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Protestors, citizens come out for Gov. Otter's visit to Spirit Lake

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Posted: Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 10:15 am, Fri Nov 16, 2012.

SPIRIT LAKE - The two sides stood apart in the drizzling rain, one holding signs protesting Idaho's second wolf hunt, the other the state's governor, about to honor Spirit Lake residents Rod and Nancy Erickson.

"He doesn't want to talk to us," said Bill Ross, one of 12 members from the wolf advocacy and education group, Wolf People, out of Cocolalla, who made the trip to Spirit Lake to protest the wolf season during Gov. Butch Otter's Capital For a Day celebration. "He wants to avoid us like the plague."

A few feet away from the demonstration, which included two caged wolves that licked their handlers' hands, stood Otter, fielding questions about his position on wolf management.

"I don't think there is anybody that is unfamiliar with my position," Otter said Wednesday in the middle of city park during the lunch hour. "If there is, I don't think they were listening."

Idaho proved it can manage its wolf count in 2009, the inaugural season, the courts have accepted it, and the issue has been exhausted, he said.

Otter didn't make his way over to the protest, and the protest didn't track down the governor. Ross said he never expected the sides to debate, the group was just sending a message. Instead, Otter took to the stage and proclaimed Aug. 31 Rod and Nancy Erickson Recognition Day in Idaho.

Rod, a musician who has traveled and played with big name acts including George Jones, and Nancy were honored for their contributions to Spirit Lake and Idaho, a state in which they've lived for 50 years.

But the rain cut short the song Rod played, and it was back to the Spirit Lake Senior Center for more questions and answers. Capital For a Day, which has granted nearly 50 towns in all 44 counties the honor, gives Idahoans who otherwise may not have the time, face-to-face opportunities with their representatives.

No set speaking forums, no question guidelines, whatever is on your mind, ask away.

"That's good for us, that seems to work in our favor," said Beth Miller, of Spirit Lake, on the personal time with the state that lets Otter and the team "know we exist, and that we're watching them."

"It really does work," she said, having asked the governor for support in motorcycle rights should they arise in the Legislature.

The wolf discussion led to the topic of the grizzly shot and killed near the Canadian border, and the ensuing federal court case for the suspect. But local issues were front and center, too.

Like, what should be done to stop littering? Could Idaho increase the $350 ticket to really make it a deterrent? Can it require trucks to cover their back ends should they be traveling to the dump?

"You can't drive anywhere anymore, this is a beautiful area, without seeing garbage everywhere," Hayden's Bob Granggard told Otter.

Covering loads could be a county ordinance if the local population wishes to address it, Otter said.

Where to go to solve what problem is usually cleared up during the capital celebrations. The state isn't on the hook for everything.

"It has a tendency to clear up jurisdictional questions on the one hand, and where to actually go to surrender to solve your problem on the other," Otter said.

Otter's team said a judge's recent decision on the Farragut State Park shooting range not being allowed to operate was a "disappointing" one that will be appealed.

"I think it's productive," said John Alan, who asked the governor about the shooting range. "They already knew what I was talking about, they were prepared."

Otter told one man who wanted elected officials to weigh in on a federal court case years ago, that once issues hit the federal courts, representatives are all but barred from talking about them.

Later, asked why so many representatives, including Otter, weighed in on the case involving Jeremy Hill of Porthill, charged with killing a grizzly bear, a threatened species protected by federal law, Otter said they weren't the same thing.

"Have you heard or seen a statement from Mike Crapo that says anything about the citation or anything about the court action? No. Senator Risch? No. Labrador? Maybe a little bit in a general way. But as far as the specifics of the case, they're staying away from it. Which is what they're required to do," Otter said about the press releases the elected officials sent out. "They're discussing it. They're saying, 'Golly, if my family were faced with that, if that was my only immediate relief from that threat, I would have done the same thing.'"

Local issues, statewide issues, from the north of the state to the bottom, people generally seemed to be concerned about the same thing, Otter said. And as for Spirit Lake, the governor loves it. The last time he visited was October.

"I've been here lots of times," he said. "In fact, the last time I was here the key issue was the wolves."

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  • carmann posted at 11:23 am on Tue, Feb 21, 2012.

    carmann Posts: 28

    why can't these worthless hunters like Joeidaho and cougar just get aids and die?

  • Fed up posted at 9:57 am on Tue, Sep 6, 2011.

    Fed up Posts: 55


    What i am fed up with is people who think animals have more rights than a citizen and a government in DC that forces stupid laws down our throats.I hope you stay out of Idaho wherever you are from, you might like it better in communist China where the government controls everything including firearms, you would like that.

    I would much more want to be associated with people like Joe who show common sense and rationalisn about what's going on than some highly educated moron from LA or DC.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 7:57 pm on Mon, Sep 5, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    (Laughing out loud...) I really get under your skin, huh pig?

    Yes, I am THE BEST, pg. Nobody is as good as me.
    I wonder which state you're from, Buddy? Could it be Washington, or maybe California? You MUST be from one of those states, because that's where the people come from that tell us how big our elk herds are after the wolves have savaged them. Same thing goes for healthcare, and most anything else that the communists want us to have; you all KNOW better what's good for us all, eh comrade?

    We in Idaho do so truly hope that you STAY in your state, leave us snivelling whiny Idahoans alone so we can live in our trailers, in our dumbness.

    And shoot to kill grizzlies & wolves that show ANY attempt to cause trouble.

    Pig, you wouldn't make it here; our wilderness would scare you to death, sweetheart.

  • budpg posted at 7:39 am on Mon, Sep 5, 2011.

    budpg Posts: 6

    Oh and one more thing Fed Up- if you are so fed up with our country move to Bolivia.

  • budpg posted at 7:36 am on Mon, Sep 5, 2011.

    budpg Posts: 6

    And you don't comprehend English very well. I'll use crayons and more pictures next time so you'll understand........I didn't say that I thought you were clever- I said you think you're clever.....Big difference. A little full of yourself there Joe? Don't worry about me coming to Idaho, I would break out in a rash when exposed to all the dumbness. How much "trailer park heaven" can one man handle..... Your comment about your hunters being the best in the nation- From what I have read on the hunting blogs not so much from where I sit. Hunters aren't suppose to whine and snivel about decimated game herds when the actual numbers tell a totally different story....Facts are a tricky thing to stupid people

  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:36 am on Mon, Sep 5, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Also pig-
    A redneck is always a democrap.
    Sure, Idaho's a garbage dump. (You wouldn't like it)
    "Rated in the bottom 5" in what? Liberal affiliations?
    Our hunters are some of the best in the Nation, easily.
    Our herds are getting decomated by wolves.
    Since you think a person can hunt elk from a pickup truck box, you obviously don't know a thing about hunting, making you a typical liberal.
    Go back home to L.A., "Bud". The city will be much kinder that my Idaho ever would be.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 10:35 pm on Sun, Sep 4, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    SINCE you're not from Idaho, and you hate us Idahoans so much;
    Funny how folks like yo ucome here & think we're dumb, while escaping where you come from.
    And YES, I AM clever. Totally. Thanks for the confirmation.

  • budpg posted at 3:01 pm on Sun, Sep 4, 2011.

    budpg Posts: 6

    Joe from Idahooo-

    You think you' re clever. The fact is your state is a garbage dump, full of uneducated, illiterate rednecks......Look it up.....your state is consistently ranked in the bottom 5 states in the country. Your representin Idahooo like a pro. Your hunters are a joke, whining and sniveling about decimated game herds. Don't you know "huntin" is more than killing your elk from the back of your gas guzzlin shitbox pickup inbetween beer burps......Or do ya just go to the wildlife preserve to kill ya one of those Rex Rammell semi tame handfed animals!!!!!!!

  • Fed up posted at 1:33 am on Sun, Sep 4, 2011.

    Fed up Posts: 55

    To budpg,
    Spell check? I think dumbocrat is spelled just right.
    You know, Captain Kangaroo would make a better President than Obama.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 7:55 pm on Sat, Sep 3, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Hey Pig-
    So, let's see.....
    from a "fat, no (SIC) nothing, with a pathetic miserable live; to someone hwo feels it important to say these things, I give you:
    bobozo will lose to ANY Republican running, according to Rasmussen, AP, and most any other polling agency in America today. He is in fact the peenultimate loser, and you are his biggest fan.
    How's that feel?
    Cuz for me I'm again just soooooo hurt that you called me what; "fat" & "miserable". My life has changed now, gotta go shoot a wolf.....
    The complete definition of idiot is anyone who voted for bumblina. I guess that'd be you, right?

  • budpg posted at 2:16 pm on Sat, Sep 3, 2011.

    budpg Posts: 6

    Geez FedUp- you're such a leeder.......No spell check on the computer huh airhead......Joeidahooo-You hillbillies in the teabag party are nothing more than a bunch of no nothing fat white people who have miserable pathetic lives, so you find whatever you can to blame- whether it's liberals, wolves, the guvmint... it doesn't matter does it you sniveler. Just tell me I'm curious- who will beat Obama in 2012? The no nothing common sense constitution conservative conartist half term nitwit governor from Ak? Or maybe Rick Perry? You could bring captain Kangaroo back from the grave to be his running mate!!!

  • JoeIdaho posted at 8:27 am on Sat, Sep 3, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    I like it, Fedup......"sterilization for ALL liberals, free with gift card!" Nice....

    And yes, we'll all have a GREAT HUNT this year, hopefully many dead wolves, big bullet holes in many more! The rest of them can be rounded up & sent back to their homelands in SanFran, Chicago, and NYC, places where they'll be appreciated.

    Being a Communist Lib in N Idaho must be like being a jew in 1939 Germany, without the fear of a work camp or extermination.....yet. (Just dreamin'...)

  • Fed up posted at 11:27 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    Fed up Posts: 55

    Joeidaho and Bluidevl: I hope you guys have a good hunt. I wish you a good success in getting a big male wolf, preferably the leeder of the pack.
    I think more people need to do what you guys are doing. We have to next get rid of the grizzlies.

    The socialist liberal dumbocrats are trying to stop this anyway they can. The best way for us to get the word out is to educate people about their stupidity and what they are doing to this country. Maybe we could get a law passed where we could require sterilization.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 10:05 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Actually bedbug; reality is that bobama had things SO messed up that the Tea Party was BOUND to take over Congress; which they did with his help; as he is in fact just a Moron. Neat of you to try to give credit to the Tea Party for somethign that happened prior to their arrival; pretty typical communist dogma, nothing new there.
    And I TRULY hope you believe that dumbama will get reelected w a 9% & exploding larger unemployment rate. That's just genius, tell us more.
    Uh oh. it's the DREADED "racist" card!!!! And we're "cowards" now too!!! I'm SO offended! Have to go kill a wolf or a grizzly sometime soon to get out my "frustrations".
    Tell me, commies, what's it going to be like sitting; alone in the dark, aftert the next elections, when you lose not only the white house but the senate, too?
    Hmmm.....you had control of ALL of it...and lost it inside of 4 years.
    You guys are AMAZING in your depth of intelligencia.
    Guess America doesn't want communsim OR Sharia Law, huh girls?

  • budpg posted at 5:36 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    budpg Posts: 6

    Gee whizz Joel- With all this teabag obstructionism in Congress I guess Obama will make history when he is reelected with unemployment still at 9%.....Good ole Republoman- repels facts, impervious to reason, resists all compromise.....
    You racist nutjobs will just have to stay awake t night for another four years with a BLACK man in the big house.......Don't worry- you can take out your teabag frustration on animals like you cowards usually do

  • JoeIdaho posted at 3:53 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    BIG news for you two dumbocrats....more conservatives are moving here....and they all are leaving behind what "well educated people" like you manufactured in the places they are LEAVING.

    BTW, "DogeatDog", in ALL of your incredible wisdom, I'll BET you didn't know that the term "Redneck" came from your ancestors, coal miners in W Virginai who wore red handkerchiefs to signify they were in support of the unions.
    Talk about morons......(speaking of DED & budpig).
    Also, GREAT job creation for last month, geniuses.
    ZERO percent........matching numbers for the IQ of most Democrats.

  • budpg posted at 3:12 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    budpg Posts: 6

    With posters like joelidaho and bluidevl it is really apparent to the rest of the country how you people in Idaho are at the very bottom of the barrel in education. In fact- you bring the term "redneck" to a whole new level......Congratulations hillbillies

  • DogeatDog posted at 12:49 pm on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    DogeatDog Posts: 59

    Morons that use the moniker JoeIdaho or Idabilly should be banned from the state of Idaho. We have enough ignorant, redneck right-wing hicks now. Move back to Oklahoma.

  • Downtowner posted at 6:18 am on Fri, Sep 2, 2011.

    Downtowner Posts: 100

    It is a nice idea for Governor to come to our rural Idaho towns for a day like Spirit Lake, Mullan, etc. just see how most Idahoans live. Too bad there are no positive spins on what those small towns have accomplished with so little. SL has had vast improvements to parks, refurbishing of Main Street coming up, boat launch, etc., all spearheaded by the locals. Instead the biggest part of the story here is about the for profit business of the wolf people. Congrats to Spirit Lake for having the State spotlight for the day!

  • Fed up posted at 8:40 pm on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    Fed up Posts: 55

    The Truth
    You must be one of those liberal socialist dumbmocrats. I don't think you would know or want the truth if it hit you in the head.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:28 pm on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    truth never tells the truth.

  • bluidevl posted at 3:38 pm on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    bluidevl Posts: 136

    how cute...the little wolf was licking the hands of its handlers....I wonder if the wolf people invited the little girl who was bitten by their disgusting animals a couple years ago- I went there and saw these "gentle" creatures....watch them pace nervously in their cage as they never took their eyes off our kids. I cant wait to have a wolf tail....

  • The Truth posted at 9:26 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    The Truth Posts: 2193

    republicans never want to talk to people who aren't rich and white

  • PandaPuppy posted at 9:03 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    PandaPuppy Posts: 15

    It is because state Wildlife actors listened to people like Bill Ross that Idaho is now overrun with wolves and people are tired of nothing being done to protect ungulate herds and the people of Idaho from the diseases that wolves carry and spread, both to humans and cattle. Idaho needs more than a wolf hunt to decrease the number of wolves enough to protect ungulate herds and humans.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:51 am on Thu, Sep 1, 2011.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Dead wolves are the best kind.....here's to a VERY successful WOLF HUNT.

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