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Posted: Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:00 am

COEUR d'ALENE - Gary Brown wouldn't tell The Press anything more than he told a Fox News reporter about the genesis of a video in which North Idaho school-age children say that because of their Christian beliefs, they've endured ridicule and had their rights trampled on in public schools.

The video titled "The Thaw" features kids who participate in Reach America, a Coeur d'Alene-based Christian ministry and education program run by Brown. The video has been rapidly gaining viral ground on the Internet. By Saturday afternoon, it had been viewed just shy of 84,000 times.

Brown told Fox News' Todd Starnes and The Press that the idea for the video grew out of an experience some of the children had last year, when a public school teacher asked them to write an essay titled "I Believe," but wouldn't allow them to write about God.

"It set up a conversation that the kids started having," Brown said.

Brown would not reveal the name of the public school where the essay incident occurred, or the name of the teacher, "for the sake of confidentiality of the kids."

The video shows clips of the students who attend Brown's program posing questions: "Why can't I pray in school?" "Why do I have to check my religion at the door?" "Why do they teach every other theory in science except creation?"

Statements are made by the children also: "In public school, people are rude and disrespectful towards Christians," and "Bullying is common."

The kids say that sex education is "pornography," and infer that the Pledge of Allegiance isn't taking place, or when it is, students aren't participating.

The image of a cross, frozen into a melting block of ice, resting on an American flag is juxtaposed among the clips of the students. The video claims Christianity is being "frozen out" of America, that it is time for a "thaw."

Brown said most of the kids who participate in his program are from Kootenai County. When asked if the children in the video had experienced bullying in area public schools because they are Christians, Brown wouldn't say.

"Bullying is in the eyes of the beholder, I guess," he said.

The Reach America youngsters attend "online academies" or are home-schooled in the mornings, he said. The organization offers free tutoring early in the day, and according to the website, teens complete their online studies or home school assignments sent by their parents, in a structured environment under the guidance of Mindy Brown, Reach America's education director.

In the afternoons, the children participate in a leadership program led by Brown, a pastor who formerly lived in Georgia. He is a graduate of New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, and served as the pastor of NorthStar Church in Coeur d'Alene. Prior to moving to Idaho, Brown worked on Capitol Hill, advising Congress on sexual abstinence education.

Brown is also the director of the Idaho Values Alliance, a social conservative nonprofit formerly led by Bryan Fischer. Brown took over IVA from Fischer in 2010, after Fischer left to work for the American Family Association.

"Learning to lead others is a skill few Christians possess. In this age of cultural upheaval young people not only need to learn a Biblical worldview, they also need to be able to effectively defend a Biblical worldview and persuade others," states the Reach America website, letsreachamerica.org, regarding Brown's leadership program.

Many of Brown's postings on the Reach America blog, accessed through the website, are highly critical of the American public education system stating that it exposes Christian children to "dangerous ideology preached in the classroom day in and day out."

When asked if his organization encourages Christians to remove their children from public schools, Brown said: "We do, from the buildings."

Surveys show, he said, that a high percentage of children leave the church after they graduate from high school.

"We're just saying there's a better way to do it," Brown said.

The advent of online schools has made it possible, Brown said, for parents to remove their children from brick and mortar schools without sacrificing public school education.

The cost of the Reach America program is $2,400 annually or $240 per month for the first youth and $1,800 annually or $180 per month for additional youth in the family. The program runs from September through June, like the public school calendar.

While Brown is encouraging Christian parents to remove their children from traditional public school systems, some of his supporters want to be involved in running brick and mortar public school districts in Kootenai County.

One of Reach America's sponsors is Full Throttle Auto Repair, which is owned by Carol Goodman, a candidate for the Post Falls school board in the May 21 election.

Brent Regan, who was appointed to the Coeur d'Alene School District Board of Trustees in December and is now seeking election to the position, is also a supporter.

Regan lists "Provided seed funding for Reach America" on his resume under "educational and political activities."

Reach America is a leadership skills program, Regan said. He told The Press he gave the organization some money a few years ago "to help bootstrap" a summer camp.

Regan, an inventor, said he's had the kids currently participating in the Reach America program out to visit the workshop on his property, where he gave them a tour and a lecture.

When Regan was asked if he's aware of Christian children's rights being denied in the schools, Regan said he hasn't witnessed it personally.

"Other than that, it's all hearsay, and as a trustee, I have to deal in fact," Regan said.

Some educators in the Coeur d'Alene School District were surprised to hear that there are students who feel they've been harassed or ridiculed in area public schools.

Deanne Clifford, principal of Lake City High School, said she's only had one student through the years approach her about being denied the right to pray in school.

Clifford said the boy told her he'd heard that Clifford said it wasn't allowed. She told him that was untrue.

"We have Wednesday morning prayer around the pole," Clifford said. "You'll get a group of 30 kids standing out there praying. I've prayed with them."

Several years ago, when her school experienced several student suicides, Clifford said praying took place every day at the school, for those who wished to.

"This goes to freedom of speech," Clifford said. "You don't lose all your rights at the schoolhouse doors."

There is an active Christian club, called Revived, on the Lake City campus.

Over at Coeur d'Alene High School, Principal Warren Olson, reports there is also a prayer group that meets regularly near the school's flagpole. And, church youth group representatives from a variety of local churches are on campus regularly, signing in as "approved visitors" and joining the students for lunch in the cafeteria.

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  • Mahiun posted at 12:12 am on Thu, May 16, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    But the single thing that distinguishes a "religion" from any other system or code of ethics is belief in one or more supernatural, transcendent, and (usually) non-corporeal guiding forces, beings, or entities.

    And as for "--ism" being a determinant: athleticism is an "--ism", and so are conservatism, prism, despotism, heroism, racism, colloquialism, and even antidisestablishmentarianism. But none of them are religions....

     
  • Natural Liberal posted at 9:22 pm on Wed, May 15, 2013.

    Natural Liberal Posts: 44

    "atheism and secular humanism as religions (which they are not)"

    Hmmm....

    Atheism and Secular Humanism are "isms". Just like Protestantism, Catholicism, and all of the other "isms" promoted around the world.

    As with any religion, both Atheism and Secular Humanism have dogmas and heretical vocabularies (segregation, racist, diversity, equality, "no such thing as race," hater, intolerance bigotry etc.); which are used to denounce non-believers of their faith based belief system.

     
  • DCIDAHO posted at 8:53 pm on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2283

    "Bring back American exceptionalism!" Based upon the common definition of American exceptionalism, it would be a shame to bring it "back".

     
  • Peter posted at 7:05 pm on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    Peter Posts: 617

    Wow! I didn't realize how many Christian haters there are.

    I did not get that at all. You came to that conclusion and I imagine your judgement towards non-xitans are as equally as harsh as you are assuming that theirs is towards you. And you do know what happens when you assume right? That kind of snap assumption is what precisely induces all your fears because it creates a knee jerk reaction from the very crowd that you think are out to get you. You know that godless, gay, commie loving, wavy gravy, prius/volvo driving libs. You don't need to have god, gods, allah, jesus, buddha, great spirit in the sky, ganish and so on to be a good person. There are more than enough atheists, agnostics, "liberal" xtians, jews, muslims, buddhist and so on who do plenty of good deeds if not more than those who zealously shout until their blue in the face that "they" are all gonna burn in he!! if they don't believe. And don't give me this victimization garbage. As I stated earlier in this thread there is absolutely no comparrison to the "perscution" status of xtians in America as they relate to blacks, native Americans, gays, WWII Japanese Americans, womens rights, and so on. Are there instances of bullying and/or discrimination towards xtians? Yes, but no where near the levels of those who were truly persecuted. That is just a fact. And yes, in instances where there are real persecution/harrassment of xtians they should be met with the swifted of action as they should in all discrimination occurances.

     
  • DCIDAHO posted at 4:52 pm on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2283

    Yes, I know it's a sin. But...I do it with a repentant heart.

     
  • Mahiun posted at 4:40 pm on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    But you are oppressing the self-righteous by systematically removing all the groups for them to look down on, and feel superior to! How dare you! What kind of cruel monster are you, anyway??!

     
  • DCIDAHO posted at 4:12 pm on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2283

    I don't find a need to proclaim my own generosity, however If you must know: I belong to, and give generously through, a large social network helping millions who suffer not just in this nation, but worldwide. I volunteer at a local retirement home doing "fix-it" jobs for elderly. I donate $ to several ecological endeavors, and I regularly chaperone my grandchildren's Friday school field trips. This on a fixed retirement income with a disabled back. I find those who judge based on contributions usually have a need to scorn the recipients of such generosity. Religion doesn't have a monopoly on morality or philanthropy.

     
  • srl posted at 3:59 pm on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    srl Posts: 18

    Heartbreaking that these white, Christian, heterosexual kids don't get to do whatever they want when they want without anyone offering opinion on it. DOESN'T THE WORLD UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING MUST CATER TO THEIR PREFERENCES?

    In all seriousness, check your privilege, kiddos.

     
  • Mahiun posted at 2:56 pm on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    All right, here's one. I don't know that I'm "close to" DCIDAHO, because I don't have any idea who he actually is.

    But this "godless liberal socialist commie f****t" (yes, I've been called that and worse) is about to take in someone who's in danger of losing his own home, because of having lost his job. I'm not in great financial shape myself, and it'd be great to have an actual renter. But I've been in pretty desperate shape myself, from time to time, so the least I can do is to pay it forward --- not because "God said so", not because it'll get me "Frequent Prayer" miles, not because it gets me a "Get Out of Hëll Free" card or Heaven Points. Just because it's the right thing to do.

    And I volunteer my time, my labour, and my talents to a variety of community organizations. But I try to do so on the down-low, without calling attention either to myself or to the organizations. I figure it's more important that I do the volunteer work, not I be seen doing volunteer work.

    By the way, the myth (and it is a myth) that conservatives donate more than liberals has been debunked a couple of different times and different ways. Turns out it's entirely in how you measure it, and levels of giving are actually roughly equivalent. But conservatives tend to give much more to their own churches --- specifically, their won congregations. Liberals are much more likely to donate their time and labour, and are more likely to donate money to secular organizations to which they do not necessarily belong. Find yourself a religious liberal, and you'll have all the bases covered! ;-)

     
  • AnnoTater posted at 11:44 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    AnnoTater Posts: 173

    give us some examples of yourself and other libs close to you that contribute to the community regularly... specifics..?

     
  • DCIDAHO posted at 11:00 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2283

    Non-religious does not equate to "Christian hating". And, kindness is not exclusive to Christians, (except in the minds of the devout.)

     
  • IJLmom posted at 10:38 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    IJLmom Posts: 12

    Wow! I didn't realize how many Christian haters there are. That makes me so sad. Lets see. As a Christian I am supposed to love my neighbor as my self. How dose a community of Christians do this? Look around at the different churches who work together to take care of a community. We feed and clothe the homeless. There is a soup kitchen going on almost everyday of the week plus food pantries. Many churches downtown collaborate and have a family live inside there church for a week while the congregation takes care of them. Each church takes the family for a week to help them get on there feet. It's called family promise. One pastor runs a drug rehab and even has those people stay in his house to get them on there feet. Restoring families.
    So tell me Christian haters (can't list all screen names because there is so many) what are you doing for your community? Are you paying electric bill's and mortgages for families? or do you just do your once a year gift to a child at Christmas? A lot of these kind hearted people do these things every week all year long. As for Krista Hazel? You really want a person on the board who slanders peoples names through the mud? One who told a lie about a board member being arian nation? I wish that that board member would have gone after her for slander. I knew this board members dad who died while driving a school bus in the silver valley. His memorial filled the Kellogg High school. I wonder how many people remember the late George Wild. He was a wonderful man. My husband and him were friends. Krista is a bully. She'll say or doing anything to get on that board. I find her foul.
    Thank you Brent for being part of a solution and not the problem. There are many out there who support you. We just can't always comment because we are to busy being out there actually helping our community.

     
  • Mahiun posted at 10:19 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    It has always been an odd, circular argument --- especially for those who want to simultaneously characterize both atheism and secular humanism as religions (which they are not), but prevent them from taking part in the religious freedom they want for themselves.

    "Freedom of religion", in this country, too often translates to, "You are perfectly free to follow whichever fundamentalist Christian religious denomination you choose --- and it doesn't even have to call itself evangelical and/or fundamentalist, as long as it still is evangelical and/or fundamentalist!"

     
  • DCIDAHO posted at 10:02 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    DCIDAHO Posts: 2283

    One cannot, in a free society, have freedom of religion without having freedom from religion. The ranks of non-religious are rapidly growing. A free society cannot force religion on those who choose otherwise.

     
  • Mahiun posted at 9:18 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    Yeah, we have really had to worry about religious tyranny in our country....
    Yes, we have had to --- and with several very, very good reasons to do so:

    [*] The Salem Witch Trials
    [*] The religious justifications used to keep slavery in place for nearly a century after its abolition was first proposed, as the Declaration of Independence was being drafted
    [*] The religious justifications used to deny women the vote
    [*] The religious justifications used to create the 19th Amendment, one of the most spectacular "social experiment" failures in this or any other nation's history
    [*] The religious justification behind Jim Crow laws and "separate but equal"
    [*] The religion-based (ironically, primarily Southern Baptist) opposition to equal rights for blacks, including the right to an education
    [*] The religion-based (ironically, primarily Southern Baptist) opposition to abolishing anti-miscegenation laws and allowing interracial marriage
    [*] The religion-based (primarily Mormon) illegal campaign-finance efforts to deny marriage equality for both opposite-sex and same-sex couples

    And these are just the highlights (or lowlights, depending on your perspective). There is indeed a very long, very shameful, and very dangerous history of religious fanaticism in America. The threat is by no means imaginary.

    Mahuin, no worries, your liberal progressive, secular ideals have won the hearts and minds of a couple of generations at least.
    MY ideals?! I have no trademark or copyright on ideals of justice, fairness, and equality. But if I have somehow single-handedly managed to capture the hearts and minds of multiple generations, then I apparently don't know my own strength!

    Less God,... more crime, corruption and decadence.
    Actually......no. Statistically, exactly the opposite is true, at least in this country: The Bible Belt very solidly leads all the rest of the country in divorce, rape, unwed mothers, teen pregnancies, sex-related crimes, gun violence..... The less religious states tend to be more societally stable, safer, more prosperous, and better educated, with higher standards of living.

    if you wanna be like all the other mediocre countries in the world that have given in to the humanism of a secular, faithless society that has no drive to excel and will NEVER be the beacon of freedom that we once were.
    You mean some of those "mediocre" countries that have been kicking our *** economically, whilst also being dramatically safer and --- for decades now --- actually even freer than America? Actually, being more like that doesn't sound like such a bad deal....

     
  • Mahiun posted at 8:54 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    Not a "character flaw" at all, Brent. In fact, several of us have gone out of our way to commend you for your donations of both your finances and your labour, time, and energy. "Character flaw" was never the issue; "potential conflict of interest" was the issue. And you have satisfied me, and I believe several others as well, that there is none. Thank you for doing so.

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 8:46 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    One of the most important, if not the most important freedoms, that we value and have always represented to the rest of the world is the freedom of religion, which Reach America seems to be very much against.

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 8:39 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    Still waiting...

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 6:31 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 1847

    NOT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. And, if you really watch these little children...they look brainwashed and scared if they don't do what they are told by these extremists Christians...well, don't want to know what the punishment would be. KEEP IT OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS. OPEN YOUR OWN DAM PRIVATE SCHOOL...Stop whining!!!!

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 6:29 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 1847

    NOT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. You want the power of prayer in SCHOOL for your little children...THEN SEND THEM TO PRIVATE SCHOOL!!! nuff said

     
  • AnnoTater posted at 12:19 am on Tue, May 14, 2013.

    AnnoTater Posts: 173

    Then Sunshine Girl you should have a discussion with Balance for North Idaho that was responsible for the initial narrative that the election of school board trustees should not be about ideology. Who's rules are the candidates to follow? Whatever suits Brent's opposition at any given moment (opportunity)?

     
  • AnnoTater posted at 11:29 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    AnnoTater Posts: 173

    Yeah, we have really had to worry about religious tyranny in our country...... ridiculous, there has been a continual eroding of conservative Christian values for decades. Mahuin, no worries, your liberal progressive, secular ideals have won the hearts and minds of a couple of generations at least. We live with the results of that awesome ideology today. Less God,... more crime, corruption and decadence. Less personal responsibility, less self reliance...more government interference and eroding of personal liberties. Yeah, it's working alright, if you wanna be like all the other mediocre countries in the world that have given in to the humanism of a secular, faithless society that has no drive to excel and will NEVER be the beacon of freedom that we once were.

     
  • AnnoTater posted at 11:21 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    AnnoTater Posts: 173

    That is ridiculous. It's not the Klan we have to fear but rather the socialist progressives that revile self reliance, independence in exchange for bigger government, nanny states.

     
  • AnnoTater posted at 11:19 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    AnnoTater Posts: 173

    well said!

     
  • AnnoTater posted at 11:18 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    AnnoTater Posts: 173

    Bring back American exceptionalism!

     
  • AnnoTater posted at 11:17 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    AnnoTater Posts: 173

    Humanist; what do you have to say about the images of Moses and the 10 Commandments prominently featured in the supreme court? The 10 Commandments engraved in the huge oak doors? Or the Office of the Chaplain of the House of Representative? http://chaplain.house.gov/

    It is not unprecedented to have religious influence in our public institutions. Our first public school text book was the Holy Bible. The invocation of faith was not foreign to our founding fathers, it informed their establishment of this Constitutional Republic and resulted in the most successful experiment of governance and prosperity, liberty and freedom of mankind in the history of civilization. Freedom of religion (not freedom FROM religion) was the very foundation upon which this nation was built.

     
  • Mahiun posted at 10:30 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    Publically funded schools must remain neutral in matters of faith and religion.
    It's very gratifying and reassuring to read this, Brent, but wouldn't you say it actually goes a bit farther? That is, public schools should not even be involved with, or within the reach of, faith and religion. Their missions are entirely different, and each must remain above the fray of the other, as it were.

     
  • Mahiun posted at 10:20 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    I once heard a pastor say that everyone is a believer when they are laying on their death bed and request prayer.

    Yeah, I've heard that one, too, but it's not true. There are several well-documented cases of it not being true. And, it's irrelevant. Believe or don't believe, or believe something else altogether --- even at school. But the school cannot lead it, endorse it, or require it without breaking the law. Private professions of faith are not prohibited (so long as they are not disruptive, as with any other act); no one is required to "check her religion at the door".

    If Christian kids are indeed being bullied at school, because of their faith, then yeah: that's a problem, as it would be if black kids or Hindu kids or gay kids or French-speaking kids or any kids were being bullied. But if this is simply a case of Christian kids basically saying, "We're used to being treated with deference, being in positions of power and privilege, and getting away with patently unlawful activity at school. Now we're being asked to follow the law and share that power and privilege equally with others, and we don't want to!", well......

    So how about some specific and verifiable examples of this anti-Christian oppression and bullying in the schools? What are these kids being prevented from doing, or forced into doing? How is Christianity being "frozen out" of schools, in a way that no other religion is? Does ReachAmerica also want to bring more Islam, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Wicca, and Asatru into the schools, or is it their position that Chistianity somehow merits unique status?

     
  • parent posted at 10:06 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    parent Posts: 347

    Shocked, I hope you are not an educator because you seem to have a difficult time time comprehending this VERY simple point. POINT IS.....Brent is being questioned if he is worthy to serve on the board because he supports ALL students YET not one outrage about this play.

     
  • Humanist posted at 9:36 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3039

    Yes, it is. Bullying is bad no matter what. If they are being bullied, then it should be dealt with like any other bullying. However, that's clearly not what all of this is about and organizations like Reach America have a much deeper agenda than raising "Christian bullying" awareness.

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 7:51 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Shocked: My understanding of what parent is saying that people want to replace what is good and respectable with something very much less and degrading. If we want our children to grow up to be respectable productive citizens than they should be taught values they can be proud of and the desire to be the best they can be.

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 7:47 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Parent: I agree with you.

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 7:47 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    you'll be in good company with hypocrits

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 7:41 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Humanist/Cda. Humanist, "Christian students claim persecution in public schools" for their beliefs. Isn't this a form of bullying?

     
  • Screen Name posted at 7:34 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Screen Name Posts: 802

    http://letsreachamerica.org/it-is-time-for-christians-to-reexamine-the-way-they-educate-their-childrenpart-four-spiritual-detoxification/

     
  • Shocked posted at 6:17 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Shocked Posts: 98

    Parent: Stick to the topic and quit reminding us about your weird fetishes. No one knows or cares what you are saying.

     
  • Peter posted at 6:10 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Peter Posts: 617

    In 21st Century America it is hard to beleive that this is still an issue. What is that is so difficult to educate our children to be globally competative in the free market world? Sound science, math, English/language (or two), crtiical thinking skills, and so on? Isn't there a sound "best practice" model that can be utilized?

     
  • parent posted at 6:03 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    parent Posts: 347

    Ok people I will say it again, please pay close attention.

    WHY is this a big issue yet the play at CHS where the boy placed his hand down his pants and sticks his finer through his fly to simulate a pee-pee in front of a full room under the direction of adults is overlooked by our community? Is there more tolerance for one than the other? POINT MADE !

    GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT!

     
  • Humanist posted at 6:01 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3039

    Uh, I thought I was pretty clear below. In any event, this is not about what I believe or what you believe. It is about keeping everyone's church out of everyone's public schools while still having the individual freedom to believe whatever we want. This Country is pretty awesome, isn't it?

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 5:46 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Humanist: What are you trying to say to me? I support old-fashion values, believe in the power of prayer and would be very happy to see the Lord come back anytime. Are you ready?

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 5:41 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 1847

    Yes, it is propaganda and to learn that the High School is allowing "approve" persons to enter the school at lunch to PREACH to the children. Sick.

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 5:39 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 1847

    Well said, thank you.

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 5:35 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 1847

    So what does brain washing these kids have to do with anything Christian. I watched them on the news just a few minutes ago...it almost made me throw up. They have been brain washed. No one cares if they pray in school, no one. You Brent and those think the way you do are what are making this another CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST controversy.

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 5:17 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    most will diss God, including many current church goers.

     
  • Humanist posted at 5:15 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3039

    Man, you really don't get it do you LTRLTR? Nobody has ever tried to take away anyone's freedom to believe whatever religion they want or force them to believe a religion they didn't want to believe. Which is exactly why our public schools are secular.

    Also, are you aware when "One Nation Under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance?

    As for your last question, what will I do? Well, I'll die. Just like you will someday too.

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 4:51 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    The kids did a great job on the video! They are expressing their desire to have the freedom to believe just as their parents and grandparents did when they defended One Nation Under God"

    I once heard a pastor say that everyone is a believer when they are laying on their death bed and request prayer. Hmmm.....so when the end comes in your life..what will you do?

     
  • LTRLTR posted at 3:28 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    LTRLTR Posts: 1171

    Screen Name: Where did you read " that Coeur d'Alene public school students are being immersed in a sex-saturated, anti-Christian culture where idolatry abounds and that the students are immersed in a public school culture where sexual immorality, impurity, and lust are the hallmarks"???????

    Show the facts, please.

     
  • Randy Myers posted at 1:40 pm on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Randy Myers Posts: 1635

    I appreciate your responses Brent. I especially appreciate:

    "Should religious teachings be taught in public schools? No, that is the job of the parents and the church. Publically funded schools must remain neutral in matters of faith and religion."

    I still prefer Christa Hazel as a trustee in that she has spent so much time, effort, and research into SD271. Her efforts have been similar to your commitment to your church without the construction work and hernia. I have the uneasy feeling I'd like you personally even though we are political opposites. Kumbayah.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 11:18 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Um, my perspectives are not anchored in any pulpit. They are forged from my own experiences. I'd suspect that if historical Jesus waltzed amongst this planets sundry 'Hollywoods' that lightening (or worse) would soon follow. It should be noted that religions and conservatives DONATE far more to the needy than their political counterparts.

     
  • Humanist posted at 11:13 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3039

    Thank you for your responses. All of which seem reasonable to me.

    Quote: "Am I describing Genesis (the book not the band) or The Big Bang? The description fits either."

    I agree that the description fits both when you only consider the formation of matter. Unfortunately, too many on the fundamentalist Christian side think that Creationism and Evolution are theories for the same thing. You clearly understand that is not the case. Perhaps I should have worded the question as "young earth creationism" which uses a literal interpretation of Genesis to form the belief that the universe and all life were formed in 6 days about 6,000 years ago. This obviously would prevent ones acceptance of the Theory of Evolution. Any opinions on that being taught as "science"?

    Quote: "Your question is too broad"

    How about the display of something like the 10 Commandments on the wall? Or scripture quotes?

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 10:46 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Brent Regan Posts: 618

    Thank you for being civil and polite.

    “What is your position on the teaching of Creationism in public schools?”
    That depends on how you define “Creationism”. Consider this: “In the beginning there was nothing, not even time. Then, from nowhere appeared an infinitely hot, infinitely dense singularity of energy that inflated and condensed into matter and some of that matter became you.” Am I describing Genesis (the book not the band) or The Big Bang? The description fits either.

    “What is your position on prayer in schools?”
    Obey the law. I refer you to the incorporated First Amendment to The Constitution.

    “What is your position on religious symbolism (any religion), scripture quotes, and the like in our public schools?”
    Your question is too broad for a specific answer as it could cover proselytizing by district employees (not allowed) to carrying a religious symbol in one’s pocket (allowed). The money in your pocket has “God” on it so it could be said that nearly everyone carries at least one ‘religious symbol’.

     
  • Sunshinegirl posted at 10:37 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Sunshinegirl Posts: 79

    Becky - We, as voters, and I, as a parent of a SD 271 child, deserve to understand the motivations for every single candidate running for the school board. We all know that Duncan Koler formed CBE to get Tom and Terri elected in order to eradicate IB, which they did the moment they had board control. Brent Regan is in the Duncan Koler camp, which indicates there is a further agenda. The THAW may be pointing directly to that agenda. Voters deserve to know.

     
  • Screen Name posted at 9:47 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Screen Name Posts: 802

    A one time donation to a benign group is one thing.

    A one time donation to a group who claims that Coeur d'Alene public school students are being immersed in a sex-saturated, anti-Christian culture where idolatry abounds and that the students are immersed in a public school culture where sexual immorality, impurity, and lust are the hallmarks that define that culture, is a completely different situation.

    More to the point - Does Mr. Regan agree with the Reach America agenda and their description of the Coeur d'Alene public schools?

     
  • Why Not posted at 9:39 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 4302

    Each Warrior wants to leave the mark of his will, his signature, on important acts he touches. This is not the voice of ego but of the human spirit, rising up and declaring that it has something to contribute to the solution of the hardest problems, no matter how vexing - Pat Riley

     
  • Why Not posted at 9:30 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 4302

    I rest my case on the accusations of DeNiles. Even though the Press bumbled my words a bit, maybe I’m too far out of the country this time. I digress; you are the perfect example of why American evangelicals are so out to lunch. You are defining good and evil with conservative and liberal labels. That’s not what Jesus represents DeNiles! I’m not a Christian, but I believe that if the historical Jesus or any other highly aware Person is walking among us now. Heck they would be labeled a liberal by the red letter evangelic.

     
  • Humanist posted at 9:28 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3039

    Your private church charitable work is quite commendable. To clarify your stance, I'm wondering if you would mind answering a few short questions?

    What is your position on the teaching of Creationism in public schools?
    What is your position on prayer in schools?
    What is your position on religious symbolism (any religion), scripture quotes, and the like in our public schools?

    Thank you.

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 9:09 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Brent Regan Posts: 618

    Time to Confess

    With all the outrage over “The Thaw” and calls for a full investigation it is only a matter of time before the full truth comes out. If a one-time donation to Gary Brown for a youth leadership camp is bad then what I am about to tell you is many, many times worse. I normally don’t talk about it, but it is a matter of public record. So, here goes.

    I currently actively support an organization with a Christian Agenda. I am not talking about a few dollars in the collection plate on Sunday, it goes far beyond that. Several years ago our parish lost its lease and Sunday services were being held in the community room at The Spikes. The dream was to build a new church but the funds were lacking. I was aware of dilapidated church on the corner of 11th and Pennsylvania so I offered to buy it, renovate it and then rent it to the parish. It was agreed and that spring my kids and I, along with some volunteers, went work. We installed a new metal roof with insulation and a new ceiling inside. We refinished the floors, remodeled the bathrooms to be ADA compliant, and repainted the building inside and outside. We brought the electrics up to code and installed a handicapped wheelchair elevator.

    It took three months and I gave myself a hernia installing the granite tiles in the sanctuary but we got the job done. Since then the chapel has grown to a church and now St. Joan of Arc Church serves over 400 families.

    The rent? Well I AM a businessman, right? The rent was a dollar a month for three years and then ½ the market rate for another five years. I would have charged less but I had to mortgage my house to buy the church and it was all I could afford. The rent also pays for insurance and city utilities and whatever is left over goes to charity.

    So there you have it.

    Should religious teachings be taught in public schools? No, that is the job of the parents and the church. Publically funded schools must remain neutral in matters of faith and religion.

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 8:34 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    It's gotta be a broad coordinated conspiracy...it's the only explanation! The commenters on this blog must be part of it! They have chosen the Press blog to begin their takeover of our nation! Someone call Glen Beck...he needs to know!

     
  • Screen Name posted at 8:21 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Screen Name Posts: 802

    Here is what Reach America thinks of the public schools here in Coeur d'Alene:

    If your Christian children and/or teens are attending a public school, they are being immersed in a sex-saturated, anti-Christian culture where idolatry abounds. Acts 17:28 reminds us that it is where we live and move, we become. “In him we live and move and have our being.” Please, someone tell me…how can our youth “put to death whatever belongs to your (their) earthly nature,” when they are immersed in a public school culture where sexual immorality, impurity, and lust are the hallmarks that define that culture?

    Definition of idoltary: Idolatry is a pejorative term for the worship of an idol, a physical object such as a cult image, as a god, or practices believed to verge on worship, such as giving undue honor and regard to created forms other than God.

    The hallmarks of public education are sexual immorality, anti-Christian beliefs, impurity, lust and idoltary? I always thought the hallmarks of public education had something to to with reading, writing and arithmetic.

    Brent Regan supports Reach America. Does Brent Regan believe that the hallmarks of the Coeur d'Alene Public School District are those as defined by Reach America? If so, it is deeply troubling that a School Board member would have such extreme beliefs. If not, why does Brent Regan support Reach America?

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 7:55 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    by comments below, proof positive HREI and its members are anti-straight, christian, and white.
    The dominant white population that pays the taxes is pushing back. They want America to remain free and sovereign. I sense the current push is to create social unrest. OWS didn't need to descend upon. they already had an active disruptive cell in HREI.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 7:11 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Seems to me that Mr. Regan is adopting a most rational approach to this situation. For those families that prefer their more traditional religious oriented education perspectives Regan accepts and supports the idea that they need to deploy their own didactic system(s). That respects the private values and choices of these families while preserving the integrity of our public schools. That should be lauded not criticized.

    Once again we have contributors more intent on demeaning Christian values than allowing them their choices. That is intolerant, AKA bigotry. Looks like Brent is more accepting than most progressives. He has identified a workable solution.

    The only solution acceptable to liberals is to tear down institutions of religion completely. That would be their agenda. As I look about this city and this region I find the character of these communities far more peaceful and civil than the crime and disease ridden communities where progressivism reigns. It would be better to define liberalism more with regression than progression.

     
  • Randy Myers posted at 6:51 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Randy Myers Posts: 1635

    LOL. I don't recall HREI mentioned in the article. The conspiracy here is the THAW group. The video is propaganda and very well done.

    I'd like to think we have Sunday schools for these Christian teens and that we should continue with the separation of Church and State.

     
  • Peter posted at 5:22 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Peter Posts: 617

    You crack me up concerned. That is the best statement you got? Incapable of proving otherwise so therefore your going to take your ball home and cry "racist". Funny...funny indeed.

     
  • Why Not posted at 3:28 am on Mon, May 13, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 4302

    Mahiun it seems pretty clear, except maybe to certain American evangelical Christian types, this is exactly as you say. An agenda to evangelize public schools. Not only is this a disservice to the majority of Americans, it's a misrepresentation of the message of Christ. Red letter evangelical Christians are ignorant about the message, if this wasn't true they wouldn't be so committed to one political party and they wouldn't the out trying to control school boards, sheriff’s departments and in building walls between themselves and others who don't believe in life as a theological rather than biological miracle.

    Darn right this is an agenda and this conflict goes a lot deeper than Brent Regan. It’s as if the Klan has risen from the ashes and assumed a new mission to control how and who is considered American.

     
  • garfield posted at 11:20 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    garfield Posts: 32

    why does this mean anything other than the fact that Mr. Regan has supported this organization?

     
  • Mahiun posted at 10:18 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 4970

    I am a bit surprised that, even in Kootenai County, two things seems to have gone completely unnoticed:

    [A] This is an "agenda" if ever there were one: to "Christianize" schools that are both intended and required to serve the entire public, Christian and non-Christian alike.

    [B] This would appear to create a pretty clear conflict of interest problem for Brent Regan. There may or may not have been an actual conflict (but IMHO it absolutely did), but at the very least it certainly creates the perception of one, and raises both eyebrows and questions. If elected, he is likely to find himself the subject of an investigation for exactly that reason: potential conflict of interest.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 9:48 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Peter

    Your comment is racist. Had it been ANY other group you would be blasted for your comment. You sir are a racist but will you be called out on it because it is against whites?

     
  • Humanist posted at 9:35 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3039

    I love how when the white, male, Christian conservatives actually feel some resistance to their historic societal steamrolling that they have suddenly become persecuted. Cry me a river.

     
  • Peter posted at 9:14 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Peter Posts: 617

    Only in this freedom to choose divers nation of America can you be and do anything you want EXCEPT be white, male, Christian, conservative.

    Yep other than the fact they make up the majority of an obstructionsict low poll rated congress, can vote, express their views freely w/o the threat of arrest as much as the next citizen, make more money on average than minorities, enjoy a better overall quality of life than minorities, don't have to worry about losing their heavily gerry mandered districts for the next 10yrs, hold higher position of government office than their minority counterpart, and essentially enjoy the very freedom that any other citizen enjoys they sure are oppressed. Oh the oppression!

    Someday these poor poor white xtian males will break the chain of oppression to free themselve from the inhumanity of the attack dogs, the firehose being turned on poor poor, the lynching, slavery legacy, jim crowe laws, kkk, the disproportionate number of their young males sent to jail, being told to ride in the back of the bus, being told they cannot go to this public school w/o the help of the national guard, and on and on...somday they will have that freedom. Said, no white xtian male ever.

     
  • Idaho42 posted at 8:44 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Idaho42 Posts: 7

    This has nothing to do with the old board, so why are you bringing it up other than to change the subject. If Mr. Regan has an issue with the public having questions about him then maybe he shouldn't be running for a public office. He decided to run and therefore the public has a right to ask questions.

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 7:43 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Only in this freedom to choose divers nation of America can you be and do anything you want EXCEPT be white, male, Christian, conservative.

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 7:18 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    If Christa Hazel had chosen to give "a simple act of charitable giving" to an organization encouraging the expanded influence of Islam, or Buddhism, or Atheism, or Humanism, in our society and governmental institutions, I'm sure you would ignore it. Right?

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 6:43 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    Yeah...it's gotta be a conspiracy. That's the only explanation....sarcasm intended.

     
  • will-- posted at 6:35 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    will-- Posts: 923

    "You know, we all complain about the lack of good candidates for public office..."

    The malcontents have taken a page from the 0bama play book where destruction is preferable to a debate. Saul Alinsky, a community organizer himself wrote the book "Rules for Radicals" where he instructs the Have-Nots on how to take it away from the productive elements of society.

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 6:34 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    the Press is aiming through the crosshairs of HREI with the intent of preserving humanism in the schools.

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 6:30 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    I can't speak for Regan, but balancing religious humanism is a good thing!

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 6:28 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    The old guard repeatedly used the district email system to further a desperate agenda.

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 6:15 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    I wish the lies of the past school board were displayed for all to remember.

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 6:11 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    there was no option back in those days for parents concerned about their children. Regan may help provide a viable alternative to the day dreams of the past.

    "When it comes to the Origin of Life there are only two possibilities: creation or spontaneous generation. There is no third way. Spontaneous generation was disproved one hundred years ago, but that leads us to only one other conclusion, that of supernatural creation. We cannot accept that on philosophical grounds; therefore, we choose to believe the impossible: that life arose spontaneously by chance!"

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 5:25 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    I'm waiting for you to post something relevant...not holding my breath.

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 5:22 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    Why is it a "charade"? Nothing that has been reported about Regan's comments or actions, now or in the past, is false or exaggerated. The fact that his words and actions may make him a difficult candidate for some parents to vote for, doesn't mean that his words and actions shouldn't be exposed to the public.

     
  • parent posted at 5:17 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    parent Posts: 347

    I think I need to get to the bottom of this pee-pee issue. Just saying. The public needs to know as you said. ; )

     
  • Humanist posted at 5:10 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3039

    For those questioning the timing of the article in the press, you should probably consider that it has to do with the timing of the Fox News article: http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/teens-decide-to-fight-back-against-anti-christian-bullies.html

    And the Brent Regan connection is definitely notable given the upcoming school board election. I would consider this good journalism.

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 4:45 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    Do you think The Press should have waited until after the election to expose Regan's support for this group? I think the public deserves to know who they are voting for.

    If the Press found out, for example, that Christa Hazel financed an organization that promoted spreading atheism (hypothetical example...not in the least bit true) you'd probably want to know before the election, right? The Press is doing its job; they are providing information to the public. I agree that many on the left exaggerate some of the controversies around Regan, but he sure has provided many chances for them to do so.

     
  • hayden_guy posted at 4:27 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    hayden_guy Posts: 399

    parent- you are aware that Shakespeare did not write to impress the "upper-class" people? That his work is fairly low-brow, filled with innuendoes? Shakespeare is not meant to be family friendly.

     
  • DeNiles posted at 4:02 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    This article would seem more purposed to discredit a candidate and influence the outcome of an imminent election. This - from a paper whose editorial so recently railed against indignant use of its comments section? One has to wonder if the paper deeply investigated all said candidates for some sort of smut or did it focus on just a select few?

    Looks as though the CdA Press is aiming ever lower. Then again sewage is commonly fluid and naturally seeps to the lowest reaches.

     
  • Flash Gordon posted at 3:39 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Flash Gordon Posts: 1283

    Mr Brown's ministry is old stuff packaged in a "contemporary" form. He and those that agree and support him dislike public education in general, despise secular society as embodied in a constitutional government, and have basically declared war on anything not christian based.......

    Mr Brown prefers a theocratic form of government that is inconsistent with the framers of our constitution.....but I must admit, he is fun to read:)

     
  • parent posted at 3:37 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    parent Posts: 347


    Wow, does timing have ANYTHING to do with this article ? WHY is this a big issue yet the play at CHS where the boy placed his hand down his pants and sticks his finer through his fly to simulate a pee-pee in front of a full room under the direction of adults is overlooked by our community? Is there more tolerance for one than the other? POINT MADE !
    NICE PLAY CHRISTA, MIKE AND DFO, use faith to cause harm to your opponent. I thought you would have learned a lesson last time you played dirty. Sorry does not mean anything if you continue the practice.
    I had to replace the actual body part to pee-pee because of the warning underneath. TOO FUNNY!
    (Your comment cannot be accepted due to the presence of profanity. Please remove any objectionable content from your comment and try again.) : ) : ) : ) !!!!

     
  • Idaho42 posted at 3:30 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Idaho42 Posts: 7

    I am really beginning to question Mr. Regan's interest in public schools. He chose not to send his own children to public school and now we find out he is a supporter of an organization that encourages parents to remove their children from the public school system. Does he really support or schools?

    I understand that these are his personal choices, which are his own business but I would like to know why he all of a sudden wants to be a decision maker in the public school system when he obviously hasn't supported it in the past (other than paying property taxes).

     
  • jmowreader posted at 3:00 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    jmowreader Posts: 1220

    Please tell me you didn't mention Tebow in that article...Tim Tebow doesn't come down for ridicule because he's extremely Christian, he comes down for ridicule because he's a terrible quarterback.

     
  • hayden_guy posted at 1:32 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    hayden_guy Posts: 399

    Mr. Regan,
    Are you implying that someone in the district is unethical? Using district property, staff or students for political campaigns?

     
  • Keven Johnson posted at 1:10 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Keven Johnson Posts: 1290

    How are my comments without merit? Re-Read what I wrote. I was not speaking about school board members, but those who seek public office in general. I realize that school board members don't get paid nor do they get a pension. I also did not and have not said anything negative about Mr. Regan's opponent for the school board position. I'm sure her motives are honorable as well. I support Mr. Regan because I know how he thinks about things and his general philosophy on how government should work. My vote will be FOR Mr. Regan, not AGAINST Ms. Hazel. You completely missed the point of what I said; perhaps you have an agenda as well?

     
  • Why Not posted at 1:04 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Why Not Posts: 4302

    “Why can't I pray in school?" Who says you cannot pray, meditate or sing Hari Krishna at school? Hey as long as you are not being disruptive to others, who won’t allow it?

    "Why do I have to check my religion at the door?" If you are wearing it like a gang member, or attempting to sing hymns during science class, then that’s disruptive. Do schools allow dressing in gang affiliation colors or wear gang insignias?

    "Why do they teach every other theory in science except creation?" Because Little Janie, creationism has absolutely zero scientific credibility.

    Only You allow yourselves to be fed to lions and you adults who insist on brainwashing children so called Christian values are failing your child’s freedom to explore the world and to find their own identity. As Thomas Aquinas so perfectly said, “Prius vita quam doctrine”, life is prior to doctrines, all doctrine, so let kids live and learn, and quit trying to mold them into dualistic religious mongers,

    Sunshine - I agree, there is something just so false about Regan and his objectives. Politicizing the school board, or advancing any religious agendas in public schools is wrong. Kids and their adult minders can form their own clubs and organizations, but turning them into right wing robots in public school is Un American. What's next, mandatory bible study and summer bible camps? Sounds like China under Mao and the old Stalinist Russia, not America.

     
  • Sunshinegirl posted at 12:50 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Sunshinegirl Posts: 79

    And Keven Johnson- your comments are without merit. School board members don't get a pension. They are volunteers. Typically people who run for school board either have an education agenda or truly value and respect public education and want the best for the kids/community. Tom and Terri ran on the anti-IB platform- an agenda they executed without consideration for parents who petitioned against the decision. This article points to Mr Regan's possible agendas: to either get religion into our schools or tear them down so that parents will put them into the reach america option he has helped fund. I mean he homeschooled his kids which leads one to think he doesn't believe in public schools in the first place.

     
  • Sunshinegirl posted at 12:43 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Sunshinegirl Posts: 79

    I love how suddenly Brent Regan says "when I gave money it was a different organization than it is today" yet photos of these kids are on his Facebook page. I guess they are there to encourage us voters that he really is interested in kids, despite all of his "why vote for me" comments center around how successful he is and has nothing to do with caring for our kids or our community. Mr narcissist needs to look in the mirror. Not buying it, sir.

    Hamilton has stated that he doesn't teach tolerance to his kids. I mean, really lets stack up the board with religious zealots. Perfect for public schools who educate kids of different faiths. If you want a religious education- there are plenty of options for that, but don't impose your desires on the public schools.

    Leads me to wonder if this is the goal of our right wing school board long term. And Carol Goodman going after a PF seat...just seems ironic.

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 12:33 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Brent Regan Posts: 618

    “Why doesn't Brent Regan have any photos of public school kids?”

    Because it is unethical and against District policy to use District property, staff or students for political campaigns. Ethics may not matter to some, but they matter to me.

     
  • Keven Johnson posted at 12:13 pm on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Keven Johnson Posts: 1290

    You know, we all complain about the lack of good candidates for public office; that all we seem to get are 'career politicians' who seek office to enrich themselves, empower themselves, and secure their retirement at our expense with a nice pension. For many, the interests of those they serve are secondary to their own interests.

    But then when the rare candidate for public office comes along that is not a career politician, but someone who has actually been successful in private sector business and in life, we can't tear them down fast enough. Is it any wonder that many, if not most of the people in government are career politicians out for their own gain instead of productive, successful members of society who truly desire to contribute some of their expertise for the common good?

     
  • MockingJay posted at 11:30 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    MockingJay Posts: 65

    Brent Regan has made Reach America the cover photo on his FB page. Kids from this video appear around his plane in his hangar with Regan and Brown. His campaign manager, Becky, is a Reach America parent. Why doesn't Brent Regan have any photos of public school kids? Because he doesn't mingle with them.

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 10:55 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Brent Regan Posts: 618

    Some years ago, Gary Brown and Tyler Smotherman approached me for financial support for a youth leadership program called “Reach America”. This was not the school Reach America is today. I knew Tyler, who was attending CHS at the time, to be an outstanding, articulate and admired young man who was well respected in our community. He was even the youth speaker at one of the early Tea Party rallies. I agreed to provide some funding as it is not at all uncommon for me to provide charitable assistance to local area organizations that are in need. These have included CASA, Shriners, Idaho Search and Rescue, Silver Lake Young Marines, St. Helens Fund for the Poor, United Gospel Mission and several First Robotic Teams among others.

    It is unfortunate and sad that there are those who are so desperately blinded by their political agendas that they would mischaracterize a simple act of charitable giving as a character flaw.

     
  • WhitePine posted at 10:53 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    WhitePine Posts: 137

    Oh please. Ask the high school students, who are not fundamentalist Christians, if they are ever harassed by fundamentalist Christians. In this area, it happens a lot.

     
  • Becky posted at 10:41 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Becky Posts: 4

    Let’s use a little reason here. One’s limited support of an organization is not an endorsement of everything the organization believes. Christa is on record as having supported only liberals and Democrats in recent history. Using the same logic applied to Brent, that would mean she supports the Democrat Party Platform, which would be an absurd assumption.

    The real point of this story seems to be to discredit Brent Regan. Brent’s character and reputation trumped the race card accusation, so now they’re going with Plan B. I’m glad the voters are smart enough to see through this charade.

     
  • hayden_guy posted at 10:29 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    hayden_guy Posts: 399

    Humanist-
    Students can pray out-loud.
    The key is-
    Does it interfere with the instruction? If not, they can pray all they want. As loud as they want. It can not be lead by school officials though.

     
  • Calgon posted at 10:21 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Calgon Posts: 4

    I find the most disturbing fact in this article is that a current school board member, BRENT REGAN, has donated money to an organization that encourages parents to remove their children from public schools or the "buildings". I hope voters remember that when someone tells you who they really ARE, listen!!! This article reads to me as yet another endorsement for Christa Hazel, a candidate who actually supports public schools!

     
  • Humanist posted at 10:13 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Humanist Posts: 3039

    Quote: "The video shows clips of the students who attend Brown's program posing questions: "Why can't I pray in school?" "Why do I have to check my religion at the door?" "Why do they teach every other theory in science except creation?"

    1. You can. Anyone can. Silently.
    2. You don't. Your religion is your religion.
    3. Because creationism is not a valid scientific theory.

    Pretty simple really. For them to think that our secular, public schools should pander to their religion is nothing but pure arrogance and their "persecution" is invented.

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 10:09 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    George Wald, another prominent Evolutionist (a Harvard University biochemist and Nobel Laureate), wrote, "When it comes to the Origin of Life there are only two possibilities: creation or spontaneous generation. There is no third way. Spontaneous generation was disproved one hundred years ago, but that leads us to only one other conclusion, that of supernatural creation. We cannot accept that on philosophical grounds; therefore, we choose to believe the impossible: that life arose spontaneously by chance!" ("The Origin of Life," Scientific American, 191:48, May 1954).

     
  • InAweofNature posted at 9:17 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    InAweofNature Posts: 1

    This reads more as an advertisement for Mr. Brown's organization than a news article. Where is the investigative reporting that good journalism requires?

     
  • mister d posted at 9:03 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    I read Brown's unfounded allegations and gossip and don't buy it for one minute. Why do these nuts keep coming to Idaho. Regan just needs to go as a Board member and the sooner the better. He should take Sedden with him.

     
  • whatwillbe53 posted at 8:27 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    whatwillbe53 Posts: 178

    Humanist Charles F. Potter writes, "Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American school is a school of humanism. What can a theistic Sunday school's meeting for an hour once a week and teaching only a fraction of the children do to stem the tide of the five-day program of humanistic teaching?" (Charles F. Potter, "Humanism: A New Religion," 1930)

     
  • Paige posted at 8:27 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Paige Posts: 6

    Allegations. I get the distinct impression that Brown uses unethical tactics to try to persuade the public about a non-event. I also think that he is projecting his own personal issue onto others. After all, wouldn't one agree that the height of bullying is to loudly proclaim that all those who don't agree with me will one day find themselves burning in a fiery furnace even Nebuchadnezzar couldn't replicate? That's using threat and intimidation to gain compliance, and it is beyond me how one can fail to recognize that what they see "out there" is their own reflection staring back at them.

     
  • Miketeague posted at 8:23 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Miketeague Posts: 2102

    Other then being a half page campaign ad proving that Regan is against public schools, what purpose was this article suppose to serve? General accusations made with absolutely nothing to back them up “I don’t want to say“. One more example of someone wanting to control everyone else’s life.
    Maureen Dolan is a better journalist than this why was her time and the press’s ink wasted?

     
  • hayden_guy posted at 8:06 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    hayden_guy Posts: 399

    Wait, can someone please expand on "And, church youth group representatives from a variety of local churches are on campus regularly, signing in as "approved visitors" and joining the students for lunch in the cafeteria." ?

    What are they doing there at lunch? Are they preaching to the students? Try to convert the "unbelievers"? I have heard that parents are not allowed to come to schools to eat lunch with kids, but youth pastors can come on a regular basis? (Yeah, really sounds like an attack on Christianity to me).

    Approved visitors? Why are they there?

     
  • Screen Name posted at 8:02 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    Screen Name Posts: 802

    Please read the beliefs of Reach America, a group which Brent Regan supports on the Reach America website: http://letsreachamerica.org/what-we-believe/

    From reading the Reach America website, it appears that anyone who believes anything that is contrary to their beliefs as set forth above, is not a good citizen and that the goal of Reach America is to make every person in the United States share their beliefs. It also appears the Reach America does not want any separation between church and state. I don't share in the beliefs of Reach America and I consider myself to be a good citizen. Am I to burn for eternity? Babies born as sinners? Really?

    My impression is that the purpose of Reach America is to develop missionaries to convert children to Christianity who will, in adulthood, cause the United States to become a Christian Nation with no separation between church and state and who will seek to exclude all other religious beliefs. Is this not the situation in many Muslim countries? This is very troubling as it sounds like religious fanaticism here at home.

    I wonder if Mr. Regan would be so kind as to explain his understanding of the beliefs and goals of Reach America and if he agrees with the same.

     
  • cdanative33 posted at 7:48 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    cdanative33 Posts: 361

    Brent Regan donated money to a group that encourages parents to keep their kids out of the public schools...interesting.

    Let me get this straight, kids that have been homeschooled their whole lives are complaining about bullying in the public schools...huh?

     
  • lola123 posted at 7:25 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    lola123 Posts: 338

    According to brown, "Surveys show, he said, that a high percentage of children leave the church after they graduate from high school."

    Could this be because, they now have been taught to analyze and think for themselves without the indoctrination and constant mind control of the religious zealots?
    Their worst fear is that the years of brainwashing the young mind has been overcome by the influence of education.
    Keep religion OUT of the schools. They have every opportunity to go to a private school if their parents want them controlled. That is their privilege but they should not try to intimidate others.

     
  • LMYCDA posted at 7:17 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    LMYCDA Posts: 1847

    What a bunch of pooh this article is. No one is stopping these children from praying, no one. This Brown dude is just wanting to stir up more controversy . Idaho has enough of that with the republican legislatures.

    NO PRAYER IN SCHOOL.........SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Hey, Brown, open up a private school...but don't ask for federal funds!!!!! Get it from all the republican's and Christians...seems they can afford to fund it.

     
  • cdanative123 posted at 6:20 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    cdanative123 Posts: 7

    YES!!! BRING IT BACK.

     
  • voxpop posted at 6:13 am on Sun, May 12, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    As was said in the article, you can easily pray at school. You can practice your religion. What zealots want though is the right to make everyone else pray, as they do. What if a child is raised as a Buddhist, or Mormon, or White Power advocate? Do they also get to proselytize? Religion does not belong in school because like opinions everyone has a version of their own. Believe what you will, pray as you want, just don't expect everyone else to follow your lead. The school day isn't long enough as it is.

     
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