, which used to not be the case. She said her fiancee wouldn't do anything unless provoked.

"We're a hardworking family and it's not what it made it seem like," she said of the news coverage, adding that the bystanders weren't threatening Lee, just watching the children in the yard. The Swastika tattoo, she added, doesn't represent racism.

"It does not mean you're Aryan Nation," she said of the tattoo. "He's had it a long time, and actually, it's just a belief, it has nothing to do with Aryan. It can mean several things actually. In China, it means good luck. It can mean several things. But the cops saw that and took it as, whatever, I don't know."

Lee, who has been incarcerated for forgery in his past, said he moved to Coeur d'Alene to escape gangs in southern California and to make a better life for his family. He said he has lived in the area seven years and is moving his mixed-race children here. He said his friends have been taunted at the 19th Street residence as well. He said racism in Coeur d'Alene is confined to a small pocket population, but seems to be growing recently, although the community has supported him since news of the incident broke.

"I've never felt threatened like that (here)," he said. "People don't want that around here, it's ignorance, it's stupid."

Diekhoff pleaded guilty to misdemeanor battery earlier this year in an unrelated case.

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77 comments:

  • chouli posted at 5:38 pm on Thu, Sep 15, 2011.

    chouli Posts: 1264

    can't people deal with life without involving the police?? sheesh

     
  • chouli posted at 5:34 pm on Thu, Sep 15, 2011.

    chouli Posts: 1264

    well, everyone has an opinion, so here's mine.

    If Diekhoff is guilty of anything then so is Lee. They both argued back & forth and Lee even went to get a bat and returned. That shows more guilt than Diekhoff in my mind. I'm not racist, I'm thinking logically. They either both get charged or neither get charged...you can't charge one without charging the other.
    Years ago it was just an argument, now it's a hate crime and possible life...get real already.

     
  • Anyone posted at 3:49 pm on Wed, Sep 7, 2011.

    Anyone Posts: 1557

    Hey, tattooedMOM,

    No one is saying Diekhoff is a saint. In fact, most believe the knot-head should be punished.

    Unfortunately, your tattoos must be dying your gray matter another color if you think a guy who leaves the scene where he supposedly felt threatened and then returns with a weapon is not guilty of a crime.

    He was brandishing a bat! What part of your tattooed brain doesn't understand that? Suppose you & Lee had an argument. What if he left your house & came back to your doorstep with that bat? Would he be a criminal then?

     
  • sueclanton posted at 5:19 pm on Mon, Sep 5, 2011.

    sueclanton Posts: 37

    WOW!!! Only in North Idaho!! HE, Being African American. Walks back to his place of residence (MOTEL) and returns with a BASEBALL BAT!! Who gets arrested ?? If the AFRICAN AMERICAN was truly afraid of the words that were said, why did he return to his MOTEL and come back with a WEAPON. Something wrong with this picture. I think we need to check his background. Press reports him as living in cda for several years. Where does he work?? Moving his children here from CALIFORNIA> Are we as taxpayers ready to support him and his family?? As a North Idaho Native I feel this is not right. 2 sides to every story, but sticks and stones will break my bones, words will never hurt me. Curious, had he called him white trash with a bat in his hand, would that be racial???

     
  • tattooedMOM posted at 3:50 pm on Mon, Sep 5, 2011.

    tattooedMOM Posts: 5

    Im glad he is in jail...the hate for another race is intolerable. as for not being racist lets check out his womans FB
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001301516339
    now tell me theres no racism going on here! HA! i really like the finger painted pics his kids drew of swastikas! cute real cute

     
  • Phinehas Fury posted at 9:27 am on Sat, Sep 3, 2011.

    Phinehas Fury Posts: 2

    Support Joel's release from jail from this bogus charge. Like this page on FB: "http://www.facebook.com/pages/FREE-JOEL-DIEKHOFF/230555116995812?sk=wall"

     
  • idabilly posted at 8:12 am on Sat, Sep 3, 2011.

    idabilly Posts: 390

    It looks like I have been censored here yet again.

     
  • tempter posted at 6:35 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    tempter Posts: 186

    Why didn't the PRESS report where Demetrius Keeshun Lee lives and works?

    The PRESS was quick to lay out the residence and work address of Diekhoff!

    Balanced reporting???? Never happens in Coeur d'Alene!!!!

    TIME FOR A PRESS UPDATE ON THIS POORLY INVESTIGATED STORY!

     
  • Anyone posted at 6:14 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    Anyone Posts: 1557

    MMMMMMM,

    You are correct about the cops dropping the ball. I alluded to that fact on the opinion article.

    The prosecutor could still bring charges, and hopefully will...if they are interested in true justice.

     
  • MMMMMM posted at 12:55 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    MMMMMM Posts: 2721

    By the way, Anyone, it isn't only the prosecutor and the judge in this situation. It's the arresting officer(s) who didn't recognize that Lee had committed a crime. They didn't arrest him! Why not?

    Lee admitted to getting a bat and returning to the scene. Probably Diekhoff would have been willing to sign for Lee's arrest if the officers didn't actually SEE Lee with the bat. There are plenty of grounds here, if not for a felony arrest, then at least for a misdemeanor arrest. The cops fell down on the job this time.

     
  • MMMMMM posted at 12:43 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    MMMMMM Posts: 2721

    Thanks, tempter. Looks like Lee is just a walking crime.

    Right Anyone! We know the press monitors these postings and they are hiding their heads under their desks. (thought I was going to say something else, huh?) You need to stay hot on their trail and write that letter to the editor so their cowardice can be seen by more of the public. Pretty soon, true to form, the press will take this article away so there won't be any further comments.

    Diekhoff won't be convicted with a jury trial here in North Idaho. The people are going to have to take a stand against the PC folks in law-enforcement, courts and corrections. There's a country western song, "Cadillac Jack Favor" about a similar problem with judges and others in law-enforcement.

     
  • Anyone posted at 8:18 am on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    Anyone Posts: 1557

    Gee, what a shock!

    The CDA Press doesn't follow up and is too afraid to challenge the prosecutor and judge to answer how a felon who returns to the scene with a weapon is not charged.

    The prosecutor, the Press, and the judge have no integrity. They all know there is something wrong here, but they don't have the guts to admit it.

     
  • tempter posted at 7:03 pm on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    tempter Posts: 186

    MMMMMM - thanks - the correct PRESS article was published 12--7-2010 showing Demetrius K. Lee, 39, Coeur d'Alene: One year six months determinate time and three years indeterminate time with credit for time served for probation violation.

    The PRESS link is :

    http://www.cdapress.com/records/public_records/article_3377cefc-6bfb-5a59-b7e8-4211348c97f2.html

     
  • MMMMMM posted at 2:01 pm on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    MMMMMM Posts: 2721

    Thanks westonr and cococo

     
  • westonr posted at 10:43 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    westonr Posts: 20

    --- Demetrius Lee guilty on Battery and Forgery ---

    Isn't Coeur d'Alene lucky to experience this cultural diversity?

    Thanks for the heads up, cococo. You can find this public information by visiting the Idaho Judicial Repository, and entering Demetrius Lee into the name search.

    https://www.idcourts.us/repository/start.do

    The post at Kootenai Asides has been updated with this information.

    http://kootenai.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/demetrius-lee-thugs-in-paradise-coeur-dalene/

     
  • cococo posted at 9:05 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    cococo Posts: 144

    Google "court records Idaho" and click on "Idaho Repository". Enter his name.....and that's just Idaho.
    2 Battery (1 dismissed) & 1 Forgery + the genetic testing and child support stipulation.

     
  • MMMMMM posted at 8:29 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    MMMMMM Posts: 2721

    tempter, I saw that you had previously listed Facebook as a source of information. Do you know about court records or criminal records for Lee, other than Facebook or the CdA Press? And, the probation or parole records information comes from where? Thanks.

     
  • MMMMMM posted at 8:18 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    MMMMMM Posts: 2721

    tempter, I agree that Lee is not an innocent victim here,. Did you get all your info from the cda press?

    Please check the date again - we haven't reached Dec 7, 2011 yet. Or maybe that was just a prediction of his future behavior.

     
  • tempter posted at 6:50 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    tempter Posts: 186

    Lee is on PROBATION for three more years! Has served time for probation violation. The PRESS needs
    to do an updated story fast!

    One more time: Demetrius K. Lee, 39, Coeur d'Alene: One year six months determinate time and three years indeterminate time with credit for time served for probation violation.

    Reported by the PRESS on Dec 7, 2011.

     
  • ancientemplar posted at 8:32 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    ancientemplar Posts: 1146

    Its all on the back of Barry McHugh, who by the way has no criminal prosecution experience. He's from the civil ( yuck, yuck,ha,ha,) side of the courts system.

     
  • tempter posted at 6:56 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    tempter Posts: 186

    The PRESS reported this item on Dec 7, 2011

    Demetrius K. Lee, 39, Coeur d'Alene: One year six months determinate time and three years indeterminate time with credit for time served for probation violation.

    Had this bozo been in jail where he should have been, the taxpayers wouldn't be doing it all over again with this criminal. His FACEBOOK page should have violated his probation.

    The police and probation failed to arrest Lee for violation of probation.

    Some justice in Coeur d'Alene!

     
  • MMMMMM posted at 6:56 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    MMMMMM Posts: 2721

    I agree with you, JoeIdaho.

    Anyone, good idea writing to the CdA Press. They need to be challenged on this. Maybe a letter to the editor would get a response, maybe. At least, if they didn't respond, then the community would see that. Here on this site, it's only us.


     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 4:47 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    truth, you sound pretty soft....whassa matta, thug?
    I agree with all of the posters here who saw the obvious:
    Nitwit (white guy) lips off to black guy.
    Black guy comes back with baseball bat in hand.
    White guy goes to jail w chance of LIFETIME imprisonment.
    Black guy is all happy on his "thug" facebook page.

    But nope, none of this is reverse discrimination.
    Liberals are the best thing that could have EVER happened to the klan & Aryan Nations. No one else could have ever hoped to take the average white person & turn him into a bigot like the liberals have.
    Enlarging & Enraging Society for decades over FALSE racism, liberals will do whatever it takes to keep people hating on each other.

     
  • idabilly posted at 4:24 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    idabilly Posts: 390

    If any of you have doubts, cut and paste this into your browser.

    http://kootenai.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/demetrius-lee-thugs-in-paradise-coeur-dalene/

     
  • The Truth posted at 3:48 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    The Truth Posts: 2193

    The Internet Law of Exclamation:

    "The more exclamation points used in an email (or other posting), the more likely it is a complete lie. This is also true for excessive capital letters."

     
  • tempter posted at 3:33 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    tempter Posts: 186

    Look at the so called victim's FACEBOOK page. Diekhoff's defense team can subpeona Lee's FACEBOOK account and use it in court to show what Diekhoff encountered on the day in question in front of his residence.

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002624523828&sk=wall

    Lee's vitriol covers his wall page statements. Lee is disgusting! And he claims he wanted to get away from gangs and get a fresh start here. What a joke. His mouth sounds like gang smack to me. Then add the swagger of his FACEBOOK page and put a baseball bat in his hands.

    Anyone want him in front of your house?

    The prosecutor is going to have egg his face and the court isn't going to be happy when they find out about the real Demetrius K Lee.

    From his FACEBOOK page he says - Ice cube my favorite rapper!! He likes the song, "Why We Thugs!"

    Thugs is what Diekhoff ran into and is now charged with a criminal complaint. Something is wrong here in Coeur d' Alene!

    PS - Some more rantings from Lee's FACEBOOK page: There were kids present..and I was talking to my cousin Will at the moment on the phone and he calmed me down..but when it is all said and done that inbred is sitting in jail saying " I should have never said s_h_i_t to that guy" I hope his punk a_s_s drop the soap in front of the wrong person!!
    Sunday at 11:17pm via mobile

     
  • Anyone posted at 2:39 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    Anyone Posts: 1557

    So Truth,

    Where am I wrong?

    Are they not BOTH guilty of crimes? Are they not BOTH convicted felons?

    Should they BOTH not be prosecuted?

    Tell me Truth...how is demanding EQUAL justice wrong?

    Tell us all in your infinite wisdom how a person who RETURNS to a scene WITH A WEAPON isn't as guilty as the person spewing verbal hatred?

    Please, Truth....explain.

    As for the Press, I'm sure you'll just sit on your cowardly hands. You don't have the guts to call the prosecutor to the carpet. Thanks for stirring things up and then running away.

     
  • idabilly posted at 2:06 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    idabilly Posts: 390

    Nico, there are a few folks on here that you can't have a logical conversation or debate with because they have no foundation based in reality. "The Truth and Hasss" are the worst offenders.

     
  • westonr posted at 1:52 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    westonr Posts: 20

    I'm sure that Demetrius Lee calling Diekoff a "Inbred Hillbilly" will not result in the same consequences for an African as it would an American such as Diekoff.

    http://kootenai.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/demetrius-lee-facebook.png

     
  • Nicotinegun posted at 1:09 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    Nicotinegun Posts: 1367

    Truth you have got to be one of the most uneducated, uninformed, and inarticulate posters I've seen here. You are one level above Hass.

    Minority has absolutely nothing to do with the issue. In the 1800s in the peak of slavery whites were the minority of the slaves.

    Because you obviously have a lacking in the ability to comprehend what you read I guess I will point out the issue: THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD, THERE IS A HYPOCRISY, THERE IS PLAYING OF FAVORITES, THERE IS AN INJUSTICE, etc. Are you getting any of this or is your brain completly soaked in liberal bong smoke and Democratic Koolaide?

    Address my question below, Brainchild. Debate me.

     
  • The Truth posted at 12:20 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    The Truth Posts: 2193

    It's cool to watch the locals ravenously defend the poor, abused white minority in this story.

     
  • northone9 posted at 12:05 pm on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    northone9 Posts: 278

    Aw shucks cocopuff. I didn't mean to suggest any homa sexschule activity on your part.
    I thought you were a woman................my bad.

     
  • Anyone posted at 11:34 am on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    Anyone Posts: 1557

    To the CDA Press:

    Do you have the cajones to challenge the prosecutor here and ask the tough question: How does a man who believed he was threatened and in imminent danger RETURN TO THE SCENE WITH A BAT not get charged with a crime?

    Both men are guilty of crimes...why are not both men being charged?

    Show some integrity, CDA Press...don't sweep this under the rug. This is a travesty, and you know it! Stop being complicit; step up, and force the prosecutor to be accountable!

    Let's see if the Press has any integrity...I'm not holding my breath, though.

    What do you say, CDA Press?

     
  • Nicotinegun posted at 9:32 am on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    Nicotinegun Posts: 1367

    Tell me if this makes sense: In order to eliminate descrimination against people with hazel eyes, the U.S. government is now mandating that companies hire a certain percentage of people with hazel eyes that directly correlates with the percentage of people with hazel eyes in the surrounding community. If two candidates, with the same or nearly the same qualifications apply, YOU MUST HIRE THE PERSON WITH HAZEL EYES.

    And this: In order to eliminate descrimination against hazel eyed citizens, we are creating a hazel eyed caucus in Congress that will be made up of strictly Congress people with hazel eyes.

    And this: in order to elimiinate descrimination against all people with hazel eyes, Congress shall create a law that prohibits a crime against hazeled eyed people if that crime was committed against them merely for the color of their eyes.

    And: In order to eliminate all descriimination against hazel eyed persons, the Dept. of Education will mandate that all schools teach a portion of their history classes based entirely on the history of hazel eyed people in the U.S. These classes will be based on important discoveries, inventions, and other significant acts performed by people with hazel eyes.


    I could go on, but I would hope you get the point. You can't eliminate racism and descrimination by implementing programs based on race. Especially, if those programs specifically alienate one race or another.

     
  • Nicotinegun posted at 9:23 am on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    Nicotinegun Posts: 1367

    I see actual constructive conversations taking place here, and then I see moronic and imbecile statements made here. Now, a trend I see is this: if you make the argument that programs like Affirmative Action are descriminitory against white males you are labeled an Aryan. I have noticed that if you do make the observation that it appears that black on white crimes are not being followed or properly handled by the court system you are called a racist.

    Doing this, in my opinion, is a response that has been programmed into the minds of college students, minorities, community organizers, and young people in general. It's a boxed response: If you do not agree with the Democrats you are a racist. This is intellectually dishonest, unfair, and frankly lacking in moral and sensical substance.

    JoeIdaho is correct. There has indeed been a rash of racially motivated attacks across the country in the form of flash mobs and those attacks have been blacks attacking whites ONLY. Now, where is the media's usual coverage and claim of HATE CRIME? There is a double standard. That doesn't make me a racist. That doesn't make me full of hate no matter how many times the Black Caucus, Al Sharpton, Sheila Jackson Lee, or any other racially motivated entity says it.

     
  • tempter posted at 9:22 am on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    tempter Posts: 186

    Lee doesn't live in Diekhoff's neighborhood and his actions walking back and forth in front of Diekhoff's residence looks suspicious to me!

    Diekhoff was within his rights to challenge Lee!

    The problem is the Coeur d' Alene Police Department and Prosecutor don't recognize "Neighborhood Watch" when they see it. They are more concerned with a potential "hate crime" or "malicious harrassment" than with burglary!

    CPD and the prosecutor put the shoe on the wrong foot! Lee is the bad guy here, let no one be mistaken about that!

    Lee left the area and returned with a bat! Wasn't that "MALICIOUS HARRASSMENT" and a "HATE CRIME"?

    A male at your front door with a bat is the equilvant of a BONNER'S FERRY GRIZZLY stalking your family. Lee is lucky that Diekhoff didn't go to the next level to defend his residence.

    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then you're probably looking at a duck!

    Lee left a gang infested neighborhood in California. Lee has a forgery history! Is Lee on parole or probation? If so, Lee is in violation of parole or probation.

    Come on - give me a break!

    Why didn't the PRESS report more on Lee?

    Maybe Lee will escape from North Idaho too!

    With his attitude and background, Lee won't fit here.

    I think that's a great idea!


     
  • nicboc posted at 9:13 am on Wed, Aug 31, 2011.

    nicboc Posts: 11

    Really is this really worth arguing about? Lee went to get a bat over a white man asking him if he's lost? Who's the victim here? WOW never seen anything like it.....

     
  • elkman189 posted at 11:32 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    elkman189 Posts: 186

    An old man stopped me in Super 1 last week. H e says nare the bohemians still at it.? I said I hadent read teh paper yet. He said wellc im from Michigian and thereis nothing going on anywheren thatc is not going on there, He says gangs robbers theifs rapest or whatever. I said im so sorry-he said me to.

     
  • MMMMMM posted at 9:53 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    MMMMMM Posts: 2721

    That's funny, Seriously! Like Obama had the black professor and the white cop over for a beer? Not a bad idea. But - - - - - do you honestly think Lee is really man enough to do that? Looks like he has been itching to escalate this situation.

    The real crime here was when Lee returned with a bat! I pointed that out earlier and so did Anyone. A threat with a weapon is a more serious level of threat than verbal name calling. Whether he used the bat or not, the threat was there.

    The judge pointed out the seriousness of the verbal offense, but the paper didn't report that she even noticed the seriousness of the threat with a weapon. What on earth is going on here with law enforcement and judges anyway????? What has happened to common sense?

    We all, as adults, have learned to ignore name-calling, obscene gestures and other obnoxious behavior. Helps to keep down incidents of road rage and other kinds of rage. There's a huge difference between verbal threats, name calling, obscene gestures and REAL threats of physical violence. Mr. Lee escalated the situation from verbal threats to a real threat of violence, and his is the more serious crime.

    For the PC crowd: being OFFENDED is the new thing and has surpassed just plain being a VICTIM as a status symbol in our society.

     
  • Seriously101 posted at 8:49 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Seriously101 Posts: 5

    Let's unite our common sense on this issue fellow Kootenai County citizens. If these were two black people, or two white people, or two Asian people arguing no one would have gone to jail! But because a white person was yelling at a black person it's a federal case! Additionally, no one put their hands on anyone! I'm extremely disappointed by the officers in this case and I support law enforcement. Beware citizens of either position or party......your words are no longer constitutionally protected. If Lee is a real man he'll show up at the prosecutors office and demand the "verbal abuser" be let go immediately and buy him a beer. Another ridiculous waste of our tax dollars and a sick violation of this man's constitutional rights.

     
  • cococo posted at 8:45 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    cococo Posts: 144

    northone9......so much for peace and love. You are a fool, a moron and a racist enslaved by your own guilt to hate your own kind. What part could you not understand. I'm not a racist...I don't think anybody "has it coming". And now you call me cocopuff and suggest homosexual activity on my part....so you're a gay basher too???
    What ignorance and incompetence did I display? Pointing out to you that "wikipedia" is filled with a lot of misinformation? Pointing out to you that hate crimes cannot be committed against "whitey" by law.

    Educate yourself.

    If Diekhoff pays the price for his misguided behavior, will that absolve you of your sins?
    Why should Lee not pay a price for his misguided behavior?

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 8:38 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    More brilliance from 'the truth".....an avowed Marxist.

     
  • The Truth posted at 8:01 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    The Truth Posts: 2193

    Wow, I'm really surprised to see the soft on crime types like NG and JoeIdaho here. I thought they were real citizens; seems like they're soft pinko commies.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 5:56 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Shirley, since you can (like any communist) deny ANY wrongdoing on the part of ANY person other than a caucasion, tell me; what would you say if white people pulled people from cars to beat them BECAUSE they were black?
    Oh; nothing, huh?
    That's because Liberals are H Y P O C R I T E S.
    Your double standards are what makes Aryan Nations & The Klan & all of the rest stronger. Liberal dogma about race, (white bad all others good) are what leads to civil wars & disturbances. If it weren't for liberals, there wouldn't BE a "race problem" in America.
    P.S.
    Know where the BIGGEST race problems in the world are now, genius?
    Sweden.
    Know why?
    Because their staunchly liberal government invited immigration from third world nations, and now Sweden has more white supremecist groups than any other country.
    Bond Hunter is also 1000% on the money. Think the Mexican's would be VERY anti-white people if WE invaded THEIR country; legally?
    Of COURSE they would.
    Only Liberal anti-white people are "understanding". (NAIVE).

     
  • Bond Hunter posted at 5:39 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Bond Hunter Posts: 2

    Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans, White countries for Everybody

    Genocide by Assimilation

    It is said that there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

     
  • Shirley Jones posted at 5:37 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Shirley Jones Posts: 191

    There is no racism here, no Aryan nation... hahhahahahahaha.

    As I have said before, the press blogs have become an Aryan chat site... no surprise.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 5:20 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    The people that were beaten in Milwaukee were attacked by African American youth; as were the WHITE people on Long Island Beach, Myrtle Beach, Chicago's Beaches, and numerous other places this summer.
    But NONE of them were racial; it's just a coincidence that the victims were ALL white, and the perpetrators were ALL Black.
    And now, this nimrod (yes it was stupid to be confrontational) might spend LIFE in prison over something he said????
    No more free speech, huh? At least not if you're "majority".

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 5:16 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Nico, as usual, you hit the nail directly on the head.
    WHERE is the OUTRAGE the should be happening over the WHITE people who were pulled from their cars & beaten at the Milwaukee State Fair 2 weeks ago?
    Oh, they were JUST white people, right?
    The bottom line is simple, if you are white; it's FINE for anyone to attack you or your religion. If you are of any other color, according to society, you can only BE attacked, but not vice versa.

     
  • Anyone posted at 5:13 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Anyone Posts: 1557

    MMMMMMM is right.

    So name-calling is a life sentence, but brandishing a bat is not a crime?

    Why didn't Lee just keep on walking? Why did he have to get a weapon and RETURN TO THE SCENE? If Diekhoff followed Lee back to his place, then the bat could be considered self-defense. But Lee left AND RETURNED!

    Both men committed crimes. Both men are prior criminals. Both deserve to be prosecuted. Period.

    If anything, it was a two-way hate crime.

    Hey Mr. Prosecutor and Judge...since when is returning to the scene of the crime considered "self-defense?" Do you actually want to uphold the law and find justice, or are you looking to score brownie points by fanning the fires of racism?

    How about locking them both away...they BOTH deserve it!

     
  • northone9 posted at 5:11 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    northone9 Posts: 278

    cocopuff you call me a fool, a moron and a racist. And then continue to display utter ignorance and incompetence. Fine then.
    Get back in your Ford pickup emblazoned with white pride stickers. Drive up the Rimrock.
    GET ON YOUR KNEES and pray that the ghost of richard butler shows up so you can give him the b j you seem to think he so richly deserves.
    Peace and Love.

     
  • northone9 posted at 4:53 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    northone9 Posts: 278

    Nico you misunderstand me. Please let me be clear.
    I would never suggest any accountability on your part.....none.
    If you read my post I clearly state that this "accountability" is how I feel. Personally.........my business.
    I am part of the human race. Not the white human race. Just the human race.
    And when my ancestors mess something up I feel a certain responsibility. I just do.
    There is no "They".....I think for myself.
    We are all brothers and I will stand up for any just cause. And yes I do feel some account when my brothers act with willful disregard of others. I'm not sure that's a bad thing.
    There is no reverse this or repressive that. We just need to treat each other with respect.
    If we can manage that we will all be better off.

     
  • cococo posted at 4:33 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    cococo Posts: 144

    northone9.....I agree, no race is superior to another, but to think that sometimes "whitey" has it coming is a racist way of thinking.

    You should know that "wikipedia" is a compilation of entries from just about anybody that wants to edit the information. While the wording may lead you to believe that a hate crime can apply to anybody....by law, that is not so. A hate crime cannot be committed against a (whitey) heterosexual white male born in this country. Even if 5 black men beat up "whitey" just because he is white...it is still not considered a "Hate Crime" by law.

     
  • Nicotinegun posted at 3:26 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Nicotinegun Posts: 1367

    North9 to say that I am accountable for the actions of the citizens of the U.S. due to the color of my skin is the same as saying you are accountable for the all the black gang bangers that are killing innocent citizens in drive by shootings. To say I am the same as the white slave masters of the past is like me saying every black man in the U.S. is responsible for the blacks in Somalia that are killing Christians.

    You seem to assosciate sin with skin. I do not. I do not believe in collective savior or collective guilt. I would not punish all my children for lying when I knew which one did it. I would not make all my neighbors pay for a broken window when I knew which one did it.

    You have unfortunately fallen into the trap that some call reverse racism, which in truth is Repressive Tolerance.

    They tell you not to be racist toward black people, but at the same time they tell you YOU ARE GUILTY BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE. Sin in the skin?

    I have had many different color skinned friends in my life. I argued with them just as I argue with you. Blacks, Latinos, Hispanics, Asians, ect....I say the same thing to them that I do to you: YOU CAN NOT BASE YOUR OPINION OR BLAME ON AN INDIVIDUAL DUE TO THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN AND NOT BE A RACIST EVEN IF YOU WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT, THE WHITE HOUSE, OR THE KOOTENAI COUNTY HUMAN RIGHTS TASK FORCE.

    Cocco and Insider thank you for the compliments.

    teeitup, why do you hate gays so much? why are you full of hatred?

     
  • Insider posted at 2:54 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Insider Posts: 360

    Nicotinegun nailed it right here

    "I wouldn't move to Compton and be surprised I got called cracker or honkey. I wouldn't call the cops, but if I did they would laugh at me when I demanded someone be arrested for a hate crime."

    Not right or wrong or affiliation of anything, it's the Mayberry mentality that has our police wanting to show we are "too great to hate" and wash ourselves of the stigma, while creating a PC double standard. Neither party was innocent in the altercation, however the outcome should have been dealt with like a schoolyard argument, not an arrest with the threat of life in prison.

     
  • idabilly posted at 2:26 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    idabilly Posts: 390

    Hey "Teeitup" in your effort to be a funny PC guy you in turn made a demeaning remark about "Gays." Why do you uber libs always resort to name calling, is it because you have so few facts on your side?

     
  • northone9 posted at 2:16 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    northone9 Posts: 278

    cococo.....no. You see, I don't think my race is superior to any other. Simple.
    And for your information sometimes "Whitey" does have it coming.
    And it is in fact a "hate crime" if its the other way around. By law.
    Is that really all you have?
    Perhaps you should remain silent and we will all think you are brilliant.

     
  • MMMMMM posted at 2:15 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    MMMMMM Posts: 2721

    Were these two functioning at about age level 9 years - calling each other names on the school yard.

    But, isn't returning with a bat a more serious crime? Name calling isn't nice, maybe it could qualify as harrassment, but to return with a bat is an obvious threat. A bat is a weapon. Lee didn't stay home, he came back. Is this brandishing, threatening an assault? He wasn't defending himself, he was acting "dumb" (his word) and allowed his "pride" to get in the way. Well, maybe Diekhoff just let his "pride" get in the way. Only black people have pride? With everybody else it's "hate", huh?

    Why why why why didn't the cops charge Lee with a crime also?

     
  • teeitup posted at 2:00 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    teeitup Posts: 9

    Hey Nicotinegun did you here, there's a new organization forming in North Idaho, it's called "Gay Nazi's for Racial Reform". I here they need a new president, someone that offers a fresh, new perspective, a forward thinker...... Just think of the possibilities

     
  • cococo posted at 1:58 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    cococo Posts: 144

    Well "northone9"....mission accomplished....you seem to hate your own race...what a fool.

    QUESTION: Why is it not a "hate crime" when a black person targets a white person because of their race?

    ANSWER: Because of morons like you that think whitey has it coming.

    That makes you the racist.

     
  • northone9 posted at 1:44 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    northone9 Posts: 278

    Nico that was rude of me.....sorry.
    You strike a nerve........
    Are we making up for the sins of the past.......YES.
    It's called accountability.....I feel.

     
  • northone9 posted at 1:24 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    northone9 Posts: 278

    Yo crusty since you asked......go to Wikipedia (hate crime). Read and learn. It's really pretty easy to understand and pretty reasonable.
    Then scroll down if you dare to the postcard of "The Duluth Lynchings". That fourth guy from the right. I think that may be Nico's uncle.....not sure. But the expression matches his rant.
    Black people as a general rule did not hang white people from trees....no matter how much we deserved it.

    Peace and Love


     
  • cococo posted at 12:48 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    cococo Posts: 144

    Very well put "nicotinegun".

     
  • Nicotinegun posted at 12:42 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Nicotinegun Posts: 1367

    Ummm, no Iceage, but nice try. I wouldn't say "Hey, where is the most anti-white male state in the U.S.? I think I'll move there."

    I wouldn't move to Compton and be surprised I got called cracker or honkey. I wouldn't call the cops, but if I did they would laugh at me when I demanded someone be arrested for a hate crime.

    My statement was simple: why would you move to a place that has the reputation for being ANTI-YOU? Addtionally, I wouldn't act so surprised when I actually encountered Anti-ME people.

    And yes, I do thoroughly believe, 100% that there are groups that support the Democratic party that are trying to make North Idaho more Democrat friendly. They import voters from Mexico so why wouldn't they get people to move from one state to another?

    I'm saying Diekhoff was right. What I'm saying is there is a hypocrisy going on. The system, the Federal and the State all seem to be trying to over compensate the racism of the past by committing racism against whites that had absolutely nothing to do with the racism of the past. We can thank the liberal Progrerssives for that, whether they are Republcian or Democrat. A Progressive is a Progressive NO MATTER WHAT LABEL THEY GO BY.

    Uncle Fester, mark the calender: WE AGREE.

     
  • crust123 posted at 12:27 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    crust123 Posts: 166

    yep, aint our justice system just grand... we could be footing the bill to keep this guy in prison rest of his life for a verbal confrontation, while multiple time sex offenders, multiple time drunk drivers, etc. continue to roam the streets seeking out their next victim... and the guy who escalated the confrontation by bringing a bat is a victim?? i dont get it either...

    what is a hate crime?? why do we care what names were called? If its a crime, its a crime, why do the particular names used in the heat of the moment matter as to the type of crime... this stuff is an insult to Americans of all colors. Our country needs to get off this PC garbage and treat all people with same amount of respect, period.

     
  • Jullee posted at 12:17 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Jullee Posts: 539

    Why was Lee trespassing ? Sounds like a lot of whinning to me.

     
  • northone9 posted at 12:05 pm on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    northone9 Posts: 278

    This would not be happening if Ronald Reagan was still President.....

     
  • uncle fester posted at 11:58 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    uncle fester Posts: 831

    Verbal problem until one of the people "armed " themselves. This person was the "victim"? This appears to be another over reaction by the men and women of the "Mayberry" police dept.

     
  • Iceage posted at 11:25 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Iceage Posts: 31

    "This is what happens when you vote in a liberal Congress and a liberal President: you can go to jail for calling someone a name if you are white" - Nicotinegun

    I believe Mr Diekhoff is up against a state law not a federal law. You know not everything Obama's fault... right?

    Further you have a problem with an American moving to another American state? I guess you don't understand what a free country is all about.

     
  • gocougs06 posted at 9:52 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    gocougs06 Posts: 6

    Why is it that all the Califorians that move up here always seem to be the ones that make the most drama in this area? If Lee went and grabbed a bat from a friend, that sounds like he was planning on using it, right? So why wasn't he questioned and detained just like Diekoff was for yelling and hollering whatever it was he did? Hmmm....something's fishy.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 9:34 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    The guy who initiated the interaction is the one being held. Whether there were slurs involved or not they would probably still have him under arrest, especially with a recent admission of another violent crime. Did any notice the difference in todays accounting from yesterday? Yesterday we were told the man was trespassing on Diekoffs property. Diekoff is a renter. It is not his property and not his encroachment rules to enforce. The guy is a 1st class dolt and was looking for trouble. Well he's got a snoot full of trouble now.

     
  • Nicotinegun posted at 9:10 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Nicotinegun Posts: 1367

    Hopefully, someone pulls their head out of their third point of contact and makes the obvious statement that by returning to the scene with bat in hand Lee had intentions of doing bodily harm to Diekhoff. He returned to the scene of his own volition with the intent to engage in a physical altercation with Diekhoff.

    WHY ISN'T HE IN JAIL? He is a criminal too?

    Diekhoff obviously isn't the smartest ape in the tree, BUT he doesn't deserve prison for calling someone a name. Why would Lee leave CA and come to what is known to be the most racist place in the U.S.? Does anyone think maybe he was influenced to come here?

    Is it possible there is a push to diversify N. Idaho? Me thinks this to be true.

     
  • Nicotinegun posted at 9:06 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    Nicotinegun Posts: 1367

    Hate Crime? This is what happens when you vote in a liberal Congress and a liberal President: you can go to jail for calling someone a name if you are white.

    I would be willing to make a significant wager that if Lee called Diekhoff a "cracker" or a "honkey" he would not be facing hate crime charges.

    This is ridiculous. This is a farce and just proves how ridiculous and petty our legal system is getting.

    Literally, "he called me a name!" ARREST HIM.....This is the United States of America not Bolshevick Russia or Nazi Germany. This is completely ridiculous.

    So Lee gets a bat which is a direct threat and he gets nothing. Diekhoff uses words and he is behind bars: this is the U.S. under Progressives.

     
  • The Truth posted at 8:19 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    The Truth Posts: 2193

    Cool, another three time loser going away for good. I'm glad we're getting tough on crime.

     
  • ancientemplar posted at 7:52 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    ancientemplar Posts: 1146

    Two guys, one a black felon of theft and one a white, felon(I imagine) of forgery, get into a confrontation and one brings a bat. This gets the interest of the of the police, the prosecutors' office and the courts for a hate crime, and the story makes the Cd'A Mess? And why are these people in Coeu rd'Alene? Because we welcome these people here for our taxpayer supported COMMUNITY WELFARE and a "better life".

    If you're a white elderly middle class guy and a neighbor tries to pick a fight with you,you can't get anyone's attention. The prosecutor's office will tell you that there are no general harassment laws in Idaho, so just cope with your bully neighbor.

    What's wrong with these pictures?

     
  • idabilly posted at 6:03 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    idabilly Posts: 390

    Good.....good..... way to go Press. We have gone almost a month without publishing some sort of story here that gets all pumped up because the two involved are of different races. In the last 4 weeks, how many assault's, confrontations and verbal altercations have there been locally that were not published in the Press because they were "white on white?" Hundreds I bet. Nope, we have to continue to raise the racist flag for everyone else around the country to see and confirm that we are all members of the KKK and AN. Perfect. Let's continue to publish that we are still the hotbed of racist activity so that we can continue to attract these people. I mean who wouldn't want to march down Sherman every Friday night in a hood to the cross burning? That's the message that is continually broadcast in the local media here.... this "story" will get picked up by the AP and you see it on the Drudgereport by Wednesday morning like the Snow Nazi.

     
  • capnbutch posted at 4:57 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    capnbutch Posts: 729

    This spruces up the original story a little bit but still leaves colossal questions. I would hate to be subjected to the Press's views of my own deeds.

    If I were the editor, I would go to the neighborhood and pick up some more reliable accounts. Then I would chat with officers. This reporter joined the masses in confusing the meaning of the word, "Aryan." The concept is not one of belief at all. Even a young reporter is supposed to know these things and to help tell the protagonist's stories correctly whatever they may be. The journalist is expected to have studied at least a little sociology.

    The first story was simply a tragic, misleading mistake by a very young reporter. This time the story is profoundly unprofessional.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 4:19 am on Tue, Aug 30, 2011.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    So you're worried about neighborhood crime and you live in a city? Put a 'neighborhood watch' sign in your window and call the police if you see anyone or anything suspicious.

    And this idiot is employed by NIC. Doing what? Do they not conduct criminal background checks on their employees? And his pregnant fiance says he's a good guy? Good for what, he hasn't married you and he's picking fights while holding your daughter in his arms?

     
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