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Hundley surrenders to FBI agents prior to going before judge

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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:00 am | Updated: 12:35 am, Wed Feb 20, 2013.

COEUR d'ALENE - The former president of a Hayden manufacturing company accused of slapping a 2-year-old boy and calling him a racial slur on an airplane was arrested and then released on Tuesday.

Joe Rickey (Rick) Hundley, 60, was released by U.S. Magistrate Judge Mikel H. Williams following the suspect's initial appearance Tuesday at the federal courthouse in Coeur d'Alene.

Hundley surrendered to FBI agents earlier in the day, before going before the judge around 11 a.m.

As part of his release, Hundley cannot drink alcohol or possess firearms, must surrender his passport and cannot travel outside Idaho, the Eastern Washington district or the northern district of Georgia, where the case will be scheduled to go to trial.

The judge also ordered a $10,000 unsecured bond, meaning Hundley would owe the government if he failed to show for court proceedings.

Hundley declined to comment Tuesday, and referred questions to his attorney, Marcia G. Shein, of Decatur, Ga., who didn't return a message from The Press.

"That's all I'm saying," he said.

Hundley was the president of Unitech Composites and Structures in Hayden before the company fired him in light of the incident that has made international headlines. The company, a large manufacturer of composite products for aerospace, transportation, military, commercial and industrial applications, confirmed the firing Monday.

Hundley is accused of slapping the toddler Feb. 8 on a Minneapolis-to-Atlanta flight and telling the boy's mother, 33-year-old Minnesota resident Jessica Bennett, to "shut that (racial slur) baby up," according to the criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court, for the northern district of Georgia.

The mother was trying to quiet her son who began crying because of the change in altitude on Delta Air Lines Flight 721, the complaint said. Bennett said Hundley had consumed several double vodkas on the flight and the slap injured the adopted boy's eye.

Hundley "reeked of alcohol," Bennett told The Smoking Gun website, which broke the story. Hundley spoke to the same publication and denied slapping the child and using a racial slur.

Hundley's trial will take place in Georgia, U.S. attorney office representatives in Georgia and Idaho said. The date wasn't available Tuesday.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Suzette Smikle will handle the case. The office declined to comment Tuesday.

Hundley was arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol March 13 of last year on Seltice Way in Post Falls. He registered a .179/.174 blood alcohol content, according to 1st District Court records. He was fined $800 for the infraction and lost his driver's license for 90 days.

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  • Joseph Jr posted at 9:20 pm on Sun, Feb 24, 2013.

    Joseph Jr Posts: 512

    Since the CDA Press is not going to publish my post, let me try to condense my thoughts.

    The child will forget this, IF the parents do not mention this again. Let the fed's do their job, and take care of this guy.

     
  • Joseph Jr posted at 9:22 am on Sun, Feb 24, 2013.

    Joseph Jr Posts: 512

    It is my opinion, this family should stop peddling their story to the news. There can only be one rason, a parent(s) would want their chlld in the news. ATTENTION for the ADULTS.

    Sadly, I believe this little boy has will suffer greatly as a result of his parents continuing publicly with this.

    If this were to happen to my child at such a young age, I would NEVER allow the child to know. The child will likely (almost for certain) not remember this on his own.

    Maybe a lawyer should be assigned to the child, for emotional protection? It is shocking what people will do for attention and possibly compen$ation.

    I am sad for the child.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 10:03 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "DO you think that all of the people that folks like you have convinced of the stability of the market shoudl stay, or get out?"

    Just like real estate where your house is only worth what you sell in for, nobody should believe that the stock market is stable. There is always risk, it is a form of gambling. People who don't understand that end up fearing that the world is going to end during a down cycle.

    When Warren Buffet cashes out, so will I.


    Re: "I was with ANOTHER economics professor yesterday, he's buying (another) Prepper property, course; he's just another "right wing nut" except he voted for blowbama...."

    Used to work for an economics professor. He told me that I would never make it in this world. Now that I'm older I realize that there is a big difference between those who have read every book about climbing Mount Everest and those who have actually climbed the mountain.

    Not sure how many bomb shelters one can live in at once, but I hope owning multiple "Prepper Properties" makes the professor happy.

    My Dad's been buying up land around the family compound in Montana for decades. He's getting older now, just might die before his fears come true. I'm more afraid of that than I am of anything really bad happening in America.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 7:14 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    GM sez:
    "The role of the government is wealth re-distribution, not accumulation"
    And there you have it folks, straight from the mouth of a lib; "wealth redistribution", other wise stated as "if you have money, the government needs to take itaway & give it to those more needy".
    Freedoms=GONE.

    "Have a problem with capitalism Joe"?
    Have a BIG problem with hypocritical thinkng, GM.
    According to YOUR party, the "rich:" are the problem, they don't pay their share of taxes, the businesses they own came from government, they're genrally bad people.
    And blowbama's making them richer.

    "When I stop making money, I'll worry"
    I'd start worrying today.
    CEO's & other that have in company stock are cashing out at a 12 to 1 margin, individual investors are gonna get burned soon. Here it comes....

    ."Cashed out after GWB's bail out of Bear Stearns failed to stop the skid. Went back "all in" when the DOW dipped below 7,000. Now we've hit 14,000. Feel more like celebrating than I do planning for the end of the world"
    Good for you GM, genuinely. You beat the market, and I'm happy for you.
    Now, all of those "profits" that you mentioned before, they're getting ready to go up in smoke. DO you think that all of the people that folks like you have convinced of the stability of the market shoudl stay, or get out?

    "Keep talking end of the world Joe, every time the market blips 200 points either way because of something said on Faux News, think of me grabbing an easy 5% on the swing cycle"
    Good, enjoy it while you can, GM.
    I was with ANOTHER economics professor yesterday, he's buying (another) Prepper property, course; he's just another "right wing nut" except he voted for blowbama....but HEY, WHY would there be a problem when we can just print mo money?

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 8:32 pm on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "My POINT was that government wasn't a profitable entity"

    Nor should it be. The role of the government is wealth re-distribution, not accumulation.


    Re: "The VAST majority of people in the market now are insitutional investors, not main street individuals. The individuals are who lost a ridiculous amount of money before; NOW it's the big guys, the bankers, the "investors" who are making big coin."

    Have a problem with capitalism Joe?


    Re: "Your ability to deny, even unto yourself, is superb"

    When I stop making money, I'll worry. Cashed out after GWB's bail out of Bear Stearns failed to stop the skid. Went back "all in" when the DOW dipped below 7,000. Now we've hit 14,000. Feel more like celebrating than I do planning for the end of the world.

    Keep talking end of the world Joe, every time the market blips 200 points either way because of something said on Faux News, think of me grabbing an easy 5% on the swing cycle.

    I love this country!

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 7:02 pm on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    GM...sez:
    "Quitting your job to look for work is not a very smart thing to do. Suggest that those folks work harder at their existing jobs instead on quitting"
    WHATever that means. (This is the kind of response you get when you tell a lib that 2.7 MILLION people stopped looking for work because there is...none).

    I told GM that government isn't profitable, and he tells us how much money he makes frmo the government:

    "I've made a lot of money over the years on government projects. Lots of new stuff on the radar too"
    My POINT was that government wasn't a profitable entity; your response was that you "get as much as you can from it".

    "Private sector work is starting to move also. January 2013 building permits for new residential construction are up 32% over January of 2012!"
    SUrrre they are....don;t you see all the new jobs everywhere? ONLY 157,000 NEW jobless claims; it's FIXED!!!

    "With the Dow breaching 14,000, shareholders and investors have recovered the more than $8 trillion in wealth lost during the recession and attained levels of wealth they haven't seen since the Roaring Oughts"
    Now this is one of the funniest parts, for me.
    The VAST majority of people in the market now are insitutional investors, not main street individuals. The individuals are who lost a ridiculous amount of money before; NOW it's the big guys, the bankers, the "investors" who are making big coin. And they're scared, too.
    I WONDER why?
    I mean, the fundamentals are there, government is spending big money.....oh yeah... no fundamentals.

    "The population of millionaires in America is now at or above its 2007 high (According to Spectrem Group, the wealth research firm) there are about 9 million American households with investible assets of $1 million or more"
    Awes shucks, GM, that's GREAT. According to you, the millionaires (who the libs hate) are doing spectacular, and the poor are getting poorer, what's not to cheer about?
    The AMAZING thing is that the poor & middle class, who get punished the worst in the end, still vote for the moron in chief.

    "Not sure why you think this means that the sky is falling"
    INcrdible to me that people like you, so articulate, can literally not see the sky when it IS falling.
    Your ability to deny, even unto yourself, is superb.

    "Maybe in Monopoly, you think that it's a bad sign when other players land on your properties?"
    You're the same guy that said "
    "the Japanese would never attack us" and "Hitler's only interested in Europe". The same people who said "you can't beat the mighty British" and the same ones who said "I'd never go to war to free a slave".

    And then REPUBLICANS freed the slaves against the wishes of SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 10:17 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "That's GREAT considering they decided to not COUNT another 2.7 MILLION people who just decided to quit looking for work...."

    Quitting your job to look for work is not a very smart thing to do. Suggest that those folks work harder at their existing jobs instead on quitting.


    Re: "See; the problem, GM, is that government work isn't PROFITABLE or especially sustainable"

    Wrong. I've made a lot of money over the years on government projects. Lots of new stuff on the radar too. Private sector work is starting to move also. January 2013 building permits for new residential construction are up 32% over January of 2012!

    With the Dow breaching 14,000, shareholders and investors have recovered the more than $8 trillion in wealth lost during the recession and attained levels of wealth they haven't seen since the Roaring Oughts.

    The population of millionaires in America is now at or above its 2007 high (According to Spectrem Group, the wealth research firm) there are about 9 million American households with investible assets of $1 million or more.

    Not sure why you think this means that the sky is falling. Maybe in Monopoly, you think that it's a bad sign when other players land on your properties?

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 10:00 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "I didnt care one bit about how the stock market was performing. Maybe it was doubling our national debt that made the stock market do so well "

    Not caring, ignorance and somewhat bizarre conclusions... Bet you vote Republican?

    Even elementary school conservatives know that when the stock market goes up, money is being made. When money is made, new projects are started, jobs are created, tax revenues increase, the rich get richer, etc... This is what the Republicans stand for!

    Pretty basic stuff. Still, kind of fun teaching a Right Wing dude how Conservative thinking works.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 3:24 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Triumph+1!

    GM sez:
    "President Obama just used his communist powers to push the DOW over 14,000 for the first time since October 2007. So far this year, the DOW has gained almost 7% - Go communism"!
    GM, I was HOPEFUL that you'd use that.
    There is NO reason whatsoever for the markets to be at all time highs, none whatsoever. The only reason that is happenning is because of the markets' utter reliance on thepremise that blowbama & his fully irresponsible fiscal policies will continue. The market is now set for a meltdown of EPIC proportions, it's coming, and I suggest you stay in it for the ride down. Take a parachute.

    "For the month of January, USA stocks experienced the best month in two decades"
    That's because of a number of things that happened that were "not horrible" instead of things that were "amazing". The markets have now swallowed mediocrity; this is the result, vastly overvalued stocks, along with a collapsing dollar.
    "Construction spending rose"
    Sure, as long as GOVERNMENT keeps floating imaginary constructin projects, you get a SMALL rise in construction, take away the govt highway projects, and construction is DISMAL at best. See; the problem, GM, is that government work isn't PROFITABLE or especially sustainable.

    "ISM manufacturing data beat expectations and the country added 157,000 jobs"
    Added 157,000 jobs, huh?
    That's GREAT considering they decided to not COUNT another 2.7 MILLION people who just decided to quit looking for work....

    "If the President is really trying to tear America apart, he's not doing a very good job of it"
    Totally disagree.
    The economy is heading for big trouble in the months ahead...

    #1 Freight shipment volumes have hit their lowest level in two years, and freight expenditures have gone negative for the first time since the last recession.

    #2 The average price of a gallon of gasoline has risen by more than 50 cents over the past two months. This is making things tougher on our economy, because nearly every form of economic activity involves moving people or goods around.

    #3 Reader's Digest, once one of the most popular magazines in the world, has filed for bankruptcy.

    #4 Atlantic City's newest casino, Revel, has just filed for bankruptcy. It had been hoped that Revel would help lead a turnaround for Atlantic City.

    #5 A state-appointed review board has determined that there is "no satisfactory plan" to solve Detroit's financial emergency, and many believe that bankruptcy is imminent. If Detroit does declare bankruptcy, it will be the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history.

    #6 David Gallagher, the CEO of Town Sports International, recently said that his company is struggling right now because consumers simply do not have as much disposable income anymore...

    "As we moved into January membership trends were tracking to expectations in the first half of the month, but fell off track and did not meet our expectations in the second half of the month. We believe the driver of this was the rapid decline in consumer sentiment that has been reported and is connected to the reduction in net pay consumers earn given the changes in tax rates that went into effect in January."

    #7 According to the Conference Board, consumer confidence in the U.S. has hit its lowest level in more than a year.

    #8 Sales of the Apple iPhone have been slower than projected, and as a result Chinese manufacturing giant FoxConn has instituted a hiring freeze. The following is from a CNET report that was posted on Wednesday...

    The Financial Times noted that it was the first time since a 2009 downturn that the company opted to halt hiring in all of its facilities across the country. The publication talked to multiple recruiters.

    The actions taken by Foxconn fuel the concern over the perceived weakened demand for the iPhone 5 and slumping sentiment around Apple in general, with production activity a leading indicator of interest in the product.

    #9 In 2012, global cell phone sales posted their first decline since the end of the last recession.

    #10 We appear to be in the midst of a "retail apocalypse". It is being projected that Sears, J.C. Penney, Best Buy and RadioShack will also close hundreds of stores by the end of 2013.

    #11 An internal memo authored by a Wal-Mart executive that was recently leaked to the press said that February sales were a "total disaster" and that the beginning of February was the "worst start to a month I have seen in my ~7 years with the company."

    #12 If Congress does not do anything and "sequestration" goes into effect on March 1st, the Pentagon says that approximately 800,000 civilian employees will be facing mandatory furloughs.

    #13 Barack Obama is admitting that the "sequester" could have a crippling impact on the U.S. economy. The following is from a recent CNBC article...

    "Obama cautioned that if the $85 billion in immediate cuts -- known as the sequester -- occur, the full range of government would feel the effects. Among those he listed: furloughed FBI agents, reductions in spending for communities to pay police and fire personnel and teachers, and decreased ability to respond to threats around the world"

    He said the consequences would be felt across the economy.

    "People will lose their jobs," he said. "The unemployment rate might tick up again."

    #14 If the "sequester" is allowed to go into effect, the CBO is projecting that it will cause U.S. GDP growth to go down by at least 0.6 percent and that it will "reduce job growth by 750,000 jobs".

    #15 According to a recent Gallup survey, 65 percent of all Americans believe that 2013 will be a year of "economic difficulty", and 50 percent of all Americans believe that the "best days" of America are now in the past.

    #16 U.S. GDP actually contracted at an annual rate of 0.1 percent during the fourth quarter of 2012. This was the first GDP contraction that the official numbers have shown in more than three years.

    #17 For the entire year of 2012, U.S. GDP growth was only about 1.5 percent. According to Art Cashin, every time GDP growth has fallen this low for an entire year, the U.S. economy has always ended up going into a recession.

    #18 The global economy overall is really starting to slow down...

    The world's richest countries saw their economies contract for the first time in almost four years during the final three months of 2012, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said.

    The Paris-based thinktank said gross domestic product across its 34 member states fell by 0.2% – breaking a period of rising activity stretching back to a 2.3% slump in output in the first quarter of 2009.

    All the major economies of the OECD – the US, Japan, Germany, France, Italy and the UK – have already reported falls in output at the end of 2012, with the thinktank noting that the steepest declines had been seen in the European Union, where GDP fell by 0.5%. Canada is the only member of the G7 currently on course to register an increase in national output.

    #19 Corporate insiders are dumping enormous amounts of stock right now. Do they know something that we don't?

    #20 Even some of the biggest names on Wall Street are warning that we are heading for an economic collapse. For example, Seth Klarman, one of the most respected investors on Wall Street, said in his year-end letter that the collapse of the U.S. financial system could happen at any time...

    Keep believin' GM, just make sure your stocks aren't the last ones being sold because you're SO SURE the Kenyan "means well".

     
  • Triumph posted at 11:32 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Triumph Posts: 540

    Hey GM. I'm pretty sure the 50 million plus on food stamps, the 8% unemployed, or the 20% of Americans earning $10 per hour or less; dont give a rats behind about the stock market. When I filled up my gas tank today at a price double that of when the president took office, I didnt care one bit about how the stock market was performing. Maybe it was doubling our national debt that made the stock market do so well. Maybe our grandkids and great grand kids will be forced to sell of their stocks to pay off the debt we are piling on every day. You're a dunce.....

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 10:31 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    That's what she said.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 9:29 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    We interrupt this episode of Wilted Flower Children to remind you kids that drugs can not only kill you, they may lead to far right behavior, or Joe & Jill Syndrome as it's known 'round these parts.

    Just say no!

    We now return to more talk about about how "I used to drugs but now I vote Republican"

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 9:18 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "I HAVE empathy, for dogs & conservatives who are attacked by LIBERALS"
    Just spoke with my dog, he doesn't appreciate that you used the words dogs and conservatives in the same sentence.


    Re: "... blownbama IS a communist, and a Kenyan, for certain, and I do believe he is all about tearing America apart. Just facts, GM. Only"

    Here's a few facts Joe, President Obama just used his communist powers to push the DOW over 14,000 for the first time since October 2007. So far this year, the DOW has gained almost 7% - Go communism!

    For the month of January, USA stocks experienced the best month in two decades. Construction spending rose, ISM manufacturing data beat expectations and the country added 157,000 jobs.

    If the President is really trying to tear America apart, he's not doing a very good job of it.

     
  • seapacnw posted at 9:09 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    seapacnw Posts: 11

    The "feeding frenzy" is typical of anti-Whites looking to take down any White person who strays from the program, i.e. using the "N-Word".

    Seen a lot following on sites covering the story:

    Guilt by association - Because Mr. Hundley is from Hayden, ID and the Aryan Nations was head-quartered in Hayden, ID... therefore Mr. Hundley must be a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews!

    Those "do gooders" like to say they are anti-racist but what they are is anti-White.
    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 8:23 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    (Oh this is also gonna be fun)

    GM Sez:
    "Prepper Girls are different I guess"
    Wasn't talking about Prepper Girls, GM. I was talking about uneducated liberal city girls, demo voters frmo nightclubs in the cities, no morals whatsoever, had PLENTY of bad habits, ones thta PRETTY Prepper girls would never think of having. From my former life, when I was pretty much the devil. (himself.)

    "But then again, what else would you expect from a girl willing to live out her life in a bomb shelter eating canned goods and drinking Ensure with an old dude dressed in camouflage who's ready to shoot anything that moves"?
    Do me a favor, and KEEP thinking all of that. Keeps your ability to stereotype people alive & well.

    (Followed with a Counseling Session from Dr GM:)
    "Joe, need you to work on the sociopath thing"
    Why?
    I hate liberals, it won't change, no matter what.

    "A little bit of empathy goes along way"
    I HAVE empathy, for dogs & conservatives who are attacked by LIBERALS.

    "There's no reasonable reason for you to use the "N" word"
    Used it last a little whille back, been clean since then. Went to my NWA (N Words Anonymous) meetings on a fairly regular basis, one day at a time...

    "Move on like the rest of the Far Right... Communist, Kenyan and Terrorist have all been used by bigots in search of a substitute for the "N" word to express their hate for our President"
    Nope, uh no way, blownbama IS a communist, and a Kenyan, for certain, and I do believe he is all about tearing America apart. Just facts, GM. Only.

    "There are other ways to convey despicable intent, simply watch Faux News for examples"
    Or maybe Rachel Maddow; or Matthews; talk about despicable.
    HOW do you guys see those 10000% morons as half intelligent?

    (ANSWER: "as long as they keep givin me stuff, I'm VOTIN' FOR THEM!)

     
  • seapacnw posted at 8:15 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    seapacnw Posts: 11

    @BlkxDragon

    "a real man" haha
    If being "a real man" means being a brain-dead anti-White, you've nailed it. Congratulations.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 8:14 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    I think so too, Floorist.
    IF the guy really did slap the kid, and use the N word, sure, crunch 'em. But the idea that it's all FACT & that it's just that simple, you know, the WHOEL airplane full of people sat & watched & heard it all.....nah, I don't buy it.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 8:12 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Jill-
    I am myself a forner hippie, went to the Army that cured that. I have nothing against them and am sorry to have used the phrase, knowing that you are in the group, and I did use it derogatorily.
    Next time, I'll just use my good; solid "COMMUNIST" for the mongers of blowbamaland.
    Have a nice night- JI.

     
  • Jill Heine posted at 7:26 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Jill Heine Posts: 408

    Hey Joe, see below

     
  • Jill Heine posted at 7:23 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Jill Heine Posts: 408

    "riled you hippes pretty good, huh? "

    Hey Joe, I resemble that remark! You'd be surprised the percentage of Hippies that aren't in the politically correct camp of delusion. 420 is progressing nicely here for those in pain. Washington, land of the libertard progressives and home for many Hippies, would be my choice if I knew then what I know now. Too late to whine. My disabled FWB just REFI'd his home, so all is good. CONFESSION: I inhaled! Not a molecule was wasted, and I did not slap a child for my indiscretion.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 6:56 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "You haven't met the right woman, GM. (Course, not my problem...) I've had them ask me to call them much worse....and they liked it, too."

    Prepper Girls are different I guess. But then again, what else would you expect from a girl willing to live out her life in a bomb shelter eating canned goods and drinking Ensure with an old dude dressed in camouflage who's ready to shoot anything that moves?

    Meanwhile above ground...

    Joe, need you to work on the sociopath thing. A little bit of empathy goes along way. There's no reasonable reason for you to use the "N" word. Move on like the rest of the Far Right... Communist, Kenyan and Terrorist have all been used by bigots in search of a substitute for the "N" word to express their hate for our President. There are other ways to convey despicable intent, simply watch Faux News for examples.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 6:08 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    *** Goodwill GM, by SuperJoe ***

    So GM says, if someone used the N word, that means that they are a racist. Hmmm.....does that apply to ALL people; or ONLY white people? Another Hmmmm....

    And then he tells us all that the REST of the bigoted phrases are "on lmnits", so if I went up to a black person, and started using words like "watermelon carrier" or "spearchucker", or if I went up to a white guy & called him a "honky", that'd be OK, actually to use GM's words; "reasonable".

    Wow.

    And then, my word policeman, GM, tells me what words I CAN use, and ones I CAN'T use, based on HIS experience. Like any good lib, he's got no problem WHATSOEVER abridging my rights to FREE speech, in order to keep his world clinically safe.

    As a matter of act, he says this:

    "Don't matter what Whoopi says, the "C" word is off limits for me and you"

    "Believe me Joe, I've tried, never been able to convince a woman that the "C" word is flattering when used in the proper context"
    You haven't met the right woman, GM. (Course, not my problem...) I've had them ask me to call them much worse....and they liked it, too.

    "My experience, it makes women cuss at you like a sailor. "C" word bad"!
    Again, you gotta find the RIGHT girl, at the RIGHT time of her life, with an open mind....I've had a lot of fun with this, ask me how...(no don't).

    "The "B" word on the other hand... girls can call each other that one, but once again, it's off limits for me and you"
    Nope, wrongo, 100%.
    I've had fun calling women that, (IN fun) and also called them that directly, meaning every bit of it. Had them call me the male version of it, too, and THEY meant every bit of it. Happens, live a little.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 5:59 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    I agree with you, Floorist. (Notice I capitalized your name...?;-)

    I just think that whatever happened on that plane has been sensationalized to a feeding frenzy of SUPPOSEDLY do gooders; folks liek GM & fattopro who think that they somehow "know" that all white people are "racists" and if you have used an epithet in your life, you're OBVIOUSLY a klan leader.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 5:47 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    *** Educating Joe, By GM ***

    Re: "... if someone uses the "N WORD" they're a "racist"
    Correct.


    Re: "... are all of the rest of the BIGOTED phrases "on limits"?
    That's reasonable


    Re: "I guess it's not "off limits" for her, huh?"
    Don't matter what Whoopi says, the "C" word is off limits for me and you. Believe me Joe, I've tried, never been able to convince a woman that the "C" word is flattering when used in the proper context. My experience, it makes women cuss at you like a sailor. "C" word bad! The "B" word on the other hand... girls can call each other that one, but once again, it's off limits for me and you.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 5:15 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    *** Fun with GM***

    "Joe says that The N Word is "Derogatory" and "Offensive" - I agree. Joe then says that is is also a Word, nothing more - Actually, there is more, and Joe said it..The N Word is "Derogatory" and "Offensive"
    Yes, and SO WHAT?

    I find it offensive that there is a complete double standard on the entire issue, and it's OK for libs to use "honky" or "cracker" or anything else they can, BUT if someone uses the "N WORD" they're a "racist".

    "When will White Folks understand... The "N" word is off limits"
    Why then, GM, are all of the rest of the BIGOTED phrases "on limits"? I BET I actually USE the "N" word here, the software wouldn't allow it, BUT if I use any of the anti-white phrases, they're OK.
    Why is that, since we're all "equal"?

    "Same as how the "C" word is off limits for men when talking about Women. Think the "C" word is just a word, trying using it around your mom, wife or daughters"!
    Depends on who you're talking about. Whoppi Goldberg uses it in her routine, routinely, and there's no dustup over it. I guess it's not "off limits" for her, huh?
    Depends on the crowd....I was in the service, and I have heard it all. Every phrase, racial, women vs men, men vs women, all of it. Bottom line is that as a society, we are TOO careful; folks like GM & you other commies are the "word police" and the FACT is that if we actually SAID what we THINK more often, things would be a LOT better.
    Bill Cosby denigrated his own race, and took a lot of "heat" fot it when he said that black men needed to be more responsible, too many kids out of wedlock, too many black men needed to get real jobs, etc. He told the TRUTH, and if he'd have been white, you FOOLS would have had him nailed as the head of the Klu Klux Klan.
    Instead, he was black, and you called him an "Uncle Tom" because you had NO other arguments, and he was CORRECT.

    AGAIN, Liberals ARE HYPOCRITES.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 5:05 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    fatto, who is UPSET because I (SO UNASHAMEDLY) admitted t "using the N word in my life" says:
    ..."honky (my preferred), cracker, pecker wood, wigger, gringo and republican. did I miss any? They don't even get close to the intent that's implied along with the N and C word"
    Remember, people, I am the racist, and fatto, he's clean as wind driven snow. Not only that, but HE KNOWS how insulted or not insulted when I am verbally assaulted by words used absolutely as a result of my RACE against me.
    He explains, clearly, that "honky" is really a friendly, meaningless phrase, and HIS personal "Favorite".
    That's funny, because this is what Wikipedia says about "honky":

    "Honky was adopted as a pejorative in 1967 by black militants within Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) seeking a rebuttal for the term ni--er. National Chairman of the SNCC, H. Rap Brown, on June 24, 1967, told an audience of blacks in Cambridge, "You should burn that school down and then go take over the honky's school." Brown went on to say: "If America don't come round, we got to burn it down. You better get some guns, brotha. The only thing the honky respects is a gun. You give me a gun and tell me to shoot my enemy, I might shoot Ladybird."

    Yep, honky doesn't mean a thing. Just keep listening to the communists, they'll teach us all a bunch.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 4:59 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Carol sez:
    "Apparently you have never been in an airplane. especially local hops. They are small, enclosed , confined spaces"
    Yeah yeah, I am a pilot, and own an airplane, flew it today. Thanks for letting me know how it is inside one, what else ya know?

    "People in the back know when someone in the front sneezes"
    Oh PLEASE.
    I gurantee you that if someone in the seat two rows in front of you was holding a gun to the person next to you, you'd never know it.

    "There was an air marshall who witnessed it, plus the rest of the pax"
    I see.
    The Air Marshal was sitting in the row when the drunk guy right in front of him, on "final descent" started slapping the kid & using the "N" word on him...all the rest of the passengers disregarded the "Seat Belt Fastened" sign, and got out of their seats, climbing on top of each other so they could see the show, (racist) white guy slapping a black child with an Air Marshal watching.
    Yeah, sounds right. That's what happens on most flights.
    HOW STUPID.

    "And maybe the white people you know use the N word but most of the rest do not"
    Look Ladies, I didn't say "I use the N word all the time, it's part of what I teach my kids". I said I HAVE used it before, and I also said the TRUTH, that most people HAVE used it. Taking this "I'm so innicent & good" ideal is just ignorant, it's like saying "I have never sinned, I'm a Christian". You ALSO won't FIND a Black person who hasn't used the honky, cracker etc verbage, either, but it's NOT that big of a deal, in reality it is a WORD.

    "So, you are saying that if someone came up to you and slapped you, you would just shrug your shoulder and say live and let live, then walk away"
    I never said anything of the sort.
    What I said was the facts, that this guy made a mistake, he WILL pay for it, probably for the rest of his life. He is not "disgusting" or anything like that; to me. This is about a disturbed perosn on alcohol making a mistake, it's NOT about a klan leader who hung black people from trees, like YOU would like it to be.

    "You are not that sort of person"
    You don't know one thing about me.

    "I have a feeling that if that happened you would pull out your CCW and start blasting away"
    Sure, someone slaps me & I shoot them. Use your brain some more, it's entertaining.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 4:47 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    OH this is gonna be fun.....riled you hippes pretty good, huh? AWESOME.

    I'll respond to individual stupidities here, we'll start with fattopro:
    "(1) There is no proof of ANY racial wrongdoing
    It was only a coincidence he used the N word while hitting a dark skinned kid"?
    Can you read the word PROOF; or doesn't that work for you? Or; is it as I suspect; someone is ACCUSED of something, and because you are a communist, they ARE automatically GUILTY, especially because they are a WHITE MAN frmo North Idaho?

    "(3) He is human, they make mistakes
    Oh that's right, all the pedophiles and rapists out there are just humans making mistakes. Their actions are in no way related to some deep underlying flaw"
    I see.
    Getting drunk and doing something stupid is the SAME THING as molesting a child or RAPING a woman.
    Sure.
    Now that's brain dead.

    "(5) The kid has probably already forgotten it happened
    Oh that's right, crimes against children are only a big deal if they can remember it"
    I didn't say it wasn't a "big deal", I said the kid has probably already forgotten it. MOST children (EVIDENTLY NOT YOU) have bad experiences in their childhood, the vast majority of them get forgotten. DUH.

    "I have use the N word before, most ANY white person has, and black peole use "cracker" all the time.
    SO WHAT?"
    That may be the most ignorant thing you've ever posted (that's saying something)"
    Is that so? So; you've never used that word, in your life, so anyone else that has is what; a "racist, bigot, POS whatever"?
    But YOU have NO issue in using racial epithets on me, and I laugh at them.
    That's what makes YOU a HYPOCRITE.

    "You don't know any black people Joe, and I'm guessing you don't know many white people that don't come from the same tiny defective gene pool"
    Ah, fatto's bigotry comes flying through. He PERCIEVES that I MIGHT be a "bigot" so that gives him license to call me bigoted names.
    Now, FYI, fatto, I have worked FOR Black people, had them work FOR me, had them as friends, stood up in 7 different weddings for people that are black, and had one stand in MY wedding.
    Your commentary is just uninformed, and emotional. Try to get that under control....

    "Live & let live, bad finds it's own, people who get drunk do dumb things."
    "And adults who assault children are coward"
    Do you think someone who spanks their kids are assaulting them?

    "Alcohol does not make you a violent racist, it allows underlying character flaws to reveal themselves"
    I see.
    So when someone is under the influence, and they make a pass at a woman that they may not have had the nerve to do sober, that's "revealing a character flaw", is that right Dr Ruth?

    "Sin? Most of us will never hit a child, quit minimizing this guys actions"
    And quit convicting him before YOU know what all happened.


     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 4:34 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    I agree with hiway90, Deniles, you need to change your name to "utter denial".

     
  • Jill Heine posted at 4:22 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Jill Heine Posts: 408

    OH, he was just distraught. His DUI will be dismissed for lack of clinical evidence.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 4:20 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Fair is for corn dogs and funnel cakes.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 4:03 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Right on cougar.

     
  • Mahiun posted at 2:30 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4820

    (1) There is no proof of ANY racial wrongdoing
    This is true. There are charges, and there are eyewitnesses (and "ear"witnesses), but there is not yet any "proof".

    (2) He has NOT been convicted in any court
    This is true. He has been charged, but not convicted.

    (3) He is human, they make mistakes
    But they don't usually repeat those mistakes, and this human appears to have done just that. He has a history of assault and public intoxication....

    (4) As vox says, the guy's life is ruined
    If that's the case (and it probably is), he brought it on himself. If he had just held his tongue, and his hand, for another 10 minutes, we wouldn't be reading about it or discussing it right now...

    (5) The kid has probably already forgotten it happened
    On a conscious level, perhaps. But this is the sort of thing that actually can cause subconscious personality changes and anti-social behaviour, and the mother indicates that the child, who was formerly gregarious and outgoing, has become very panicky around strangers.

    (6) As vox says, move on. I agree.
    If you mean "move on, and simply wait for the verdict", I agree. If you mean "just ignore this entire incident and pretend it never happened", I absolutely disagree. That would simply sweep under the carpet the larger question of why this man, with a history of violence and racism, would feel at home and choose to settle in Hayden, Idaho. Is it just coincidence that he settled in a place that has for so long been notorious for harbouring racists and racism? Perhaps, but it's still a question worth asking: is there something about this area that would cause someone like that to want to call it home?

    I have use the N word before....
    Imagine my surprise....

    ...most ANY white person has...
    This one hasn't.

    SO WHAT? Yes, it's derogatory, no, it's not a good thing to do, and it's offensive. It is also A WORD.
    Nothing more.

    In the same way that "Moronic Michigan Redneck, with a hat size larger than his IQ" would be just words, nothing more?

    Now, that being said, very few people go around doing this, and the idea that we have to, as a society, be the Nazi word police is just ignorant. Live & let live, bad finds it's own, people who get drunk do dumb things. Most ALL of them do, and none of us are without sin.
    Actions have consequences, Joey. Actions have consequences....

     
  • cougar posted at 2:25 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    cougar Posts: 230

    ok cd'a press,
    you've milked this story about far enough already.

    How about an update on the deputy fire chief driving around drunk and got a DUI? Real curious how that case is progressing.

     
  • flattopramen posted at 2:25 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    That's not fair! Us white males don't have any ethnic slurs to get upset about...

    ...honky (my preferred), cracker, pecker wood, wigger, gringo and republican. did I miss any? They don't even get close to the intent that's implied along with the N and C word.

    Well my grandfather came from Oklahoma so I guess I could get upset about "okie"? Still a stretch.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 1:51 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    *** Fun with Joe Idaho ***

    "I have use the N word before, most ANY white person has, and black peole use "cracker" all the time.
    SO WHAT? Yes, it's derogatory, no, it's not a good thing to do, and it's offensive. It is also A WORD.
    Nothing more."

    Joe says that The N Word is "Derogatory" and "Offensive" - I agree. Joe then says that is is also a Word, nothing more - Actually, there is more, and Joe said it...

    The N Word is "Derogatory" and "Offensive"

    When will White Folks understand... The "N" word is off limits. Same as how the "C" word is off limits for men when talking about Women. Think the "C" word is just a word, trying using it around your mom, wife or daughters!

     
  • flattopramen posted at 1:39 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    Why? ... because the CdAPress caters to the emotionally and socially stunted populace of N Idaho.

     
  • flattopramen posted at 1:38 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    Only in N Idaho will you find a woman defending a grown man for hitting a child.

    You should organize a parade in Hundley's honor, he's another casualty of Obama's race war.

     
  • The Golden Mean posted at 1:26 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    The Golden Mean Posts: 4213

    Re: "She is directed to return for final descent and the innocent tyke continues his assault on Hundley"

    Other than drool, mucus and tears, please elaborate on assault. Also need clarification if it is now legal to strike children, females or even men who cry.

     
  • hiway90 posted at 12:58 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    hiway90 Posts: 61

    Like De-nials

     
  • hiway90 posted at 12:57 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    hiway90 Posts: 61

    You have some definite social issues don't you? Get back on your meds..

     
  • hiway90 posted at 12:54 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    hiway90 Posts: 61

    Lets just say, if the players races were reversed it wouldn't make the press at all

     
  • hiway90 posted at 12:52 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    hiway90 Posts: 61

    But wait....This is the Liberal Press... they cant let it drop and discuss real issues, Drunks and Deer are on the hotplate...

     
  • hiway90 posted at 12:50 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    hiway90 Posts: 61

    LOLOL

     
  • hiway90 posted at 12:47 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    hiway90 Posts: 61

    It is so refreshing to see how this Liberal Press is keeping this story alive, when its a who cares issue.


    This is just the latest liberal media diversion frenzy, it too will pass, they have attempedt to make it a racial issue, then an elderly issue, then a mental health issue, and finally a firearms issue.
    All todivert attention away from the true issues at hand.....JOBS, BUDGET, IMMIGRATION,CONSTITUTION INFRINGEMENTS,
    DEFICIT,and much more important conversations...

    Where is all the media coverage and hype about the HUGE upcoming Day of Resistance protest of our 2nd Amendment rights being infringed upon,
    It is a NATION WIDE protest this Saurday the 23rd,, Where is all this talk and coverage


    There are SO MANY more important issues to deal with RIGHT NOW, but to divert the attention, they continue to concentrate with DAILY STORIES about some old intoxicated man being harassed, who got tired of a kid crying.

    Which is worse, an alleged drunk slapper, or some tick infested deer being shot...GREAT STORIES
    Love this Liberal rag........lololol

     
  • Jill Heine posted at 12:14 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Jill Heine Posts: 408

    Hundley was visiting a family member hospitalized in Atlanta. He was reportedly distraught.
    Hundley complained that an uncontroled child should be sitting in a separate seat, not in his face.
    Mom takes belligerent tyke to the back of the plane for 90 minutes.
    She is directed to return for final descent and the innocent tyke continues his assault on Hundley.

    I can't wait for the 'facts' to become court FINDINGS!
    btw, where was Mr. Bennett in this ruckus? Too many unanswered questions.
    LIBERALS continue the ASSault on Hundley.

    So folks, another racial debacle from North Idaho. Big 'O' must be getting a lot of traction.
    Mom on way to funeral drags kid along for looks and family pity.
    NOTHING SUBSTANTIATED in a court of law yet.

     
  • BlkxDragon posted at 12:04 pm on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    BlkxDragon Posts: 2

    @ Triumph: If you want to know why racism is talked about more, go take a look at any Teabagger webpage, and tell me what you think. What do "they" think about race. If this was a white kid nobody would be slapping him in the face (of any color, mind you)...
    @superman: I am nonviolent because racists tend to go look for weaker prey (see baby article). I aint me! lol...

     
  • Triumph posted at 11:37 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Triumph Posts: 540

    Would everyone be excited about this story if the guy had slapped a white kid in the face? What he did was wrong (Slapping a baby in the face) and he will pay for it.... It seems like the media loves to get people all pumped up with race. How is it that racism is talked about more now when we have a half black president than prior to his election? It seems obvious to me that the vast majority of our nation is not racist.

     
  • Timeless posted at 10:30 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 476

    I wish the Press would stop saying this jerk is "from" Idaho. He is "from" Virginia, from what I have read about him. Just another low life transplant.

     
  • flattopramen posted at 10:11 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    Hmm you're right. Maybe it's another conspiracy to help push Obama's commie agenda? Where's Alex Jones when you need him?

     
  • DeNiles posted at 9:47 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    JI......... Would you be so kind as to remove the states name from your title? I suggest something like 'Joepodunk' or 'BraindeadJoe'.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 9:43 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    What an odd post. "...... like 'they' usually do." Sounds like person who uses extreme violence routinely.

     
  • flattopramen posted at 9:33 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    Let me summarize Joe's logic:

    (1) There is no proof of ANY racial wrongdoing
    It was only a coincidence he used the N word while hitting a dark skinned kid?

    (2) He has NOT been convicted in any court
    It's been less than two weeks since the event. (Witnesses, simple assault)
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/baby-slapped-plane (Official FBI report)

    (3) He is human, they make mistakes
    Oh that's right, all the pedophiles and rapists out there are just humans making mistakes. Their actions are in no way related to some deep underlying flaw.

    (5) The kid has probably already forgotten it happened
    Oh that's right, crimes against children are only a big deal if they can remember it.

    "I have use the N word before, most ANY white person has, and black peole use "cracker" all the time.
    SO WHAT?"
    That may be the most ignorant thing you've ever posted (that's saying something). You don't know any black people Joe, and I'm guessing you don't know many white people that don't come from the same tiny defective gene pool.

    "Live & let live, bad finds it's own, people who get drunk do dumb things."

    And adults who assault children are cowards. Alcohol does not make you a violent racist, it allows underlying character flaws to reveal themselves.

    Sin? Most of us will never hit a child, quit minimizing this guys actions.

    "...whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone be hanged about his neck and he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Matthew 18:6

    Good riddance....

     
  • BlkxDragon posted at 9:24 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    BlkxDragon Posts: 2

    Good to see that there are some people in Idaho who DO NOT think that this racists actions are acceptable. I can only say that he is lucky that I wasn't sitting next to him because there would have been another headline for you folks. "White man slaps baby and gets head ripped off his body". Of course with a real man like me sitting there, he would have wimped out like "they" usually do!

     
  • carol posted at 8:41 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    carol Posts: 409

    Apparently you have never been in an airplane. especially local hops. They are small, enclosed , confined spaces. People in the back know when someone in the front sneezes. There was an air marshall who witnessed it, plus the rest of the pax. And maybe the white people you know use the N word but most of the rest do not. So, you are saying that if someone came up to you and slapped you, you would just shrug your shoulder and say live and let live, then walk away. You are not that sort of person. I have a feeling that if that happened you would pull out your CCW and start blasting away.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 8:14 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    (1) There is no proof of ANY racial wrongdoing
    (2) He has NOT been convicted in any court
    (3) He is human, they make mistakes
    (4) As vox says, the guy's life is ruined
    (5) The kid has probably already forgotten it happened
    (6) As vox says, move on. I agree.

    I have use the N word before, most ANY white person has, and black peole use "cracker" all the time.
    SO WHAT?
    Yes, it's derogatory, no, it's not a good thing to do, and it's offensive.
    It is also A WORD.
    Nothing more.
    Now, that being said, very few people go around doing this, and the idea that we have to, as a society, be the Nazi word police is just ignorant. Live & let live, bad finds it's own, people who get drunk do dumb things. Most ALL of them do, and none of us are without sin.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 7:34 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    "Lesson"? Sorry, but how to be civil and human is a lesson for 3rd graders not any 60 y/o man responsible for running a major business. That company needs to immediately examine the management ranks in that firm because sadly birds of a feather do stick together. This guy likely hired and retained people whom he determined were compatible with his own racial precepts.

    Whether it is black or white racism or animal cruelty (think Michael Vick) or other perversions there are some really peculiar souls on this planet. The 'lesson' is to be wary of others.

     
  • skunkworks posted at 6:45 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    skunkworks Posts: 252

    A lesson Indeed !!!! And let it be known I am upset because it was an innocent Child he had struck...Kids are our Future..The Better we as "Adults" treat them,The better we as "Seniors" will be treated by them...

     
  • voxpop posted at 5:24 am on Wed, Feb 20, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    Time to move on folks. This guy was drunk, made a huge mistake, is being justly vilified in the press, lost his overpaid job, and will no doubt get sued out of his underwear. He ruined his life, what's left of it, and hopefully will have to sell his house and move into a tenement in Watts. A good lesson for us all.

     
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