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Posted: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:39 am

Anyone who has read the enlightening editorial in the Press on July 29th must now realize the terrible threat posed by the International Baccalaureate program.

How dare the Press praise such a program, and how dare voters elect to establish an educational option that encourages a global viewpoint and actually requires academic rigor rather than paying it mere lip service? IB is an un-American menace, but in 2003 local voters actually elected to fund the program in a special election.

In a state where the top educator isn’t even an educator, what were we thinking? Were we actually hoping to educate kids and not just train them? Patrons must have lost their minds to want District 271 to adopt a program with a curriculum aimed at depth rather than at shallow multiple choice assessments, because sane people know that diving deeply can result in drowning. How dare we expose our children to such a danger?

Instead of experiencing a quick and easy multiple-choice test at a keyboard, these poor IB students must gather their thoughts and collect from memory the knowledge needed to write in-depth essays with an old-fashioned pen for two hours on each of the various subjects into which they have chosen to submerge.

How cruel and unusual is that? Can you imagine having to compose an answer to a question relying on your ideas and on the memory of what you have learned and read and discussed without having a computer in front of you as you do it? Can you imagine not being able to simply cut and paste from a website but instead being required to incorporate your experiences in class and on the Internet into a cogent piece of writing that won’t be graded by your teacher but will be held up to international standards and compared to the work of other students around the world? It’s absurd and cruel.

Also cruel is the fact that we allow such cognitive self-flagellation within a system designed for convenience and comfort. Idaho has streamlined the route to a high school diploma, while IB requires excursions into intellectual areas designed to stimulate critical thinking through the slow process of contemplation. Why would anyone choose to take such excursions when there are far faster and easier ways to obtain a diploma? A person has to be a bit twisted to choose actual critical thinking over the kind that can be accomplished by pushing the A, B, C, or D keys on a keyboard.

As the Press editorial clearly illuminated, we simply do not have that many masochists in our student population. Only 54 Lake City High School students chose the unusual challenge of an IB class, and even at Coeur d’Alene High School less than 10 percent of the students opted for the Advanced Placement Program. That is because, as Homer Simpson claimed, if something is difficult that’s Mother Nature’s way of telling you to skip it.

So let’s get rid of IB, a program that in its brief existence has sent the few students twisted enough to volunteer for it off to dangerous places like Harvard and Yale and Princeton and Stanford and a host of other top-tier colleges, thus ruining them for Idaho. Both IB and AP lack the numbers to justify their existence, and their existence is threatening our way of life. Shame on those deluded souls who forgot the wisdom of Homer Simpson and voted for the dangerous wisdom of hard work and exposure the wider world back in 2003. Hopefully, our wise school board will see fit to rectify your catastrophic mistake and keep Idaho safe from the evils of a global viewpoint and actual critical thinking.

Mike Ruskovich is a resident of Blanchard.

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  • 1inIdaho posted at 10:29 pm on Mon, Aug 6, 2012.

    1inIdaho Posts: 279

    I was at Super One the other day, and couldn't find any tin foil. The cashier told me they had sold-out, to all the IB foes making hats.

  • Almost an IB Parent posted at 8:31 am on Wed, Aug 1, 2012.

    Almost an IB Parent Posts: 46

    IB is not a good for most students find out why here,

  • inclined posted at 5:55 pm on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.

    inclined Posts: 681

    Oh, nwo, I have a Sven and Olie that kind of explains ole Mike's anecdotal summary.

    Sven came over to Olie's place to find him on the barn roof, lookin for evidence of a leak.

    Up the ladder he goes, but last step sends the ladder sideways and down, leaving the two on the roof.
    Oh, Olie, good grief, I sent the ladder to the ground. Help me find the leak and we'll figure someting, Sven says.

    They look and look. Ok, now to get down. Sven goes this way on the big roof, Olie dat vay. Next ting, Sven is down, and yelling to Olie. Over here Olie. Olie said, vell, look at you. How'd ya get down?
    I yumped. Vere? There, in the manure. Vell, how far did ya sink in? Sven said, up ta me ankles.
    So, on Sven's word, Olie jumps. Up to his neck he goes. Oh, Sven, what have ya done? Why did ya tell me ya only sunk up ta yur ankles? I did. I dove.

    With all that is revealed, in extensive revelation of IB, they still want us to jump into the pucky.

    We are Swedish, Norwegian, Italian, and a hundred others, but we're American. The whole world knows there is still lingering an exceptionalism that can fix the leak, and do it right, and away from the manure of IBism. It is, bottom line, a crock.

  • hubba1 posted at 8:54 am on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.

    hubba1 Posts: 23

    good job Mike. Being 50th out of 50 states in $ spent per pupil, led by the leadership of our local politicians John Goedde, and Bob Nonini who hate education, along with Tom Luna who cant spell education, why would anyone expect our school systems to continue a high end IB cirriculum that actually forces kids to think, when they can follow Tom Luna and company proposal to give all students a computer to take online courses designed so a monkey can pass them, and get the students out of our school system as fast as possible to lessen spending per pupil on teachers and programs even more.

    I do see one advantage of the new computer program and that is I need a new computer but will wait for the state to issue one to all students. Within a couple months the pawn stores will be full of them and then I can afford a new one.

    Thanks again Mike, you hit the nail again on the head.

  • Brent Regan posted at 8:16 am on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 740

    Perhaps the author would benefit from a little critical thinking himself.

    The UN’s interests are not aligned with the interests of the USA. The UN’s political power will increase with the decimation of America’s standing.

    The IB program is self-described as pedagogic (whole child) “education” which indoctrinates students into Cartesian Relativism (2+2= whatever I decide it is in my reality). It advances a globalist view (thinly veiled Marxism) where the rights of the “community” are superior to the rights of the individual. Note: In the 20th century, over 150 million people died at the hands of their own governments when they did not acquiesce to the supremacy of the state. “Democide” exceeded acute disease as the leading cause of premature death.

    IB is more expensive and less effective than other AP programs.

    Our country is at a crossroads. One path leads to a return to American Exceptionalism, prosperity and freedom. The other leads to globalism, misery and serfdom. IB is a paving stone in the road to perdition.

  • apathoid posted at 6:37 am on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.

    apathoid Posts: 211

    Um, Mike...just a little one of those pesky 'facts" that you like to ignore..the levy in 2003 included funding for Advanced Learning Programs of which IB is a part but not the whole One should not cling to that as voter endorsement of the IB program nor should one present that as "proof" that IB is wanted in our community.

    I most certainly hope that the diatribes you pen are not indicative of what you "teach" our students. Fortunately for me my kids won't be at LCHS so I won't have to worry about them avoiding your class.

  • Truth About IB posted at 5:55 am on Tue, Jul 31, 2012.

    Truth About IB Posts: 74

    "but in 2003 local voters actually elected to fund the program in a special election."

    Yeah, uh news flash Mike, it's not 1968 or 2003 anymore.

    And people call ME "snarky"? LOL!

  • Ziggy posted at 7:59 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    Ziggy Posts: 1295

    Real education often can't be measured by numbers and that's what is mostly measured today. Art history, linguistics, geography, all of these affect culture. Often art in the form of painting or drama or fiction heralds a new age. An example would be Ibsen's Doll House or Dicken's Oliver Twist.
    Can you meausre understanding of these great works in numbers? But these works offer an individual the insight into social change. The best class I took in college had nothing to do with either of my majors but it added a richness to my life and a light to my spirit.

  • Why Not posted at 7:16 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    Why Not Posts: 5326

    Hardly an agent of the Government New World Ogre and my off the cuff comment is in fact relevant because certain members of the school board injected ridiculous charges about IB. You must believe that what kids take from the Internet is truth. Only if they have the ability to look at an issue from different points of view too weigh the differences and arrive at a logical answer that they formulate in their own head, not someone else’s agenda. We have enough clueless people in this country. What we need are more people who are verbally articulate, motivated and curious rather than Twittering their lives away. The program is economically unacceptable, that is undeniable, school board members belittling the mission and value of the program with moronic innuendo is unacceptable.

  • new world ogre posted at 12:58 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    new world ogre Posts: 35

    Why Not....hmmmm another gov't worker. We're being over run by dwarves. I don't recall anybody talkin 'bout religous issues here. Why Not has hurt feelings again and is erecting those straw dogs I talked about. To him critcal thinking and tolerance are good as long as you agree with his and his dwarf friends position. If IB had showed any-ANY success then the school board would still be staffed with dwarves.
    Math problem for Why Not:
    IB----- $$$$s spent divided by # of students + results = not much

  • apathoid posted at 11:58 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    apathoid Posts: 211

    Mr. Ruskie is a burned out and bitter hippie who (unfortunately) teaches at Lake City High School. His rants are always angry, emotional, full of bluster and devoid of fact. It is pretty much impossible to take him seriously.

    Fact is, "critical thinking" existed LONG before the IB program and will thrive long past it's demise.

  • voxpop posted at 11:48 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    The author is a lefty whack job from way back and it's clearly displayed here. The issue for most people with IB isn't politics at all. It's the ROI. Very simply we taxpayers are far better off putting our limited resources into the kids who struggle rather than those who want to go to "Harvard and Yale and Princeton and Stanford and a host of other top-tier colleges." Those kids will be just fine. AP and dual enrollment will suffice to challenge our best kids and the funds spent on IB will be better aimed at the other end of the spectrum.

  • new world ogre posted at 11:44 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    new world ogre Posts: 35

    Global viewpoint? Mike, no generation in history has had such a vast, accessable and thorough knowledge of the world. Any child from their phone can go to Spain, know the GDP of Tonga, get a recipe for Swedish cookies-on line, skyped with a Swede..... tour the Lourve, etc, etc.etc. What are you taliking about. They can do this at home, in a car, anytime.
    Global education is everywhere. Take the good stuff from the IB program, google it, print it off and hand it to the kids to learn. There, that took and hour.
    With the rest of the day let's create a Multicultural World Global Math Program.
    Oly has one lutefisk. Swen has 2 lutefisk. How many lutefisk.....?
    Me thinks you are a gov't employee. Retired maybe.

  • Why Not posted at 11:43 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    Why Not Posts: 5326

    Our lust for instant gratification will indeed bite us in the backside sooner rather than later, but those who are so radically against critical thinking skills where historical fact and scientific discovery counter their religious beliefs are the greatest danger of all.

  • greyhound2 posted at 11:24 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    greyhound2 Posts: 897

    Private for-profit colleges and universities prey on people without the qualifications to get into a regular college. These people are misled to pursue worthless degrees and saddled with debt they will never be able to repay. One of the biggest groups being ripped off are ex-military where the GI Bill can be raided. In few other cases does it pay more to do your homework before you sign the bottom line. If you are getting the degree for a job, would an employer hire you if you are that stupid.

  • 5inPfs posted at 11:19 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2012.

    5inPfs Posts: 771

    Oh sweet sarcasm.... :)

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