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Steve Adams' parking ticket appeal gets denied, posted online

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Posted: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:00 am


It's been quite a week in what's been quite a month for Councilman Steve Adams, who drew his fair share of attention recently for advocating the city go to an election to decide the fate of the wastewater treatment plant and the multi-million dollar upgrades it requires.

The pursuit of an election made the second-year councilman unpopular with the rest of the council, which preferred judicial confirmation to secure the funds.

Tense meetings on the topic lasted all March, which included arguing, finger pointing, a 911 call, alleged threats, shaking fists and swear words.

Add a parking ticket.

Not just left on a windshield, but posted online, to boot.

"I didn't expect that one," Adams said Thursday of the parking ticket he received March 28 while attending a City Council workshop involving the sewer issue at the public library - a ticket he appealed, lost, and was posted online on a blog that has been critical of Adams every step of the wastewater way. "I was surprised."

Adams' parking ticket appeal was posted on The Spokesman Review's Huckleberries online.

On the appeal, Adams explained he was attending a city meeting that lasted a half-hour longer than the library's two-hour parking limit, but he should be excused as an elected official. The online post sarcastically asked readers if they should take a collection to help Adams pay the $15 fine.

"I'll pay it," Adams said Thursday. "Oh well."

It's not the first time under-the-radar correspondence from the second-year councilman has made it online, including an email Adams sent to the city attorney. Adams has disagreed with the majority of the council on more than the wastewater issue. He said he doesn't pay attention to the blog, but however the information gets out there, it's probably meant to make him look bad.

"What else would be the motivation?" he said.

But Adams appealed the ticket because as a parking commission liaison, he thought tickets would be forgiven if city meetings, which happen frequently at the library, ran longer than the two-hour limit.

The two-hour limit at the library at Front Street and Mullan Avenue was enacted last year.

But the rule actually says the parking commission "may exempt for special events," said Randy Teall, commission member. That's more along the lines of one-time meetings that draw a hundred people or so, not relatively "run of the mill" meetings like a council workshop, he said.

While the library parking lot has a two-hour limit, the adjacent parking lot south of City Hall doesn't. Adams' appeal was denied, as were the other two appeals submitted last week from the same meeting.

"What I want to emphasize is there was nothing political about this," said Teall, adding he recognized the strange timing of the "simple" incident like a parking ticket making it online because Adams had made so many headlines recently. "We had to treat it just as we would anybody else, regardless that he was a councilman."

Teall said he wasn't sure how the info got online.

A records request was made for the appeal, the first records request for a parking appeal Teall has seen in his one year on the commission. City liaison Judy House and newly elected commission member Steve Widmyer were the other two people who would have seen the appeal come in, Teall said. Both House, who said she has never seen a public records request for an appeal either, and Widmyer, appointed March 5, said they didn't alert anyone to it.

But it was posted, which Teall said he found "disturbing."

"It makes everybody look bad," he said. "Nobody is winning on this."

Had the commission forgiven the ticket, it would open them up to criticism of playing favorites for officials, he said, just as some people might suspect Adams got the ticket in the first place - or that the appeal was leaked - because of his contrarian stance.

On Thursday, Adams voted with the rest of council during another workshop at City Hall to officially forgo the election and pay for the $33.5 million plant upgrades through judicial confirmation. The council also accepted Adams' written stipulation that he waives all claims to an appeal, a threat that had hung over the council as it wavered between judicial confirmation and an election. It all but marked the end of the wastewater ordeal.

Adams laughed off the ticket Thursday, saying he didn't see it as insult atop an otherwise tense month. He said his comments about officials being exempt was a joke, but that he thought meetings that ran long would be forgiven.

"Otherwise I wouldn't have appealed," he said. "Then it comes back denied, and I'm like, 'where's the love?'"

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  • Spikey posted at 9:41 am on Mon, Apr 8, 2013.

    Spikey Posts: 387

    Well Thaddeus, I neither know who you are or care what you think. But I would note that somebody seems to have put itching powder in your "gitalong".

  • Thaddeus posted at 6:20 am on Mon, Apr 8, 2013.

    Thaddeus Posts: 232

    Well spikey, if you listen to the concernedidiot and honestly believe that I'm this Thom George Character, you're a bigger fool than I thought. You see, CI is infatuated with Thom George and appears to be stalking him. Quite creepy really.

  • Spikey posted at 4:55 pm on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

    Spikey Posts: 387

    good grief! You mean Thommy George is back posting again. That man has too much time on his hands. He hasn't had a job in years, his wife must still be supporting him. I guess it beats staying home with him.

  • concernedcitizen posted at 8:00 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530


    Pay no attention to thommy boy who doesn't even live here. The Corrupt d'Alene powers that be are loosing their grip on this town. They know it and are running scared.

  • Randy Myers posted at 4:58 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

    Randy Myers Posts: 1635

    DeNiles, That is a despicable, underhanded, and cowardly (since you are anonymous) post. I reported it but see that it still is here. It is a black eye for the Press blog.

  • boohoo2U posted at 10:28 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    2004 regs also allow owners of condos to purchase an inexpensive monthly parking pass.
    Subterranian overflow parking and Front St. closed to traffic. NICE for them!

  • Rogue Cop posted at 7:38 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2371

    Waddya wanna bet that Bloem, Kennedy, and whomever else have business interests downtown will receive parking passes when McEuen is completed?

  • boohoo2U posted at 5:54 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    unless they are deemed to deserve the proverbial shaft for offending the POWERS!
    Time is past to flush the powers, now we must Pay with their decaying stench.

  • boohoo2U posted at 5:52 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    nice since we essentially own the land. Time to shut LCDC down and banish Eden!

  • Justin Cottrell posted at 5:01 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Justin Cottrell Posts: 157

    BooHoo, close but no surprise. He's an elder at a church in Hayden.

  • Justin Cottrell posted at 4:59 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Justin Cottrell Posts: 157

    Ya'know Randy, I've never taken issue with you, so I don't know why you feel the need to insult me time and time again. Sure we disagree on politics, and likely a variety of things, but I'm sure there are things we both agree on. I remember a time in the not to distant past you and I were two of only a few on HoBO that opposed McEuen Park. And to that I'll gladly lift my glass.

  • LTRLTR posted at 4:31 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    City Council discussions, City Council website informational postings, and LCDC discussions tell us that those attending meetings at the Library that last longer than 3-hours would be excused from a ticket. See their wording below..........

    "people attending evening meetings and programs will not be ticketed."

    "Troy Tymesen noted that if there is an event being held in the Library for more than 3 hours the Library will issue a pass to the event participants"

    "A parking pass system of some kind will most likely be established to deal with the
    longer than two hour meeting issue."

    My question is when did the Mayor and City Council change their intent to not help those getting tickets who are attending public meetings at the library? Is the Library Parking Lot a ticket trap?

  • LTRLTR posted at 4:05 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    From the Lake City Development Corp (LCDC) who owns the Library parking lot, June 5, 2012 minutes:

    Commissioner Elder shared that the proposed two hour parking limit at the library is not designed to impact patrons of the library, or folks who are attending meetings at the library that last longer than two hours. A parking pass system of some kind will most likely be established to deal with the
    longer than two hour meeting issue.

  • hiswife posted at 2:33 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    hiswife Posts: 7

    fawning and submissive? No. Impossibly beautiful? Ok

  • Flash Gordon posted at 1:34 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Flash Gordon Posts: 1651

    I blame Bloem, Kennedy, Goodlander, and McEvers for Steve Adams. And what's worse is that our city council will be filled with more like him after upcoming elections.....

    The chickens have come home to roost, the fish are in the pan, chicken little was right, that dog don't hunt, that squirrel got run over on the road, you can lead the sheep to slaughter but you can't force Steve Adams to find some common sense.....

  • babydriver posted at 12:44 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    babydriver Posts: 1393

    Imagine a world where the media gave the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    Won't be happening here.

  • babydriver posted at 12:36 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    babydriver Posts: 1393

    Riight Randy, We already have the blind leading the blind, right into the ditch.

  • Thaddeus posted at 12:34 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Thaddeus Posts: 232

    Well boobtoot, I say what I want, When I want. You don't like it, too bad, or you can kiss my third point of contact.

  • boohoo2U posted at 12:09 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    Je'deus: who said you could pull your hear out and speak?

  • boohoo2U posted at 12:06 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    boohoo2U Posts: 406

    we all know how it is with mangy mutts and pigs, they love to roll in __IT!
    Herr Dufus probably attends RLM's annex in the valley. So much for devout.

  • Thaddeus posted at 10:55 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Thaddeus Posts: 232

    Awwwwww, The proverbial woman coming to the defense of her man.....

    That's kind of sweet,,,,,,,,,,,,, In a "Stepford Wives" kind of way.

  • Randy Myers posted at 10:20 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Randy Myers Posts: 1635

    This is why you aren't a leader.

  • hiswife posted at 10:14 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    hiswife Posts: 7

    Steve doesn't think he's above the law. He didn't go barging into anyone's office demanding the ticket be done away with. It was a simple request with some humor attached. There were 2 other requests from the same meeting and neither of them are being accused of thinking they are above the law...are they Tom? All you have to do is see who is involved to figure out where the "leaks" came from. This is the kind of stuff you deal with when you disagree with the current city council and the people who depend on them for their huge salaries.

  • Justin Cottrell posted at 9:52 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Justin Cottrell Posts: 157

    Humanist, not bitter in the slightest. I realize I pushed the limits for Dave's fragile lil kingdom, and took great delight every time he kicked me to the curb. I took pride in rattling that old crotchety socialist's cage.

    If I had more time I'd crash into his blog once in a while to have a drink and get into a bit of trouble. Yeehaw!

  • Justin Cottrell posted at 9:49 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Justin Cottrell Posts: 157

    Adamsfly- Prove me wrong without insulting me little man. Despite what charity Steve has given to the community and how his food tastes at the Grill, he's been tight with DFO for years. He's a part of the 'IN' crowd, along with the other cast of Queen Sandi's lil community.

    Besides, it's pretty common knowledge for those that pay attention Steve used to go by the moniker EageEye on Dingleberries.

  • Humanist posted at 9:36 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3208

    Quote JC: "Maybe Dave will do everyone a favor and retire soon. "

    Still a little bitter about being banned from HBO, are you?

  • LTRLTR posted at 9:34 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    'Steve Widmeyer is one of DFO's EagleEye'd berry-pickers'

    Can you prove the above comment to not be true Adamsfly?

    Adamsfly: Have your attempted to bring negative attention to community volunteers?

  • Adamsfly posted at 9:01 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Adamsfly Posts: 46

    @justin cottrell....I know Steve and he is above this moronic claim of yours. Where do come off talking smack about an individual whose given more to this city in the past 3 months than you have in your pathetic little life.

  • DeNiles posted at 8:57 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    2 issues, a parking ticket and why HBO is so banal as to publicly expound and harp what is absolutely none of their business.

    The parking ticket? Eh, who cares? It is our cities ugly leadership and in light of their other actions this is just a hangnail on a already bleeding hemorrhoid. It is 100% to be expected. Nothing is below these folks. They do not care and they have no pride.

    And then there is HBO and its moderator DFO. DFO is Bloems lap dog and is stupid and/or desperate enough to wallow in the her feces on command. Then he will obediently and proudly sit up and beg for more. That any newspaper actually employs this person and supports this online venue is beyond deplorable. Then again this is the newspaper who made national news as it torpedoed Spokane's Mayor with a host of lies.

    There is no basement to their ethics. They start at numbingly dumb and proceed below child slavery and worse. And the really comical part is that DFO espouses himself as a devout man. I can only hope that there is a God and a personal judgment day.

  • LTRLTR posted at 8:19 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    From the City of Cda. May 15, 2012 Council Minutes:

    Susan Snedaker had attended a meeting at the Library that lasted over 3 hours and commented that the Council would be eliminating a large number of people from using the Library. She believes that theCouncil is being shortsighted in Mayor Bloem asked for clarification. Troy Tymesen noted that if there is an event being held in the Library for more than 3 hours the Library will issue a pass to the event participants and noted that research has revealed that most meetings do not go longer than 2 hours.

  • mister d posted at 8:15 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    I don't blame him for appealing the ticket, it is a right all of us have. I'm sure it was more principle than money as he was on city business and apparently had not read the parking rules.

  • Justin Cottrell posted at 7:42 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Justin Cottrell Posts: 157

    Steve Widmeyer is one of DFO's EagleEye'd berry-pickers, it's little wonder the ticket made it online. Dave and his minions aren't above lying, or bending the rules to make a story break. Someone seriously needs to bust his chops for getting info before a public information's request is made. Oh sure he get's them made by his lackey's at City Hall, after they've already told him the info, just to cover his backside.

    Maybe Dave will do everyone a favor and retire soon.

  • LTRLTR posted at 7:29 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    From the City of Cda.:

    City of Coeur d'Alene Today

    Thursday, June 21, 2012
    Two-Hour Library Parking to be Enforced
    Beginning Wednesday, June 27, two-hour parking will be enforced in the upper parking lot at the Coeur d’Alene Public Library and Coeur d’Alene City Hall (the lot accessed from Front Avenue and Eighth Street).
    According to Library Director Bette Ammon this is being done to assure consistent parking availability throughout the day for library users and for people with business at City Hall.
    Parking beyond the two-hours limit will result in a $15 citation. Enforcement by Diamond Parking has been arranged so that people attending evening meetings and programs will not be ticketed.
    Patrons and volunteers who need to be in the library or City Hall for longer than two hours are advised to use the lower parking lot during the day and to enter the buildings though the lower entrances.

  • Miketeague posted at 7:15 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Miketeague Posts: 2596

    I have to ask, since it was a council meeting and all of the council members were there did any others get a parking ticket or was Mr. Adams singled out. Maybe now the library parking policies will change.

  • lola123 posted at 6:42 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    lola123 Posts: 349

    Appeal? So Mr Adams thinks he is above the law? Soooooo Funny!!!

  • voxpop posted at 5:36 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    Simple explanation - Oliveria is the devil.

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