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Fugitive caught after high-speed pursuit

Dalton wanted as an escapee from community custody in Washington

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37 comments:

  • Rogue Cop posted at 10:56 pm on Mon, Feb 11, 2013.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2369

    HEY, I'm here to serve!

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 6:45 am on Mon, Feb 11, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    hiway90, Billy the ......... wait for it, wait for it,............ "KID"?

    Very astute Rationale and RC. ;)

     
  • Rationale posted at 3:05 pm on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    hiway90,

    So apparently all violent felons are 6'6" and weigh 300 lbs.?

    What an idiotic, asinine comment.

     
  • Rogue Cop posted at 1:40 pm on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2369

    Yeah, I guess a "skinny dumb kid" isn't capable of being dangerous. Too skinny to escape from from custody. Too skinny to deal drugs. Too skinny to kill someone with a car driving at 80 MPH. Too skinny to pull the trigger on a gun.

    How could he possibly be dangerous? Ever see how big Joseph Duncan is? Charlie Manson?

     
  • hiway90 posted at 8:40 am on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    hiway90 Posts: 61

    Wow.....speeds all the way up to 80 for a short while?
    Ole Roscoe and the boys got to push their Dodges to their limits
    Good capture boys, he looks real dangerous, skinny dumb kid.

     
  • Rationale posted at 8:08 am on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    Mahiun,

    What I am saying is that there are limitations based on the actions of a person. A gun is not capable of doing anything without a loser at the other end pulling the trigger. The limitation is on the person, not the item.

    As for background checks, I'm all for them...but they do no good for criminals. They will get their hands on a gun no matter what. And background checks are already in place when purchased through retail outlets....

     
  • Rogue Cop posted at 10:50 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Rogue Cop Posts: 2369

    Well it's finally come out into the open why "the foolist" has such an axe to grind with cops. Of course it doesn't justify all the blatant lies he's told. I reckon he's a perpetual victim though so we have to let him post his psycho-babble.

     
  • Mahiun posted at 9:35 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 5399

    So in other words, Ratty, you're saying that:
    [a] There are valid, constitutionally supportable and permissible limitations to 2nd Amendment rights.

    [b] Those limitations should be based on metrics and checks against one's background, as recorded in public records readily available and shared among law enforcement agencies and firearms vendors.

    Funny, that's almost exactly what's being proposed in Congress, that has the local Twofers howling.

     
  • Rationale posted at 7:09 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    floorist,

    Once again, you ignore the fact that it is YOUR mentality that put him back on the streets. The chase never happens if you remove the scumbag by locking him up. Instead, people like you keep releasing them to do no harm.

    As for the chase, you conveniently didn't address my comment about whether a child molester should be let go because you don't like the chase or the time of day. So, under your brilliant thought process, you have a criminal in sight, but let him go to do even more damage because you didn't spot him between midnight and 5 a.m.! Wow, your intellect is astounding!

    He wasn't just a druggie, he was violent. And, like all other brainless people who push drugs as doing no harm other than to the person who takes them, it's a cop out. Losers who take drugs hurt more than themselves...they hurt family, friends, children...they cause healthcare costs to skyrocket..

    Once again, the problem isn't the law...it's with the criminals who break them and the losers who support the criminals!

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 7:08 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Yes floorist. These repeat offenders that are NOT productive members of society need to somehow be made an example of.

    Our society is such a mamby pamby cushy "I don't want to face reality" society. We wouldn't have the crime we have today if we actually held people accountable and took the license of the lawyers that get these crooks of in the first place.

    I'm not saying that every cop is perfect. However they DO put their lives on the line EVERY day for you and me. You need to learn some respect. I truly hope you NEVER are in need of their help.

     
  • Rationale posted at 5:15 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    No, floorist,

    That is a ridiculous, asinine analogy. You are equating killing a defenseless, innocent child with removing a worthless, repeat, violent criminal?

    Yes, he should be removed from the gene pool. Why? Because he is an adult consciously and intentionally breaking the law. And he is not guilty of minor infractions, either. He's a worthless parasite on society.

    But please, do not ever equate vermin like him to an innocent fetus!

    Once again, this proves how stupid society is. They support a worthless scumbag who has proven repeatedly that he does not deserve to be part of the gene pool!

     
  • Rationale posted at 2:57 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    And you think letting violent criminals back on the street is a good thing? That is concerning!

     
  • Rationale posted at 2:55 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    concerned,

    Sorry for the oversight! Actually, this segues into yet another asinine story from New England proving how stupid society is becoming!

    Apparently, a man serving life in prison for a 1990 murder has been on hormone therapy because he wants to be a "she." Oh, and the taxpayers have been funding this. Wait...it gets better....now they are discussing giving this loser gender reassignment surgery...also at the taxpayers' expense!

    Of course, with the comments on this thread, I expect them to support the idea of giving a convicted murderer whatever he wants...after all, the laws are the problem, not the criminals!

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 8:03 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    Rationale

    You forgot, they want to "rehabilitate them" with other peoples money too. ;)

     
  • Rationale posted at 7:45 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    Wow, it never ceases to amaze me how stupid society has become. People here are supporting a completely worthless, REPEAT, violent offender. They blame the laws and the police for the actions of a complete scumbag! Let's look deeper here:

    1) One person is upset they let a dog bite him. Hmmm, he is a violent offender, and he ran away. You are right, we shouldn't have let the dog bite him. The cops should have put a bullet in his head and rid society of this vermin.

    2) One person complained about the chase. Well, if this loser had molested a child, would you have told the cops not to chase him? It's not like this guy was wanted for smoking in a no smoking zone.

    3) People are blaming the laws instead of the actions of a worthless dirtbag. Reality check, brainiacs: the problem isn't the laws. It's with the losers who break the laws. The chase would have never happened if this parasite wasn't let back out into society by the idiotic mentality that believe people like him will be rehabilitated. This wasn't his first offense!

    Here's a thought...place the blame where it belongs! Not on the laws, not on the police, but on this loser! If he's so great, then invite him in your home and rehabilitate him yourself! If you would not want him in your home, then you are being hypocritical!

     
  • Rationale posted at 7:35 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    Rationale Posts: 1976

    Well, Mahiun,

    Your question is completely irrelevant. Should this guy be allowed guns? Gee, Mahiun, since he is a repeat, violent, convicted felon, he's already forbidden from owning them.

    Will you telling him not to stop him from stealing one? Nope.

    The reason he is a REPEAT offender? Because of the loser mentality that keeps putting him back on the streets!

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 7:09 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    "KNOWN GANG MEMBER", "METH DEALER", <VIOLENT CRIMINAL"!

    Yes NoName, more like him SHOULD die from lead poisoning.

    Thank you officers, deputies and troopers for protection our community form this kind of garbage.

     
  • NoName posted at 6:33 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    NoName Posts: 253

    Dude's lucky it wasn't the CDA police that got to him first or he would have likely died from lead poisoning.

     
  • Hayden Rez posted at 12:00 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

    Hayden Rez Posts: 11

    I doubt he would, the comment section on this online paper is ripe with people spewing garbage to try and push a leftist view on the people of North Idaho. People of Kootenai County love the security that is provided by their officers, just wish there were more.

    The person that ran from the police made a decision to do so, it is the job of the cops to capture him and make sure he is not a continued threat to the public. They did their job and from the report seems like the only one injured was him, like it is supposed to happen. Gang member, meth dealer/user, violent criminal all sounds like a productive member of our community.

    Let me ask you all this, someone who kills another person or robs you of all your worldly items is confronted by the police. This confronted person then gets in a vehicle and leaves, everyone knowing this person will re-offend and continue to victimize people, should police chase and capture or just say ahh never mind he got away again, to later

    Its kind of time to pluck your heads out of your armpits and take a stance against crime. People that disagree with police action on violent people are part of .3% of Americans that just want to disagree with everything that happens in the United States. However they rarely have jobs and sit on their computer all day trying to push their view onto others. These people have contributed to the downfall of the American Society for the last sixty years, funny thing is that they dont even know they are doing it. They have consumed the Kool Aid of the ACLU for to many years

    JL Turk dogs are used to save human lives from being put in a dangerous encounter with a desperate criminal. It would be nice for a dog to get shot rather than one of our heroes.

    Not4Sale, your name says it all, even if the criminal in the pursuit was Joseph Duncan you would disagree with any cop breaking the speed limit to catch him, lost cause.....

    CitizenEleven, shows concern for public safety to push his agenda, we can speculate all day long but the fact of it is that the training of our cops showed and kept the public safe, as if often does.

    1Voice, another self describing name, he speaks only for himself. Since when has meth not been paired with violent crime. Silly thing is that it has been statistically proven that 82% of all crime is a direct result of drug sales or use, but cops usually only devote 10% or less of their man power towards fighting this. They believe the old lady complaining about a barking dog is more important to protecting their view in the public.

    The list of propagandist on this thread is too long to keep up with. I encourage people with a realistic view on what they would like society to look like to chime in, because the .3 %ers have the time and dedication to try and skew the way society really views these types of things. Please dont let the .3% win and take over our country with their Marxist views.

    http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/

     
  • Triumph posted at 6:36 pm on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

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    Ill tell ya what JL... I'm guessing that if the wanted felon is hiding in your yard, you'd want to police to use whatever resource they can to get him out of there..

     
  • BorneNIdaho posted at 12:46 pm on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    BorneNIdaho Posts: 142

    So concernedcitizen, you would have preferred the cops shot and killed this guy like the one they did last year about this time? You think murder is a good thing? That is concerning! The police are not judge, jury, and executioners!

    Where is your common sense?

     
  • BorneNIdaho posted at 12:38 pm on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    BorneNIdaho Posts: 142

    You think I need I need help, well I think this county and country need help! As the saying goes, doing the same thing and expecting a different result is insane, so why do we keep doing the same thing thinking it will work next time? Our country is quickly devolving into a tyrannical police state, and our county is doing a great job of helping with that!

    This guy may not be a good person, but the wasted tax money, and the many people put in danger by this chase, is not worth it! I know of at least 5 people personally, 3 of them young children who were put in danger this ridiculous high speed chase. I would rather the tweaker got away, than one of those people got injured in a car crash caused by the police chase.

     
  • J L Turk posted at 12:18 pm on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    J L Turk Posts: 7

    Contact with the K9 why not just say mauled by a police controlled canine weapon. oh right because it is to close to the truth. I have no problem with the Law enforcement community doing their job, but why is it legal to have a dog attack anyone? Let them sniff out drugs and track lost people and fugitives but to let them attack a human is just not right.

     
  • idaredneck posted at 12:08 pm on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    idaredneck Posts: 95

    I was at the intersection of Best and 4th street 1 block from my kids school. Kids were nearing the crosswalks and parents driving away with their children. I would like to let everyone know that ALL of the officers (there was well over 30 it looked like), undercovers, state, sheriff, CDA, took the safety of all of our lives very seriously. It was too late to issue a lock down for these schools. It was the idiot running that was driving recklessly, even if the cops backed off he would have kept going at even higher speeds. The police stayed close to him with all of there sirens. Some going ahead on separate streets to close down intersections before he approached. When we heard the multiple sirens coming our way everyone at the intersection froze.

    Thank you police officers. I commend you on the apprehension of this tweeker and the way you protected us by staying close and making as much noise as possible. It would have been worse if you had backed off , someone other that Dalton would have been hurt.

     
  • Not4sale posted at 10:19 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    Not4sale Posts: 173

    Seems like an over-reaction and andrenaline rush for an " escapee from community custody. " Not exactly proportionate response to an offense. I think our law community needs to review their procedures for the cause and effects of high speed pursuits following traffic pullovers. Isn't that a "skinhead" COP in the picture.

     
  • flattopramen posted at 10:11 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    flattopramen Posts: 140

    Blame Big Pharma... They allowed the meth trade/culture to explode in late 80's into the 90's as they literally watched profits soar. Took over 15 years before the states started seriously controlling OTC ingredient sales. Too late.

    Just enough time to addict an entire generation of parents who ended up producing a bunch of these kids... Crack babies really. Violent and reckless.


     
  • Mahiun posted at 10:03 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    Mahiun Posts: 5399

    So, a simple question for you, then: should this person be allowed to buy guns? Why or why not? What are you basing your decision on?

     
  • CitizenEleven posted at 9:21 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    CitizenEleven Posts: 1

    At the time this high speed chase was going on, students were leaving schools and many walking home. I had cops in pursuit of nothing go through the intersection on Govt. Way and Harrison doing over 80 and then a sheriff heading down govt. way and turn on Harrison doing the same speed, right towards Bryan School and the many kids that walk home on that street because it has lights and is safe to cross unlike 3rd and 4th. They were not in pursuit of any vehicle, just in a hurry to be part of the action. This was reckless behavior on the part of the Sheriffs Department driving at those speeds while kids are getting out of school. You think kids know they are not supposed to enter an intersection when they hear sirens? Shame you you all, especially the ones that were speeding just to assist and not actually chasing anyone. Lucky nobody died or the county would be facing some heavy lawsuits.

     
  • 1voice posted at 8:27 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    1voice Posts: 56

    That's some reporting: "violent offender", "dangerous drugs". No explanation. I'll tell you what is dangerous, about ten cop cars screaming through Dalton at 80 miles per hour to pursue someone for a non-violent crime. This insanity ended up very near my home.

     
  • capnbutch posted at 8:01 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    capnbutch Posts: 729

    Why is there a reference to "Skinhead" here and why does reporter Cole capitalize it? Is this some kind of abstruse racism?

     
  • mister d posted at 7:17 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    Good job officers, another doper off the streets. Keep it that way judges. Only suggestion I would have is let the K9 finish his appetizer before you pull him off the scum.

     
  • truthful1 posted at 6:57 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    truthful1 Posts: 554

    Hard to realize you're a minority, huh?

     
  • concernedcitizen posted at 6:41 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    concernedcitizen Posts: 2530

    I cannot believe you people.

    THANK YOU DEPUTIES, OFFICERS AND TROOPERS for getting this KNOWN gang member and his drugs off of our streets. I would have been happier if they could have disposed of him. Oh well, better luck next time.

     
  • wheels1 posted at 6:39 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    wheels1 Posts: 461

    @BorneNIdaho, may I suggest you seek the counseling you so desperately seem to need sooner than later.

     
  • mythoughts posted at 6:24 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

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    Hmm...a methhead who stays in their own home doing meth and not committing crimes?? That is laughable. There has been six meth busts in my northern Idaho neighborhood, and that is just what I'm aware of. I've had a front row seat to the really bizarre behavior these drano heads have and how the meth houses become hangouts for creepy people coming and going or just hanging out at all hours of the night. Then the house gets trashy on the outside. I haven't seen a meth head yet who has respect for someone else's property. And then they get the teenagers involved, then you have forty-year old adults hanging with 16 and 17 years olds...until the teen makes the adult drano head mad, then the teens get busted. Tweakers are scarry people. They are extremely unpredictable. But then again, cops can be also in the heat of catching the bad guy.

     
  • Jill Heine posted at 6:22 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    Jill Heine Posts: 408

    Meth should never be made legal. I agree that a more discrete interdiction would have been wise. Put a tail on him until he delivers his package. As for Marijuana, get with the trend. It's legal now in Washington and approved for pain management in Arizona. I hate the heat here, but loved the cool hikes in the mountains. Make me happy with legalization next time I visit.

     
  • BorneNIdaho posted at 3:06 am on Thu, Feb 7, 2013.

    BorneNIdaho Posts: 142

    Just another reason why the war on drugs causes more problems, than it fixes!

    Yes I do know how bad meth is, and no, I do not and have not ever used it. Yet, if it was not a crime to sell it, would this dangerous and almost deadly high speed chase have happened, no it would not have!

    Good job police for endangering the public on your high speed pursuit with how many of you? Oh wait at least 13 if not more? Does it really take that many plus a dog to arrest a racist man? Is he really a racist, or just another white man with a bald head, like some other white bald man who said something about a black man being black and scary? So instead of letting the druggies kill themselves off, the police put themselves as well as hundreds of the public at danger, pursuing someone over a stupid choice of consuming a drug. The question here is, is it worth the risk of these high speed chases for something that would not have happened if the idiots using meth, were free to do so in there own home, or for that matter in public, if they were not committing any other crime? It is my opinion that the high speed chases and the wasted tax money on these low lifes is not worth it, but than again I also advocate for the right of women to have abortions, so I am out of touch with the majority people who are christian conservatives in this county. Call me crazy, call me what you will, but it is exactly this overreaching power of government that causes more deaths than any other reason. Millions of people have died in the last century because of governments over stepping there boundaries, can't say that about drug dealers or any other criminal.

    and let the ridicule begin, if the press is brave enough to allow this comment?

     
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