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Will they pay to play?

Some users say fees no big deal, they pay them elsewhere

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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:00 am

HAYDEN - It might be the last summer of free boat launching at Hayden's Honeysuckle Beach.

The city is looking at launching new fees there.

Suzanne Cano, Hayden community services director, said Monday that the city is primarily aiming to offset maintenance costs. The boat launch and docks get a lot of use and wear.

The city's Parks and Recreation Commission recommended implementing the boat launch fees.

"I think our rates are very reasonable," Cano said.

The commission's recommended prices are $4 a day per boat, or $6 daily for non-Hayden residents. The daily access fee recommended for commercial users and water sports users would be $15.

Season passes would be $25 per boat for residents, $50 per boat for non-city residents, and $150 for commercial and water sports users.

Last week, the City Council directed the staff to continue work on preparing fees and a plan to implement them. The city would begin collecting the fees at the end of May 2011, using a fee-collection box, sometimes referred to as an "iron ranger."

Gabe Le of Hayden Lake said a $4 fee wouldn't stop him from continuing to regularly launch at Honeysuckle, which he estimated he does about 30 times each summer. He was out at the boat launch Monday.

He is charged around $4 at other lakes where he launches his boat, such as Twin Lakes or Fernan Lake.

He favors charging non-residents more money, but he would prefer to see everyone in Kootenai County get the city resident rate.

While boat launch fees at Honeysuckle wouldn't be a problem for him, he said, the lake does have some shortcomings when it comes to launching a boat.

"Some people are frustrated that there are only two launches on Hayden Lake," he said. "Everything else on the lake is really private."

Geoff Wait of Hayden Lake said, "I probably wouldn't mind a charge. I think that's fair."

He pays to launch at Lake Pend Oreille, Priest Lake and others.

Non-residents said fees at Honeysuckle wouldn't bother them, either.

Jeff Wells, of San Jose, Calif., said fees are a "non-issue" for him.

He would pay them, just like he does nearly every place he launches his boat, whether in North Idaho or in California.

"It's funny, when I get here (Honeysuckle) I'm always looking for someplace to pay," Wells said.

He buys annual passes at some places. And at others he pays daily launch fees, sometimes up to $8, plus parking.

He knows Honeysuckle can get busy sometimes, so he said he doesn't use the boat launch on the weekends.

Chase Pozzi, Vancouver, Wash., said he would like to see the current launch lane at Honeysuckle be widened. Another lane would be great, too, he said.

"This one is way too narrow," Pozzi said. "It's not easy to get out - it gets so crowded."

Along with Honeysuckle, he launches his boat at Coeur d'Alene and near his home in Vancouver, where he usually pays around $4, he said.

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12 comments:

  • cdares posted at 9:31 am on Wed, Jul 21, 2010.

    cdares Posts: 3

    If there going to have a fee thats ok. What dosn't make since is having a different fee for non-Haden residents. I can see a higher fee for out of state residents but its just ridiculas to have a higher fee for non-Hayden residents.

     
  • cdares posted at 9:29 am on Wed, Jul 21, 2010.

    cdares Posts: 3

    If there going to have a fee thats ok. What dosn't make since is having a different fee for non-Haden residents. I can see a higher fee for out of state residents but its just ridiculas to have a higher fee for non-Hayden residents.

     
  • cdares posted at 9:28 am on Wed, Jul 21, 2010.

    cdares Posts: 3

    If there going to have a fee thats ok. What dosn't make since is having a different fee for non-Haden residents. I can see a higher fee for out of state residents but its just ridiculas to have a higher fee for non-Hayden residents.

     
  • milburnschmidt posted at 8:18 pm on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1161

    It would be worth the money to pay someone to monitor the launching and taking out of boats on the weekends its a mess. The dumbest clueless people show up at boat ramps. If the ramp is city owned there is no problem with charging a fee as long as the money is pumped back into the maintenance and improving the docks. I have serval lovely scratches from unconnected pipes on the docks. Thank the state for all the washington boats who are encouraged to register their boats in Idaho for all the extra use. I wonder if the out of state boaters pay a higher fee than Idaho residents to register their boats. Seems like that could be raised to help out the cost which is rising due to Quagga mussels and Kootenai county launching fees also. Lot of money out there for the state and County to latch on to if we dont watch them.

     
  • yabetcha posted at 7:57 pm on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    yabetcha Posts: 27

    Can't believe the Press reporter could only find supporting comments. Kind of one sided, lazy or both.

     
  • efromm posted at 6:07 pm on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    efromm Posts: 676

    "efromm - I launch my boat (I'm a Hayden resident) at the launch almost every week and can tell you that the vast majority of the people launching their boats there are NOT Hayden residents in fact, a large number aren't even from Idaho (a lot from Washington State - just go there and look at the license plates on the empty boat trailers parked in the parking lot). Maybe instead of complaining, efromm, you should try and come up with a solution for paying for the maintenance of the beach and boat launch. Who do you suggest pay for that if not the people that actually use it?"

    So first of all I too am a Hayden resident. Second of all who is the city of Hayden? Is it not the citizens of Hayden who pay taxes? Second I was not complaining about anything just voicing my opinion. I did not know that too voice your opinion was complaining. The maintenance of the beach should be done by those who use it first of all. Does your mother come to clean your house for you still? Do you see garbage laying around? Why not pick it up? Why not be the solution before we need one? We got a jail full of volunteers. I see a lot of kids running around with nothing to do. Maybe instead of going boating why don't you volunteer your time too cleaning up the park and launch to prevent the fees? If it is someone else responsibility would you please tell me who? Because I remember learning in school that as a citizen of the community we need to give something back besides taxes. After all we are the government last I checked. Why are we paying taxes upon taxes to use something we the citizens of Hayden own? You know there are a lot of summer residents from out of state that own very expensive lake front property is it fair to charge them more when they are already paying high taxes?

    Population increase coupled with a launch that is too small with inadequate parking equals irritated locals. I was ran out of that launch years ago.

     
  • bikemtn posted at 10:25 am on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    bikemtn Posts: 4

    I am for the fees. I too am a Hayden resident, but sometimes avoid that launch just due to the fact that it can become seriously congested! I would rather drive to the sportsman access than deal with the challenge on the ramp....and hiking back from my parking spot a mile away! Fees will hopefully reduce some of the excess use.

     
  • Triumph posted at 9:21 am on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    Triumph Posts: 558

    Take it easy haydenres. I'm a res too and I use that launch also. We've got a great lake here and sharing it with others is ok. It brings people in to Hayden and hopefully those folks spend money at our Hayden businesses. The city of Hayden does own the boat launches and the park. City funds paid for the facility and maintains it too. It can't be that expensive to maintain that area. Cant be that difficult either. Lets find another way. I don't want to pay a fee.

     
  • Hardworker posted at 9:16 am on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    Hardworker Posts: 36

    If you can already afford a boat and fuel itself, then what's another $4 bucks?!! Honestly....

     
  • haydenres posted at 8:38 am on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    haydenres Posts: 92

    You are both wrong. The Hayden Lake boat launch at Honeysuckle Beach belongs to the City of Hayden and boat registration fees DO NOT supplement the launch. Fish & Game are NOT part owners of the ramp. efromm - I launch my boat (I'm a Hayden resident) at the launch almost every week and can tell you that the vast majority of the people launching their boats there are NOT Hayden residents; in fact, a large number aren't even from Idaho (a lot from Washington State - just go there and look at the license plates on the empty boat trailers parked in the parking lot). Maybe instead of complaining, efromm, you should try and come up with a solution for paying for the maintenance of the beach and boat launch. Who do you suggest pay for that if not the people that actually use it?

     
  • local res posted at 6:22 am on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    local res Posts: 1164

    I agree with efromm, Boat fees are already covered by the boat registration. Before hayden sets up to do this perhaps they should look and see if the Fish & Game are part owners of this ramp. Was F&G funds used to construct the launch? If there should be no fee allowed.

     
  • efromm posted at 5:38 am on Tue, Jul 20, 2010.

    efromm Posts: 676

    I am sorry but why are we paying registration fees? This used to be a nice town that locals could enjoy and play. Now it's enjoy and pay. What's next paying for using the bathrooms? How much are you going to charge for using the beach?

     
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