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Hall speaks at North Idaho Democracy Dinner

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Posted: Sunday, April 21, 2013 12:00 am | Updated: 10:17 am, Mon Apr 22, 2013.

WORLEY - "America the gullible."

Bill Hall repeated the phrase several times Saturday at the Coeur d'Alene Casino, while speaking at the 11th annual North Idaho Democracy Dinner hosted by the Kootenai County Democrats.

Hall, a former political columnist and longtime editorial page editor for the Lewiston Tribune, said he's troubled by today's electorate.

"They have abandoned their homework as voters," Hall said to the roughly 150 people at the dinner.

Today's voters are less informed and more self-absorbed, he said, and it is the voters themselves who are responsible for breeding "uncommonly cowardly members of Congress," whose greatest fear is that they will have to leave Congress. It is a fear that causes the politicians to bow down to lobbyists and "group think" rather than stand up for what they believe in, Hall said.

People are too quick to listen to and believe information coming to them on the radio, television, the Internet and in chain emails, Hall said.

Part of the problem, he said is that it's easy to avoid the news, and there is an overabundance of "one-sided opinions peddled by extremists on the left and the right."

He offered some solutions to help solve our nation's economic problems and ease the divisive nature of today's politics.

Hall suggested the government levy a 10 percent surcharge on everyone's income tax every time the nation goes to war.

"Going to war should put everybody's skin on the line ... everybody goes to war or nobody goes to war," he said.

The states of Iowa and New Hampshire should be thrown out of the nation, he said tongue-in-cheek, suggesting how to level the playing field during presidential primary campaigns.

His real solution is to create a national primary day, so everyone votes at the same time.

Regardless of economic status, each individual has one vote, he said, and then questioned why it's OK for the rich to be able to swing votes with their money.

"Let's limit every citizen and corporation to no more than a $100 contribution per campaign," he said.

He urged the crowd to consider the quality of the news they receive, and where it is coming from.

Most commentators on cable news stations are "daylong, servile stooges of the Democratic or Republican parties," he said.

That type of information doesn't enlighten, he said, "it is a process of keeping minds closed."

He said he receives "massively assertive emails" full of lies, slander and misinformation, and they come from all sides of the political spectrum.

Hall takes greater issue with the individuals who created the messages than those who he receives them from.

"They are the gullible victims of those liars," he said.

Hall encouraged those at the dinner to check the facts, to use the Internet - fact-checking sites like - to prove or disprove what they are told, or emailed.

"America the gullible has too many minds welded shut on the left or the right," he said.

When making decisions, Hall said citizens shouldn't think about what is the liberal or conservative thing to do: "Ask yourself, 'What is the right thing to do?"

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  • max power posted at 11:19 am on Tue, Apr 23, 2013.

    max power Posts: 559

    *** Typical Libtard Response ***

    Use the Boston Marathon Bombings to propose some hogwash about rebuilding America with a carbon tax. Next you idiots will want to tax oxygen! Tax & Spend so you can Spend & Tax!

    Comrade Obama already had a bite at rebuilding America's infrastructure with his 889 billion dollar( 1 trillion with interest ) porkulus stimulus bill that failed! The nation is approaching a 17 trillion dollar national debt. Enough with the spending! Put the shovel down and stop digging and looking for new ways to tax. Time to stop the social engineering and social justice b.s. and live within your means...

  • Screen Name posted at 6:00 am on Tue, Apr 23, 2013.

    Screen Name Posts: 757

    Max power: You are the poster child for mis-information. I suggest you read the piece yourself. What the author said is that we as a country need to rebuild our economy and one way to accomplish that is through a carbon tax.

    Entire piece here:

    A portion of the opinion piece here:

    Rebuilding our strength has to start with healing our economy. In that regard, it feels as if our budget drama has dragged on for so long that it has not only been drained of all emotional energy but nobody even remembers the plot anymore. It’s worth recalling: What are we trying to do?

    We’re trying to put America back on a sustainable growth track that will expand employment, strengthen our fiscal balance sheet to withstand future crises and generate resources to sustain the most needy and propel the next generation. That requires three things: We need to keep investing in the engines of our growth — infrastructure, government-financed research, education, immigration and regulations that incentivize risk-taking but prevent recklessness. We need to reform Social Security and Medicare so they can support all the baby boomers about to retire. And we need to raise more revenues, in the least painful way possible, because we can’t just cut everything. As I’ve said, you can lose weight quickly by cutting off both thumbs, but that will be a problem at work.

    It was good to see President Obama put out a budget proposal that addressed all three needs. The attacks on him from the left are unfair because, ultimately, we will need to do all three even more. As Bloomberg News reported on Monday: “Typical wage-earners retiring in 2010 will receive at least $3 for every $1 they contributed to the Medicare health-insurance program, according to an Urban Institute study.” That’s unsustainable. The Republican budget plan, though, would cut so much so fast — including taxes — that it would leave virtually nothing for investing in our growth engines. That’s irresponsible.

    So what to do? We need a more “radical center” — one much more willing to suggest radically new ideas to raise revenues, not the “split-the-difference-between-the-same-old-options center.” And the best place to start is with a carbon tax.

  • aayupp posted at 12:44 pm on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    aayupp Posts: 311

    "The states of Iowa and New Hampshire should be thrown out of the nation, he said tongue-in-cheek, suggesting how to level the playing field during presidential primary campaigns."

    your joking right? come on man -NH is my home state. hahah. and i have lived in iowa another great state compared with helpless idaho! but, i agree with mr hall on many other issues he brings up. and getting western states more involved earlier in the process.

  • boohoo2U posted at 10:18 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    yeah, but Al Gore sure would be a lot richer. It would also help Britain's financial and austerity woes.
    Not many know Big Al's carbon credit corporation is registered in London.
    Sounds more like strong arm blackmail. Maybe that's what Mz. Obama went to the Boston hospital to discuss with the surviving terrorist.

  • max power posted at 8:35 am on Mon, Apr 22, 2013.

    max power Posts: 559

    *** Carbon Tax To Keep U.S. Safe From Terrorism?! ***

    New York Times libtard mouthspeak Tom Friedman urges carbon tax to fix America post Boston terror! "Until we finally understand what turned two brothers who allegedly perpetrated the Boston Marathon bombings into murder, it is hard to make any policy recommendation other than this: We need to redouble our efforts to make America stronger and healthier so it remains a vibrant counterexample to whatever bigoted ideology may have gripped these young men. So what to do? The best place to start is with a carbon tax," said Friedman.

    "Attempting to parlay an act of terror to get a totally unrelated carbon tax passed is beyond stupid, however, it is the libtard way" - Jack Hammer

  • local res posted at 11:45 pm on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    local res Posts: 1164

    Bill tell me why the democrats are always looking for ways to remove my rights of fire arm ownership? Then tell us why we should vote for any democrat at any level of government.

  • local res posted at 11:42 pm on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    local res Posts: 1164

    If you really want an informed voters, do away with the ability to have taxes with held in a paycheck. If the sheep had to write a check to send in each payday you would see a different government. Cowards? I don't believe they were cowards who voted against infringing on "our" second amendment rights.

    Bill tell me why the democrats are always looking for ways to remove my rights of fire arm ownership? Then tell us why we should vote for any democrat at any level of government.

  • greyhound2 posted at 7:13 pm on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    greyhound2 Posts: 751

    It is unbelievable that both Bush and Kerry each spent about $4 million (a record) to get elected until Obama spent about $1 billion. (Even Bill Clinton took $32 million from the Communist Chinese in his 1996 re-election campign and signed MFN trading status to China which then destroyed the working middle class in America).

    A joke is when Sotomoyer, the AA quota, appeared before a Senate heating for a Supreme Court appointment and was asked if she still believed that campaign contributions were "bribes" answered "No" to get the job! So everybody does has a price some with cheaper than others.

  • boohoo2U posted at 12:56 pm on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    Any disease associated with Monsanto roundUp residue exposure will not be treated.
    I agree that's mean-spirited, but there is no cure for agent Orange - RoundUp poisoning.

    Mr. Hall suggests calming down and not taking medical science so seriously.
    Just what America would expect from a cheerleader: Don't Worry, Be Happy!

    How do YOU feel about being duped by politicians and culled by puppet-masters?

  • boohoo2U posted at 12:51 pm on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    after speaking with Mr. Hall and discovering as an editor his lack of knowledge of Freneau and his fawning over Obama, I conclude Bill is little more than a cheerleader for the DNC.

    Freneau & Rules for Changing the USA into a monarchy

    6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt, provided enough of it can be got and it be medicated with the proper ingredients. If by good fortune a debt be ready at hand, the most is to be made of it. Stretch it and swell it to the utmost the items will bear. Allow as many extra claims as decency will permit. Assume all the debts of your neighbors --- in a word, get as much debt as can be raked and scraped together, and when you have got all you can, "advertise" for more, and have the debt made as big as possible. This object being accomplished, the next will be to make it as perpetual as possible; and the next to that, to get it into as few hands as possible. The more effectually to bring this about, modify the debt, complicate it, divide it, subdivide it, subtract it, postpone it, let there be one-third of two-thirds, and two-thirds of one-third, and two-thirds of two-thirds; let there be 3 percents, and 4 percents, and 6 percents, and present 6 percents, and future 6 percents. To be brief, let the whole be such a mystery that a few only can understand it; and let all possible opportunities and informations fall in the way of these few, to clinch their advantages over the many.

    7. It must not be forgotten that the members of the legislative body are to have a deep stake in the game. This is an essential point, and happily is attended with no difficulty. A sufficient number, properly disposed, can alternately legislate and speculate, and speculate and legislate, and buy and sell, and sell and buy, until a due portion of the property of their constituents has passed into their hands to give them an interest against their constituents, and to ensure the part they are to act. All this, however, must be carried on under cover of the closest secrecy; and it is particularly lucky that dealings in paper admit of more secrecy than any other. Should a discovery take place, the whole plan may be blown up.

  • BoxcarBill posted at 11:58 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    BoxcarBill Posts: 1074

    The puppet masters have the biggest grins on their faces for they are amazed at how easily we are manipulated into serving them.
    Miles of string and billions in offshore accounts.
    Be proud America, it's how they control you.

  • Bob Loblaw posted at 10:56 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    Bob Loblaw Posts: 375

    Unbelievable irony here - the party responsible for dumbing-down the electorate is the Democrat party. Teachers' unions, anyone? And limiting corporate contributions is fine with me, AS LONG AS UNIONS have the same restrictions (Hypocrisy, anyone?). Obama has been more divisive and has degraded race relations worse than any politician in many decades. Look no further than the mirror, Mr. Hall, if you want to lay blame.

  • Screen Name posted at 10:29 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    Screen Name Posts: 757

    This post clearly illustrates the point of Mr. Hall. The alleged California legislation is from a piece of satire. It is a joke and people blindly believe it to be fact and then blindly spread the joke as fact. WAKE UP!

    Notice the piece is categorized as "satire"? Know what that means?

  • idahoguy posted at 10:02 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    idahoguy Posts: 932

    Fools also get side tracked into thinking about and talking about and just blogging about politicians, govt actions and social actions rather than working extra hard to stock up their supplies and increase their abilities to well handle any shortages and changes in the civilian environment.

    I could care less what some freaky politician says.... they are by and large sub human life forms in my eyes.

  • max power posted at 9:18 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    max power Posts: 559

    *** California Politicians Shine Light On Path That United States Congress Should Follow ***

    In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings, Calif State Senator Leland Yee, D-Frisco, and Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, have introduced companion bills calling for background checks on pressure cooker buyers.

    Not to be outdone in the liberal world of buffonery Calif State Senator Mark Leno, D-Frisco, and Assemblyman Philip Ting, D-Frisco, have introduced companion bills banning backpacks. The only exception would be for students being in public schools...

    "And liberals wonder why they're referred to as libtards" - Jack Hammer

  • capnbutch posted at 7:59 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    capnbutch Posts: 729

    Some time back I gave a similar talk to Republicans in Missoula. There were pleasant, non-threatening jokes and colorful graphics.

    The paper over there refused not only to print anything about the presentation but also refused to print any of the advance information.

    We are become increasingly a nation of people who cannot reason together.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:46 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    This idiot comes out & states that people are dumb becasue they voted for the congress.
    Ummm......MAYBE they are naive & gullible because they vote themselves money; AKA Obamacare & democratic white house?

    America is crashing because as a society, we're all victims who are owed by somebody, since we're American & breathing.

  • idahoguy posted at 6:23 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    idahoguy Posts: 932

    If you truly wish to do something ..then take into account what you need to live and survive daily/weekly/monthly. Then go about gathering enough of it all to last 2-3 years. Then develop the means and skills to hold onto it and last find a safer place to weather what is coming up around the bend. Regardless of what some horn blowers say about turning this country around....this will very possibly come down to survival of the fittest and coming to the point of recognizing this true starts by disbelieving most all the news, researching it yourself and looking at the clock striking the 11th hour....

    Most will perish from simple lack of knowledge.

  • voxpop posted at 5:56 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    "rather than stand up for what they believe in"

    The ONLY thing politicians believe in is where their next free lunch is coming from. They are as honest as your leeching brother in law. And as bad as that might be, the Idaho legislature is SO much worse.

  • boohoo2U posted at 4:38 am on Sun, Apr 21, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    Gullible enough to believe an Adobe PDF file with 9 layers and different fonts is an original.
    Gullible enough to believe quietly deporting Saudis immediately after terror attacks is just.
    Gullible enough to believe killing innocents for corporate gain is necessary.

    And now 'We the People' are chastised for our gullibility that makes voters psychologically incapable of questing the BS spewing from politicians. This news is not good and should strike terror in the hearts of most voters for their children and grandchildren. Radical transformation has come upon America without much resistance. Most believed the lies and elected politicians guilty of moral turpitude. America,like her presidents is in tatters.

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