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The cost of school safety

Cd'A district to seek extra $1M to protect kids

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Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 12:00 am

COEUR d'ALENE - The Coeur d'Alene School District is planning to ask voters to approve approximately $1 million more on its next levy, so enhanced safety measures can be implemented across schools in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Connecticut.

The additional $1 million would come on the heels of the $12.9 million supplemental levy voters will be asked to vote upon in March, and, if approved, pay for one-time capital designs to make the schools safer.

"It's a movement toward better safety, not perfect safety," said Hazel Bauman, Coeur d'Alene superintendent. "It isn't perfect, but it's a step in the right direction."

The capital improvements could include entry system and technology upgrades, proximity controlled facility access, bullet-proof glass on some windows, fencing, stricter visitor controls and metal detectors and video surveillance.

The school district is also eyeing adding three new school resource officers to its fleet, bringing the total number to eight. The additional officers wouldn't be funded through the additional levy request, rather the school district would absorb the costs. One officer has already been added to Canfield Middle School, but the additional $1 million could pay for gun safes inside the schools only officers can access, along with other equipment for school resource officers.

While the school district sent a letter home to parents this week outlining the plan, the school board will hold a special meeting by Jan. 24 to finalize the language on the levy ballot.

On March 12, it plans to seek a $12.9 million supplemental maintenance and operations levy to replace an expiring two-year supplemental levy voters approved in 2011. The levy could be structured that voters will be asked to vote on replacing that levy with the same amount, followed by another vote on the additional approximately $1 million for safety measures.

Details on the ballot language would have to be worked out before Jan. 25, when it's due, which is why the board must meet by Jan. 24.

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  • Righty-O posted at 10:11 am on Fri, Jan 11, 2013.

    Righty-O Posts: 368

    "It is more a subject of joy [than of regret] that we have so few of the desperate characters which compose modern regular armies. But it proves more forcibly the necessity of obliging every citizen to be a soldier; this was the case with the Greeks and Romans and must be that of every free State. Where there is no oppression there can be no pauper hirelings." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1813.

    "As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives [only] moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks."
    -- Thomas Jefferson, writing to his teenaged nephew.

    Just a few I found on the net.

  • riversharkes posted at 10:05 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.

    riversharkes Posts: 99

    quotes from jefferson and others are great...but most of you forget the quote from someone above the goes like this.."those who live by the sword shall die by the sword"...and remember the pen is mightier than the sword....god is always in the last place you look...your heart.....and i am a proud owner of an sks..great rifle...but it does not have the capacity for a banana clip..

  • carol posted at 10:01 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.

    carol Posts: 466

    Who is going to make sure that all of the volunteers are OK? People with mental health problems & child molesters hide and blend in with general populations. Nobody knows of their problems until after the fact.

  • Cherish posted at 4:36 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    Cherish Posts: 6

    "The capital improvements could include entry system and technology upgrades, proximity controlled facility access, bullet-proof glass on some windows, fencing, stricter visitor controls and metal detectors and video surveillance."

  • Cherish posted at 4:35 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    Cherish Posts: 6

    It does seem like a lot of money, but... the money is also for physical building upgrades for safety, not just people wages.

  • chouli posted at 1:08 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    chouli Posts: 1273

    WHEN do we start looking at mental health issues and making mental health care accessible for everyone ?? I agree with everyone who says, guns don't kill people. (although I do question the need for assault type of weapons)
    Our country needs to invest in the health of our citizens. Instead we turn our heads and look away and vote to build more jails. so much of the homelessness and crime and jails are filled with people who need mental heatlh HELP. our society would be better, our crime less and fewer people in jail...
    When do we start fixing the root causes of these problems instead of reactionaty stupid non-working fixes??

  • hiway90 posted at 11:09 am on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    hiway90 Posts: 61

    I just can't believe we are going to follow the national frenzy of kneejerk responses to something caused by a madman? This is one of the safest areas in the nation, a part of the country not yet ruined by the "liberal agenda" to make everyone dependent on government.
    Guns dont kill people, they are an inanimate object,,,same with spoons dont make you fat, they are an inanimate object. The problem is all the media hype. that makes PEOPLE want to outdo the last tragedy, since they have given up anyway, why commit suicide without taking out someone, and make aname for themselves...THEN commit suicide. Take care of the people here, give them jobs, give them roads, do what you are suppose to do as a government, and quit jumping on the political bandwagon Its very unbecoming of this state..

  • max power posted at 7:57 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    max power Posts: 559

    Hold that thought Mr. Right-O. I'll have to respond to your drivel later. Right-o now-o I'm going to watch a show I tivo'd earlier today called Maury. Today Bonequetta is bringing on the 10th guy that might be the baby daddy for one of her 12 (whose the daddy) offsring. This nubian goddess has tried to find the baby daddy for this child through DNA testing in the past shows without results. Maybe today is the day. Time to get the remote-o...

  • idahoguy posted at 5:49 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    idahoguy Posts: 932

    This will never end with a discussion. It did not in 1776 not did it in 1860. In both cases when those with the guns were pushed to far they went to war. The tea sipping pacifists were found dead in the ditches. I sense this will eventually come down to some form of a revolution. What kind I do not know nor promote. But I do sense gun owners with quality training and practice will be a good part of those left standing.

    You can argue all day long about (someone else) taking guns away from honest folks...but honestly you can not dodge or out run their bullets. So those of you tough big mouthed bravado posters all about taking guns away from honest folks lead the way to our front doors... ha ha ha now that I got to see.

  • bionic man posted at 4:05 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    bionic man Posts: 347

    Get rid of the LCDC, get rid of the Mc Ruin project, right there you have enough money to fund any school needs for quite a few years. Pure and simple, no more new taxes. We are all paying enough and the only benefit is someone getting more money in their pockets on the backs of the taxpayers. Pure and simple....stop all tax and levy increases PERIOD.

  • Righty-O posted at 3:38 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Righty-O Posts: 368

    @riversharkes Im a miserable speller at times. Still doesn't show that you possess any sort of knowledge of your own rights. Feel free to carry no weapon, scoff at people who want "assault rifles" or automatic weapons. One day that "stuck on crazy" guy might save your rear.

    @Idahoguy Agreed. with your premise. Seems every time we have an issue with something our knee jerk reaction is to "Ban it" or "Restrict it" its not too often we try to understand it. Political discourse is carried on by both sides. Its what keeps them alive (Dems and Rep) alike.

  • aayupp posted at 3:16 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    aayupp Posts: 316

    "The capital improvements could include entry system and technology upgrades, proximity controlled facility access, bullet-proof glass on some windows, fencing, stricter visitor controls and metal detectors and video surveillance."

    above righty-o---- these are all expensive upgrades not required in my mind when we have plenty of officials that could guard our schools right now. for 7 hrs /day. they could switch off between their nomal duties of being a traffic cop. What does Guard mean in "National Guard". I think the kids would feel much better seeing a uniformed heavily armed guard protecting their school.

  • IdahoMan posted at 3:09 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    IdahoMan Posts: 100

    We need to have fewer unconstitutional restrictions and less government.

    Every time there is a supposed "problem" (Terror, drugs, shootings), we are all supposed to assume it as some kind of "social issue", give up our liberty and have more government and its employees in our faces.

    Enough. Time to realize that all these "problems" aren't, and that they are pushed/kept alive by the MSM and the politicians so then can constantly consume more power. These "problems" wouldn't even exist were it not for certain people wanting to push an agenda (Ex: Gun control).

    The Coeur d'Alene School District wants $1million more? lol.

  • Righty-O posted at 2:39 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Righty-O Posts: 368

    It the regulations of the current government, you have a profound discourse for guns. Automatic machine guns are not banned to all, a proper person with the proper license can own them.. Read up before you speak.

    Ownership of a fully automatic firearm is permiited in ALL states EXCEPT CA, DE, DC, HI, NY, WA. You must comply with a Federal law in other states, the 1934 National Firearms Act. This requires that a person recieving a full auto firearm undergo a background check, have approval of local law enforcement, and pay a $200 per gun transfer tax. Legal full autos that can be transferred to a private citizen must already have been registered by May 1986- no new full autos can be registerered. Since the supply is finite, prices are VERY high. A LEGAL M16 rifle is about $16,000.

  • Righty-O posted at 2:30 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Righty-O Posts: 368

    Last comment then grill me... Does 1 million bucks seem like way too much for 3 cops? Anyone else know what else is included in the 1 million?

  • Righty-O posted at 2:28 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Righty-O Posts: 368

    @ Max Powers You are obviously not very bright. Your statement simply should say "Max Powers is a racist."

    @Idahoguy Yes, I'm all for getting the retired military and police involved in the security of the children. Teacher shouldn't be required to have or need to take on an armed criminal when they need to worry about educating our children first and foremost. The retired military person's would have the proper training needed to accomplish much more. I try to think about my 3rd grade teacher with a loaded .45 and it sounds nice, but I couldn't see such a lady pulling the trigger if needed. They need to get the kids to a safe place, not have a duel with a criminal. Heck this option creates jobs, security, and a sense of service for our heroes. Many of the things they want to have again once they are out of the corps.

  • riversharkes posted at 2:26 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    riversharkes Posts: 99

    four fathers? no dude forefathers...and your logic says it all..they had no intention of preventing you from owning a cannon....if that is the case my misguided freind then why are automatic machine guns banned?
    riddle me that batman...stuck on crazy

  • Righty-O posted at 2:18 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Righty-O Posts: 368

    @ Riversharkes Wow here's your sign! (says stuck on stupid)... What our four-fathers had intended when they gave us the 2nd Amendment was the ability to fight tyranny and oppression from our govt if that time arose. I'm very sure that they didn't intend to limit the type of guns that our citizens could have [if they had AR-15s at that time so would the people]. Its not like they said that people couldn't own a cannon either. The idea that technology could increase was not lost on these wise men. Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, ect. many where inventors themselves. The idea that anyone (including our govt) has them makes it equally important that the true citizens have them. Hence the 2nd amendment. Your logic is profoundly misguided by the fear that someone will take the live of the innocent. That will happen with or without "assault rifles". Criminals will not follow the law and the government is perfectly capable of its own double standards. The idea is equality for those who choose to protect themselves with guns. If a man with an AR-15 comes to my door, I don't want a shotgun. I want an AR-15. PS they already have "liability insurance" and only a non criminal would carry it. Criminals don't care about the law, hence the name.

  • riversharkes posted at 1:35 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    riversharkes Posts: 99

    did the founding fathers envision a rifle that could shoot 100 rounds in 20 seconds? and would they have wanted anyone to be able to have such a rifle? doubt far as a person with a musket being able to shoot up a school full of children is ridiculous...takes a minute to reload and by then ten people are on top of you.....
    perhaps liability insurance for those who purchase ar15's, sks, and other weapons that have large clip capacity.....
    also, teachers should have a can of wasp spray or bear spray handy instead of all teachers packin' a glock...40 foot range on spray and that will put a person down....

  • Sheeken Hunter posted at 1:12 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Sheeken Hunter Posts: 181

    If there is a legitimate need for the proposed new security measures why were they not planned for in the regular budget previously. Columbine was in 1999. Are there new factors that have arisen locally since the recent tragedy? Are Sandpoint, Post Falls, Lakeland, or any of the Spokane schools proposing similar changes?

  • idaredneck posted at 12:31 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    idaredneck Posts: 82

    Hey I got an idea. Stop wasting money on McEuen Field and use it for school safety.

  • aayupp posted at 10:59 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    aayupp Posts: 316

    i agree with will here- we have cops, national guard, that can sit outside the entrance to every school - lets try this - vote NO on the levy for this reactionary spending!

  • JoeIdaho posted at 10:42 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    I WELCOME the premise of an armed guard or protector in the schools, it will stop any moron who has bad intent.
    And for "truthful", I WISH we would put the NRA in charge of school security. If we did, this bad stuff would NEVER happen again.

    The entire "anti-gun" group is NOTHING MORE than a group of idiots who know nada about guns, but who are actually after people's RIGHTS. They use tragedies like Sandy Hook to further their agendas, shamelessly, and factually.
    11,400 gun deaths last year.
    THREE QUARTERS of them were made by gang activity.
    That's out of what; 300 MILLION people?
    Like I said, it's all just an agenda, and I loved watching Alex Jones skewer Piers Morgan. Piers should leave America, today.

  • idahoguy posted at 10:20 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    idahoguy Posts: 932


    Can you please give an exact and very precise description of what an assault rifle is please. Even the ATF can not do that so they obviously need you knowledge, expertise and help here. I am waiting for this correct all inclusive definition from you Carol...

    Carol please also define the term/word Assault and exactly how any inert item like a chunk of steel and plastic can become an assault weapon anymore or less than a 12" steel and plastic knife stuck between your ribs and through your bleeding heart.

    It took that mentally ill guy in Conn. 20 minutes to kill about 20 people. A black powder single shot rifle could do the same thing in twenty minutes. Yes the kind our forefathers used back in the day (1776and it was an exact match to what the current military had in their hands at that time.

  • max power posted at 9:53 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    max power Posts: 559

    *** The Only Way To Prevent Massacres In Public Places Is To Ban Public Places ***

    A ban on Schools, Cinemas and Malls came into force on midnight Monday in the small town of Bannister, Michigan. What many in this liberal bastion are hailing as a "Brave New World" move others are calling "Just Plain Stupid".

    Despite incurring the wrath of shoppers, movie lovers, school children, parents and store owners Mayor Barry Stemball passed the law into city ordinance late last night.

    "It is ultimately for the safety of our citizens", declared Stemball. "They will thank me, I'm sure, in the months ahead when their families don't fall victim to a deranged psychotic killer armed with an assault rifle who goes crazy in a public place".

    Many freeloading ( Section 8 Housing, Welfare, Foodstamps, Subsidized Child Care, Medicaid, Subsidized Regional Bus Passes) Obama supporters applauded the Mayors actions but expressed concerns about the Welfare & Foodstamp offices's at the mall closing down. "Maybe they can just mail us are free stuff," said Latisha Watusi.

    While Latisha displayed pride in showing off her new "free" Obama phone, many in this small town shook their heads in disbelief that they now had no where to shop, watch movies or educate their kids...

  • carol posted at 9:38 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    carol Posts: 466

    I have not heard of anybody wanting to ban black or any other color of weapon. What is wanted is banning assault weapons, extensive background checks, and large capacity magazines. Don't obfuscate
    the issue by putting out that we are talking about military issued weapons.

  • wheels1 posted at 8:13 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    wheels1 Posts: 431

    This is totally unnecessary and won't improve safety whatsoever.It's a waste of money just like airport security after 911 and the billions spent on the fences along the Mexico/ US border.Fear tactics only ruin life experiences.

  • lola123 posted at 7:06 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    lola123 Posts: 338

    No screen name, ban assault rifles altogether and apply the tax to all other firearms and NRA membership.

  • idahoguy posted at 7:04 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    idahoguy Posts: 932

    No one has used a true military issued assault rifle in any school incident. Civilians are not allowed to have these type weapons without a special permit and even then only a very small selection.

    Black guns are not assault guns. Many can have the plastic parts and stocks (which are there because they are much more weather resistant to deforming and lighter) with wooden counter parts. They also come in pink plastic and many other shades and colors. You have been conditioned to see a "Black" gun as dangerous. Being the fools most people are they believe it.

    The firing rate of ten rounds from a ten round magazine in a semi auto rifle (each bullet fired requires the release of the trigger and then pressure re-applied to fire the next round) is one -two seconds shorter than using two five round magazines. Not that much and old ban limited people to five round magazines for years.

    Sane drug free people realize all the above and more. Sane law abiding people drug free people have yet to shoot these schools up. Mentally nut cases who are later found to have been taking the ever more prescribed mood altering, mind changing drugs being handed out like candy to people have been shooting the schools up. The common denominator here is the insane drug taking people. Guns are their current tool of choice. It could just as well be gas/Styrofoam mixed cocktails in their back pack, poison, knives, single shot saw off shotguns, four black powder revolvers or any number of tools available to carry out there attention craving plans.

    This is really about the people doing these acts and not the tool being used. The people are the true threat and they will not go away if you pass more laws about tool controls. They will be back....

  • straight up posted at 6:55 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    straight up Posts: 945

    How about if Hazel puts public pressure on the mayor to finally end LCDC.

    That way, there is no need for a levy as millions of dollars now earmrked for wealthy developers would return to where they were distibuted before LCDC - to the schools!

  • Screen Name posted at 5:57 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Screen Name Posts: 821

    I say impose a "school safety" tax on the sale of assault rifles to pay for the enhanced security expenses. You want to play - you got to pay.

  • voxpop posted at 5:35 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    The really great thing about we who post on newspaper (?!) websites is that our opinions carry almost no weight. It's a momentary catharsis but little else. For those who think kids, their education, and their safety aren't worth a beer or two should move to those Idaho rural districts where residents couldn't care less about such things. There are more than a few to choose from.

  • truthful1 posted at 5:14 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    truthful1 Posts: 554

    Nope....the NRA needs to guarantee the safety of these kids!

  • Will Penny posted at 4:12 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Will Penny Posts: 270

    Here in North Idaho there is literally an army of retired law enforcement officers. Many of whom would most likely volunteer their time to make our schools safe. There are also many equally responsible citizens who have concealed carry permits who may be willing to do the same.. This is not a 24-7-365 opereation. Only when school s in session. May be an avenue the sheriff, police chiefs and school districts might want to look into.

    And IdahoMan is right, signs that proclaim any area to be gun free is an invitation to tragedy.

  • IdahoMan posted at 1:18 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    IdahoMan Posts: 100

    And what of getting rid of the "Gun Free School Zone" regs?

    A student or faculty member may have their PDW/after-school hunting/range firearm in their vehicle and GFSZs hurt such individuals.

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