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Posted: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:45 pm

Coeur d’Alene City Councilman Steve Adams issued a press release accusing the mayor and city of attorney of threatening him following last night’s council meeting.

The back story involves the wastewater treatment plant. More specifically: How Adams prefers paying for upgrades to the wastewater treatment plant through a vote rather than judicial confirmation.

Adams prefers the city request $33 million in loans to pay for wastewater treatment plant upgrades through a vote, instead of achieving permission for the expenditures through a judge’s order.

The city, Adams included, originally voted to ask the judge for confirmation to take on the debt because of looming fines — about $1 million a month — should the city not meet tighter federal discharge requirements in about six years.

But Adams later changed his stance, citing Idaho’s Constitution that requires cities to take on debt through a vote. He called the possible fines “rhetoric,” and said there is time to put the issue on a ballot.

The last minute switch has caused a couple of arguments during public meetings between Adams and City Attorney Mike Gridley. The last one was last night. Adams said in his press release today that the argument happened after the meeting was over.

Included is the press release from Adams. A full story is coming in tomorrow’s Press, and The Press is awaiting reply from Gridley and Mayor Sandi Bloem.

— While still in the community room after last night's city council meeting, City Attorney Mike Gridley approached me and asked if I was going to provide him with a copy of the ethics complaint I filed against him. I told him the Idaho State Bar would likely send him a copy with a request to respond. He then proceeded to get in my face and told me was a "moron". I asked him If he was threatening me, he said no, but that in 30 years of practicing law he had never had anyone make a complaint against him, and again he told me I was "moron". He was still in my face at this point, just inches away, leaning in on me. I again asked if he was threatening me and he said no, but that I could "(bleep) off you stupid moron." At this point I grabbed my cell phone and called 911 to ask for officer assistance as I perceived this as an assault. Mr. Gridley walked away saying he was going to his office and then home. I walked through the library and into the ante room where the Mayor, Mike Kennedy, Deanna Goodlander, Wendy Gabriel and Jon Ingalls were standing. Mike Kennedy told me I should calm down. I told him about the exchange I had with Mr. Gridley and he responded with surprise and expressed dissatisfaction. I turned to the Mayor and pointed at her exclaiming that she should take disciplinary action against Mr. Gridley. She told me not to point at her, so I apologized for pointing. She then said not only would she not be disciplining Mr. Gridley but, raising her fist at me, she said she had half a mind to "punch my nose off of my face."

For the City Attorney to verbally assault me, twice now, with inflammatory and derogatory comments, is a violation of his attorney code of ethics and, according to the city's personnel rules, is insubordination. I call for his immediate termination. Mayor Bloem’s actions are unprofessional, disrespectful and definitely unbecoming for the Mayor. I demand an apology. — Steve Adams

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  • Downtowner posted at 3:14 pm on Tue, Mar 26, 2013.

    Downtowner Posts: 126


  • librtyhuntr posted at 7:06 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    librtyhuntr Posts: 317

    you are right on guy, as everyone else drifts off on dumbassed tangents they miss the whole point .the over reaching federal government and their over regulating far left zealots who want more government control, what happened to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. their agenda is not to be good stewards of the planet they want to put it ahead of humans. " the spirit of risistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always be kept alive" thomas jefferson

  • guy fawkes posted at 7:20 pm on Sat, Mar 23, 2013.

    guy fawkes Posts: 18

    “Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ” Eric Blair

    Federal requirement? What a joke. Coeur d' Alene needs to stand up to Federal bullies. We don't need this. Come on people, use your brains that the ancients gave you. This is just more bureaucratic nonsense strapping our children's children down with more fiat DEBT. Grow a pair. Steve is stalling and that could work to the citizens favor. This $33 million is just another tactic to attach you to the hip of the DHS and the Federal Government so that you're begging them for a job. Who falls for this? Go for it Steve. We're with you.

  • Mark on the Park posted at 9:06 am on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Mark on the Park Posts: 471

    LOL - private jet. But you had time to hang out here first.

  • Cdajon posted at 7:17 am on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Cdajon Posts: 436

    The mayor is doing a great job. I support her and her agenda. When she's done I'm going to make millions off of the park and sewer plant.

  • Cdajon posted at 7:11 am on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Cdajon Posts: 436

    Wow concerned.. Population is the root of our problems. Jon development.. Or growth problems 50 years ago.. That's because we had lots of space. Bottom line is you're wrong and wayyyyy off base. You sound like a communist with your manufacturing mantra. People like cheap goods.. Are you going to work for $10 a day? Get a clue.. I'm leaving today for Hawaii on my private jet. I know you'd love to come along. Concerned.. Are you an employee or an employer?

  • babydriver posted at 6:12 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    babydriver Posts: 1393

    So maybe you are the Jon referred to in Steve Adam's column?

  • babydriver posted at 5:27 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    babydriver Posts: 1393

    I would expect that from a 'teacher'.

  • babydriver posted at 5:20 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    babydriver Posts: 1393


  • concernedcitizen posted at 2:56 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Wrong AGAIN there Cdajon. Manufacturing should be the base of our economy therefore development would NATURALLY occur. Forcing an area to grow without infrastructure to support in place first (JOBS for those coming) will result in a cancerous death of the community in the long run turning it into slums. You're not as smart as you think.

    So, when my family grows and we have more kids I EXPECT you to pay your portion to drill me another well and install a bigger septic tank. BTW, the kids will need new playground equipment as well so get out your checkbook.

  • Amy Jackson posted at 2:46 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Amy Jackson Posts: 3

    I want 911 operators to pick up EMERGENCY calls on the first ring! Please don't use the system as a way of lodging complaints! This puts all our safety at risk!
    I sure Adams calling 911 added drama and excitement to the situation, but that's about it. Let's get a little more substance back into our politics. As entertaining as this must be for some, whatever side of the issues you are one, I think we can all agree these petty side issues are getting old.

  • Cdajon posted at 2:18 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Cdajon Posts: 436

    It not about hating developers.. It's about envy and jealousy. You objectors wish you were a developer.. The one with all the money. Population growth is the catalyst for everything. It's a simple equation. More people.. More needs. Blame the Catholics and Mormons.

  • Cdajon posted at 9:32 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Cdajon Posts: 436

    You morons want to blame development for everything. Having babies creates a need for expansion. How dense are you anyway.

  • concernedcitizen posted at 8:12 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Wrong again Cdajon. I pay for EVERYTHING for my business to succeed. Developers add to an existing system and should be charged accordingly. They are the ones causing the need for expansion therefore they should pay their part and recoup THEIR expenses from their customer as the REST of us do when selling a product.

    Next time my roof needs repaired I'll be sure to ask you for your portion. ;)

  • JoeIdaho posted at 7:21 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Got it, cdajon.
    An attorney AND the mayor BOTH threaten a person, and you say it's not their "fault".

    Another communists hits the boards....
    The DEBACLE called McEuen is a disaster, the BEST thing that coudl happen woudl be if it were somehow stopped in it's tracks. Coeurd'alene needs 30 MILLION DOLLARS to pay for water treatment, and it won't be there, in any form, BECAUSE morons thought we HAD to have a new park.

    "Pick up a shovel", yeah, and fill back in any holes made by the nitwits bloehm & company.

  • Cdajon posted at 7:08 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Cdajon Posts: 436

    Just because a developer builds a house doesn't make someone buy it. Consumers decide that on their own. Concerned? Do you have a toilet in your home? Yes! Then your part of the problem. All this b.s. About developers getting rich because of a new sewer plant in ridiculous. The population is growing and services must be provided. You all are angry and bitter with yourself and your life.So you come here to complain about anything.. All the while wearing your blinders and enjoying your toilet. Get a clue.. Read.

  • Cdajon posted at 7:02 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Cdajon Posts: 436

    Steve is unstable. His brain has been cooked. As far as all this corruption you and your friends speak of... Nonsense.. The park improvements are just and worthy. Grab a shovel and help out. Adams will probably end up being arrested for assault. I feel a little sorry for him.

  • concernedcitizen posted at 6:24 am on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530


    So spending millions of dollars so that future developers can hook up at our expense is ignorant? It appears to me that Adams is the ONLY intelligent one on the council on this issue.

  • efromm posted at 11:12 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    efromm Posts: 681

    Remember freedom of speech? This is a non issue. It was funny to come back and see how many comments were on it. First time I read it there were

  • Cdajon posted at 10:08 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Cdajon Posts: 436

    Mr. Adams is the problem here. It's clear to see. He is a road block.. Frustration and distraction to others. He's looking for a fight. He's angry and ignorant and it shows. Get him out and get on with business.

  • Rationale posted at 9:39 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1975

    What does it matter when the mayor and the attorney are as honest as Jodi Arias?

    The fact that people support the lies concerning McEuen is disgusting. Liars of a feather flock together!

  • IAMWOMAN posted at 8:01 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    IAMWOMAN Posts: 56

    Actually, Timeless, I withdraw the challenge because I am not interested in putting you on the defensive, and honestly, if everyone had nice polite commentary on these pages, where would be the fun without all the snarky comments?

  • IAMWOMAN posted at 7:55 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    IAMWOMAN Posts: 56

    Timeless, thank you for all of your condescending posts. They exemplify the practices of those you rush to defend. I challenge you to post further commentary without the need to insult or demean the person you are commenting to or about, communication of the level of we would like of our city administrators.

  • JoeIdaho posted at 7:32 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    Liberals/Statists are with Bloehm & Company, for MORE government.
    The REST of us are ashamed of the liberals (YES these ARE liberals) in office.
    Adams was 100% correct, and so are the posters who say the mayor et al should be removed today.

  • bionic man posted at 7:23 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347 need to crawl back in the " HOLE " you came from. Wouldn't be suprised if you were one of the offspring from the Fab 4. Your comments are absolutely without merit and never ending.

    I'd like to see the CDA Press make a requirement for any poster, list their name, as entered as a poster.

    And yes, I go by my name for reason..another month, I'll post my name simply because I have nothing to loose or gain by my comments.

  • Timeless posted at 7:15 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    Duh IAMWOMAN: I know that it took place after the meeting. I stated that.

    If you have not watched the entire meeting that clearly shows Adams' inability to comprehend what Gridley was saying to him, then you should not be commenting. Watch the meeting ,they are all recorded.
    Then, see if you still want to defend Adams.

  • IAMWOMAN posted at 7:01 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    IAMWOMAN Posts: 56

    mr adams cited behavior outside of the meeting in his complaint. I expect the mayor doesn't generally shake her fist while on camera, ditto the lawyer doesn't call people names when the camera is rolling, so what you watched is not what mr. adams is complaining about, rather their behavior after the meeting, is how I read this, which is not on camera, timeless.

  • Timeless posted at 6:42 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    go to Huckleberries blog, See Goodlander' s report of what she witnessed. I was not there.

  • local res posted at 6:39 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    local res Posts: 1165

    sounds like the Mayor and Gridley are guilty of bullying.

  • Timeless posted at 6:37 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    IAMWOMAN: I was not present for the confrontation after the meeting....but I DID watch the meeting, did you? Watch it and see for yourself.

    Gridley was very professional, which I would find very difficult when dealing with Adams behavior.
    It's like the guy is incapable of processing facts. It's really painful to watch.

  • IAMWOMAN posted at 5:57 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    IAMWOMAN Posts: 56

    I will be very mindful of who I vote to replace bloem, kennedy, goodlander, and mcevers. more of the same way of doing business is not how I will be voting. I want more representatives like Edinger, Gookin, and Adams.

    If everyone with our city would act with class and professionalism, we wouldn't read about city council members calling each other names, or city attorneys belittling council members/citizens, or mayors shaking their fists literally and figuratively at the voters.

    I notice that the posters coming to the defense of the lawyer and mayor weren't even present to witness the action for themselves. Classic - he said,he said...typical.

  • concernedcitizen posted at 5:50 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530


    I believe that is Bully SIUYA Gridley.

  • boohoo2U posted at 5:32 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    How much was Gridley involved in the Meyer - Blackrock debacle circa 2002?

  • boohoo2U posted at 5:30 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    provocation at the hands of your government.
    I would be in fear, followed by an uppercut through the neck.
    Your 911 call was prioritized behind a licking dog and a hair nail.

    November is coming sooner than they realize.

  • CaiusCosades posted at 5:13 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    CaiusCosades Posts: 380

    The immature pathetic CDA Mess feeding all you bottom feeders the latest issue of your dear soap opera.

    This story is pathetic, our community leaders are pathetic, but not as pathetic as you all for gobbling up this soap opera and getting all worked up of this drama.

  • LTRLTR posted at 4:53 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Remember the bullies when they wrongfully fired a police officer?

    "City on hook for $3.7M Federal court rules officer was wrongfully terminated"

    And City Attorney Bully Gridley is fighting the Federal Court order.

    How much longer do we keep Bully Gridley on the taxpayer payroll?

  • LTRLTR posted at 4:47 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171


    After all the lies coming from your mayor and cohorts, do you really expect the truth to come from their lips?

    Remember they promised to not spend more than $14.2 Million on McEuen? What happened to that promise?

    They are not going to change until the community removes them from office.

  • Rogue Cop posted at 4:41 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2353

    Maybe that's a good reason to investigate it.

  • Timeless posted at 4:29 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    There are several witnesses to Adams' being the aggressor After last night's meeting.
    He shook his fist in the Mayors face!
    Only a bully does that to a woman!!

    Shame on Adams!! Get that kook off the Council!

  • teacher2 posted at 4:24 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    teacher2 Posts: 17

    I've been watching these City Council Meetings on television, and I have to say that Mr. Adams is constantly trying to pick a fight, he's constantly threatening to sue, file charges with the attorney general's office, etc... I must say it's been an entertaining 2 months. However, I've also noticed that when the city attorney and other council members try to be logical, Mr. Adams appears to be completely confused. I think this is creating a frustrating environment as a whole and Mr. Adams is way out of line on this one. However, he only seems to double down on his threats and doesn't handle situations in a professional manner. The city is in a lot of trouble if Mr. Adams continues on this very ugly path he has chosen to take.

  • Timeless posted at 4:15 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Timeless Posts: 479

    I just watched the recorded Council oh man, that Steve Adams guy gets goofier with each meeting. He sounds like he is about to cry every time he opens his mouth. The guy doesn't seem capable of a logical thought or opinion.

    You will have Steve Adams and ONLY Steve Adams to thank when your water/sewer bill is the predicted $70.00/month.

  • Rogue Cop posted at 4:12 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2353

    People like Bloem, Gridley, and Co eventually all fall. When they do, they fall hard.

  • Humanist posted at 4:03 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3107

    Sounds like we're only hearing one side of the story. Adams'.

  • LTRLTR posted at 4:02 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Councilman Adams made a promise to those who elected him into office and he is standing by his promise. He is the type of council person I want in office. Someone I can trust and believe in. Someone who considers and makes decisions that is in the best interests of the community. He is not seeking to enrich his personal investments.

    The community said they had enough of the lies when they voted in new councilmen. I encourage the new councilmen to stand firm and the community will support them by removing the bullies from office this fall.

  • LTRLTR posted at 3:53 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    One more comment...

    .the same Mayor and her cohorts treated the school board in the same distasteful manner.

    the same Mayor and her cohorts spread lies regarding the recall effort and now the truth is being revealed.

    the same Mayor and her cohorts threatened local businesses who allowed recall people on their property.

    the same Mayor and her cohorts continue to enrich their personal investments with each decision they make

    the same Mayor and cohorts recommend spending $20 million to remodel a park while robbing the account to fix streets that need repair.

    the same Mayor and cohorts gave away city buildings to private businesses without asking the community and then raise rates and taxes to pay for the loss.

    the same Mayor and cohorts give curb cuts to Mike Kennedy's employer while denying a neighboring business just feet away and it's called favoritism.

  • LTRLTR posted at 3:36 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    City of Coeur d'Alene Mayor Bloem and City Attorney Mike Gridley are completely out of line with their bullying tactics. They are becoming extremely violent.

    Citizens: If any other city employee displayed behaviors as Mayor Bloem and Mike Gridley has, they would be fired and tossed out the door. This is bullying and a perfect example of their strong-armed tactics. Really folks, are we going to turn our backs and allow this to continue?

    Remember when Councilman Kennedy went after another person running for office beating his fists on the business door. I watched the council video of last nights meeting and Councilman Kennedy was berating Councilman Gookin once again. How embarrassing to have a councilman behave this way over and over again. I continue to be shocked with such inappropriate behavior.

    The City has been walking a very fine line of legal/illegal activities. On the surface everything looks good but behind closed doors they do not serve the community as they swore they would do so.

  • concernedcitizen posted at 3:34 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Since when is looking out for ones constituents a sworn to do acting like a tool? GEEEZ

  • Humanist posted at 3:12 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3107

    While I think that Adams is acting like a complete tool when it comes to the issue at hand, I agree with most posters below that Gridley et. al. are acting unprofessional in response and should be disciplined appropriately.

  • Wiseguy posted at 2:56 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Wiseguy Posts: 77

    Bullies usually respond the way Attorney Gridley and Mayoress Bloem did. Intimidation, threats and name calling. Sound like the city needs a bullying program more than the school district.

  • HonestGeorge posted at 2:50 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    HonestGeorge Posts: 4

    I'm with Mike on this one. Sometimes only manly answers are appropiate as opposed to being mealy-mouthed and politically correct.

  • The Simple Truth posted at 2:49 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    The Simple Truth Posts: 563

    He gets a medal!

  • CClavin posted at 2:49 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    CClavin Posts: 221

    I forgot one point. A few months ago Bruce McNeil a citizen was asking a question about how & why the finance department did not catch the $350,000 fraud. At that point Wendy Gabriel stood up and said, "Madam mayor I request any belittling of CIty Staff be done in private and not public" To which Mayor Bloem said, "I agree". This goes to show you what kind of a person Wendy Gabriel is she did not stand up and stop this and it goes to show you what kind of person Mayor Bloem is because she never stopped Gridley either. Zero integrity and both should be ashamed.

  • concernedcitizen posted at 2:46 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Wasn't there a committee formed to prevent bullying in the area schools? Then we wonder where the area children learn it from. Looks like we need one formed for the (cough cough) leaders of our community as well. Sad sad day when those in power cannot do the right thing.

  • Adamsfly posted at 2:44 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Adamsfly Posts: 46

    The Nut-job is Adams.

  • CClavin posted at 2:42 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    CClavin Posts: 221

    I am not a huge Adams fan to begin with but how does Gridley still have a job? After his rants at council meetings and his botched legal skills that cost the city tax payers over 4 million in a police lawsuit. Come on get rid Gridley.

  • apathoid posted at 2:25 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    apathoid Posts: 211

    Pass the popcorn! This is getting good.

    I can't wait 'til the AP picks up these nutjobs and we get to see Her Sandiness and the Court Jester Kennedy on some reality show: City Council Gone Wild!

    What a bunch of morons...

  • Rogue Cop posted at 2:20 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2353

    Put Gridley on Administrative Leave for insubordination. Conduct an investigation to determine if his actions warrant termination.

  • Rogue Cop posted at 2:14 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2353

    Imagine how Bloem and Co. would be acting if they lost on the McEuen issue.

    All this talk and drum beating lately about bullying...let's see if one of our kids told another kid in school that he was going to punch his nose off his face, what would be the District's response? So what will be the City's response to one of it's elected officials "bullying" another elected official.

    It'll get worse before it gets better.

  • skunkworks posted at 2:05 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    skunkworks Posts: 252

    This is Exactly the Type of "Behavior" I would Expect out of a Certain Few that "Know" the End is Near...

  • DeNiles posted at 2:00 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Hmmmmm.... If the Mayor and Gridley have gun permits they should be immediately revoked and their weapons confiscated. Sounds like they're verging on going postal. I mean if they have this little control over their public displays of violence and anger imagine what they might do in private, when they think no one else can see their actions. I think federal gun laws demand that these sorts of miscreants get disarmed, for the safety of the public in general.

    And why are they this mad? Cuz they did not get their way and they are forced to obey the law?

  • oatster posted at 1:39 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    oatster Posts: 32

    really!!and these are the folks making decisions on the publics behalf... what a bunch of babies.! i say vote them all out..
    including steve adam's...

  • Mary Souza posted at 1:30 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Mary Souza Posts: 798

    Out of control! The City Attorney and the Mayor are completely out of control. It doesn't matter whether they agree or disagree with Mr. Adams, there is NO place for that kind of behavior in a professional organization. It is even worse that the Mayor is an elected official behaving that way toward another elected.

  • Spikey posted at 1:26 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Spikey Posts: 364

    Gridley is arrogant and reeks of hubris. Also acts like a petulant child. Sandi Bloem is going to punch his nose off his face? Just which grammar school play yard are we living in? Another appalling incident from your elected officials. This is just the kind of small town late night joke that ends up on Leno adding to the much deserved Idaho reputation.

  • Screen Name posted at 1:07 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    Screen Name Posts: 853

    Children, one and all.

  • NoName posted at 1:06 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.

    NoName Posts: 253

    As an ex customer of Steve's I feel I got the opportunity to get to know him over the years. I find Mr. Adams to be a stand up guy and I support Steve 100%.

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