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More deer killed in Dalton Gardens

A total of eight animals have been poached in the last week

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Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:00 am

DALTON GARDENS - Five more deer were found shot dead Thursday and Friday in Dalton Gardens, bringing the total to eight deer fatally shot by poachers in the last week.

Three of the deer were does that were carrying fawns, and a small caliber weapon was used in each instance, according to the Idaho Department of Fish and Game.

"They are likely being shot at night or in the very early morning," said Phil Cooper, an IDFG spokesman, on the string of shootings around residential neighborhoods in the small town north of Coeur d'Alene. "It's hard to believe nobody heard any shot."

The first three dead deer were originally reported between Feb. 7- 9. On Thursday morning, two more deer were killed near 16th Street and Hanley Avenue. Another three were then found Friday also in the vicinity, at 16th Street and Wilbur Avenue and at Snowberry Street near Hanley Avenue.

Two of the first three deer shot last week were also found near 16th Street and Wilbur Avenue.

Neighbors Friday said news on the shootings was alarming. They hadn't seen anything out of the ordinary to raise suspicions, but knowing that one or more people were opening fire in the middle of town was an unsettling thought.

"It's scary," said Rebecca Heffter, who has lived on the corner of 16th Street and Hanley Avenue for nine months, but didn't hear or see anything relating to poaching. "We moved out here so our kids could run around and be safe ... It's very concerning."

Mike McGinnis, who lives in Dalton Gardens near the killings, said he thought he heard a bullet hit his shed one recent night while he was home.

He said he doesn't know if that had anything to do with the carcasses found not far from his driveway, but "it's not too cool to hunt them down in the neighborhood."

The deer population has been a long-standing issue in Dalton Gardens, a town with a population of 2,335 that sits next to Canfield Mountain. The homes, which typically sit on one-acre parcels, have ample gardens, trees and lawns which some residents say deer trample and destroy.

Jerry Schomer, a Dalton Gardens resident, said he saw about 18 deer across Totten Lane, near the shooting area, from his house a couple days ago.

"I think they need to cut down on the deer population," he said. "You can't hardly keep anything growing here without having it fenced in."

He said Totten practically serves as a wildlife corridor for the deer coming into the city off Canfield Mountain to the east, but that shooting deer wasn't the proper solution.

"I'm a little concerned, yes," he said.

In 2011, the city explored ways to reduce the number of deer in the city and one suggestion floated at the time was letting hunters thin the population.

But that idea never got off the ground, Mayor Dan Franklin said Friday. Instead, the city is exploring looking at the its fencing ordinance and promoting education when it comes to deer.

"It's sad when we resort to measures like that," he said of the poaching spree. "That's not the way we take care of problems ... That's not the appropriate action. That's just the bottom line."

The deer season in North Idaho currently is closed, so the shooting of a deer is a violation of state wildlife laws.

The unlawful killing of one deer in Idaho is a misdemeanor with a possible fine of up to $1,000 and a potential six-month jail term. If someone kills more than one deer unlawfully within a 12-month period they can be charged with a felony.

Discharging a firearm within the city limits of Dalton Gardens also is illegal.

Shirlene Crow, a Dalton Gardens resident for 16 years, said deer can be seen as pests for homeowners there, but found the news of the poaching spree troubling, saying it sounded as if someone was "out to eradicate them."

"In the 16 years I've been here I've never heard of anything like this," she said.

Anyone with information about the recent shootings can call Fish and Game at (208) 769-1414; or, the Citizens Against Poaching (CAP) hotline at (800) 632-5999.

Callers can remain anonymous and may be eligible for a CAP reward if the information provided leads to the arrest and conviction of those responsible, Fish and Game said.

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  • Ziggy posted at 3:42 pm on Tue, Feb 19, 2013.

    Ziggy Posts: 1144

    These people will get caught. Shooting stuff is oh so visible. I live in an area of lots of deer and I love it. If you don't want deer, plant stuff they don't like. They don't seem to eat the Oregon Grape, or the bayberry, or the firebush. They do munch on my yew, tulips, even raspberries although this would seem a bit prickly. The Syringa may be too tall but they don't bother it. Neighbor has one of those sticky evergreen low growing bushes and they don't eat that.
    Laws is correct. Fence, fence. I had friends on Potlatch Hill who grew a great garden, behind a tall fence. Deer add to the ambience of living here. They were here first, by the way.

  • idaholiberal posted at 8:38 pm on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    idaholiberal Posts: 181

    My mom died when I was 3.

    You comment like you know who I am, or what I have, or whether I have the right to be proud of it. But, you don't know me. I wouldn't have such an ignorant, make up lies to prove a point, friend.

  • bionic man posted at 6:37 pm on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    just couldn't pass it up.......have to wonder " liberal," when did mama pull the golden spoon out of your rectum?

    the people in Idaho work for their money, not having it handed to them by mommy and daddy. highly educated/high earning....riding on the tails of mommy.

    at least I'm proud of what I have because it was by my knowledge and ability that I earned it. so enjoy what you think you have. I have a thousand times more than what your mommy's apron strings will ever give you.

  • idaholiberal posted at 5:35 pm on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    idaholiberal Posts: 181

    ps. and by "inbred" you must mean highly-educated, high-earning, law-abiding citizen who is able to afford resort/second property in your area because of the opportunities available in other more progressive states. All this without ever having owned a gun, imagine that!

  • idaholiberal posted at 5:22 pm on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    idaholiberal Posts: 181

    If all goes well, your "backwoods justice" will result in a firearms violations, big fines, and jail time. Idaho is like the kid in school with the big comb sticking out of his pocket.... everyone is laughing at you, but you think you're cool!

  • bionic man posted at 4:35 pm on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347 should rename that to "outofstatejerk that moved to idaho." Your comment alone speaks volumes of the "inbreds" from out of state. Give us " Idabilly's " a break and move back to where you came from. No matter how hard you " inbreds " try, you'll never change the attitude/norm of us " Idabilly's. " Backwoods justice does wonders

  • idaholiberal posted at 2:55 pm on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    idaholiberal Posts: 181

    If I had to bet money, I would guess this is the work of a local, born and bred, Idabilly. Time will tell.

    Local res: not all of us view the deer as a "problem". Guns discharging within city limits, killing innocent deer is the problem.

  • IdahoJoey posted at 12:59 pm on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    IdahoJoey Posts: 343

    And if they accidentally kill someone in the process?

  • skunkworks posted at 11:09 am on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    skunkworks Posts: 252

    Are your willing to do the Shooters Time in Jail and Pay all his/her fines....Think Not !!!!

    "Get a Heart"....

  • tomanylaws posted at 9:06 am on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    tomanylaws Posts: 47

    I was born and raised in CDA and moved to Dalton over 25 years ago. I enjoy the deer and other wildlife in this area. My advice to those that do not like the deer eating their precious gardens, FENCE YOUR YARD. It that is to expensive then fence your garden and landscape with deer resistant plants and trees. There are laws against discharging a firearm within city limits. The shooter may end up hitting someones dog or worse. I hope they catch this idiot soon.

  • local res posted at 5:58 pm on Sun, Feb 17, 2013.

    local res Posts: 1164

    If they ever find out who is shooting I hope to be on the jury. My vote will not guilty. Both the city and F & G recognize the problem and refuse to address the problem. Keep shooting

  • bionic man posted at 4:12 pm on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    You can definately tell who the "calibaggers" are from the posts here. And as I said before, my reference goes to those who have moved in here from other states. Vox, Simple truth, Flattbrain you are all examples of people who have no idea of what this area once was. It's your and others like you, intrusion on this area that has and continues to destroy the beauty of this area. Unfortunately this trend will not change since CDA has developed into a "financial" garden supported by the local government corruption.

    As for those that are shooting these animals, be nice to see you one on one.

  • skunkworks posted at 3:30 pm on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    skunkworks Posts: 252

    I have Plenty of Antlers I would lend for the Job... Of Course they don't have their antlers yet....Duh....

  • idahoguy posted at 3:12 pm on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    idahoguy Posts: 932

    Fool, they do not have antlers this time of the year.

    Hey a word to the wise... Many folks in the country thin the deer herd when they get out of hand. They do not ask nor do they tell. If you are doing this thinning I will warn you to cool it now. Fun & games will be setting up deer look alike sting traps now. They will be trying to get you to take a shot or even slow down to take a look.

  • The Simple Truth posted at 11:26 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    'drunken local' - exact description of most hunters in the area...

  • skunkworks posted at 11:00 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    skunkworks Posts: 252

    "When" they catch whoever is responsible,I hope They shove Deer Sh*t down his throat... and an Antler up his A*s...

  • flattopramen posted at 10:30 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    lol it's the City Slickers shooting the deer? It's probably a drunken local...

    Also, it's not the wolves scaring the deer into residential areas, the deer are being fed by the residents, destroying their natural grazing behavior and basically turning them into "lawn-rats".

    Hand feeding the wildlife is irresponsible.

  • concernedcitizen posted at 9:41 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Bob Loblaw

    Wouldn't that be profiling? ;)

  • Bob Loblaw posted at 9:21 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    Bob Loblaw Posts: 381

    Start interviewing all homeowners with rose gardens . . .

  • Why Not posted at 5:53 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 4301

    Poaching the lawn-rats isn't necessarily right, but this was bound to happen sooner or later. The population is out of control in Dalton and Hayden especially. Just hand my dog chase about a dozen off my property. It's a regular 430A event here and no matter what you do, they still come back and eat everything except the weeds. I suppose feeding the homeless with our surplus venison isn't a bad idea, but if you give more you'll get more of them - vicious circle I tell you.

  • voxpop posted at 5:17 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    Deer are just large brown rats and need to be exterminated. The population is completely out of control and like it or not I applaud any effort to reduce their numbers. Fewer people hunt today and something substantial needs to be done.

  • heatherfeather posted at 12:28 am on Sat, Feb 16, 2013.

    heatherfeather Posts: 297

    Small caliber likely means a .22, which is not a noisy gun. It is possible someone is hunting with a suppressor (especially for a .22). I hope they catch the schmuck soon. It's almost spring, and...duh...the does are pregnant.

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