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Posted: Monday, November 5, 2012 2:05 pm

I know that you are no longer accepting election letters but I am still fuming over the Reagan Republican ad on page 12A of Sunday's CDA Press. Perhaps you can publish a last minute editorial comment to right the wrong impression the ad is meant to carry.

The implication that the Kootenai County Democrats are supporting candidates for NIC Trustee positions is meant to cast some sort of black cloud over Judy Meyer, Mic Armon and Dean Haagenson and appeal to the partisan leaning of Kootenai County voters.

First of all, Kootenai County Democrats would never consider endorsing in a non-partisan race. On the local Democratic Party web site, five candidates for NIC Trustee positions are highlighted because they attended the Democratic Club forum and responded to questions about the future of the college. These candidates included Gary Coffman, Fritz Wiedenhoff, Judy Meyer, Mic Armon and Dean Haagenson.

Reagan Republican candidates, Paul Mathews and Ron Nilson did not attend the forum or even bother to RSVP. Members of the Democratic Club were not given a chance to find out why the candidates are running and what they have to offer NIC and our community.

Secondly, inserting partisanship into the traditionally non-partisan selection of North Idaho College Trustees is inappropriate and has been a consistent strategy throughout the trustee campaign, forcing incumbents to raise and spend large amounts of money for an essentially volunteer job.

Thirdly, the inference that Democrat is a dirty and pejorative word that will determine the reader's vote is hardly fitting in a community trying to set standards where individuals of any color or creed are treated with respect,

Moreover, how can they use the word Democrat as a way to defame Dean Haagenson, who served as a Republican Representative in the Idaho State House of Representatives from 1983 to 1990? Dean and I ran against each other in 1982 and he won hands down, so I remember clearly that he was and is a Republican. And we served in the same legislature for four years and even cooperated on a few issues of importance to North Idaho. I have great respect for Dean, and I know this ad is not only misleading, but hurtful for someone who has served his party, our county and our state for many years.

These guys shouldn't get away with these wrongful tactics. Can you shed some last minute light? Sincerely,

Mary Lou Reed (Proud to be a Democrat)

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37 comments:

  • inclined posted at 6:07 pm on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    inclined Posts: 681

    vox(voice of the sheeple)
    Relating with oxymoronic, dear. As in: it is oxymoronic to expect gold in a borax mine, and/or an insightful Statist.

     
  • rationaldiscussionplz posted at 3:49 pm on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    rationaldiscussionplz Posts: 266

    The local Republican party has nothing to do with the Kootenai County Reagan Republicans. It is not a sanctioned or supported organization, and its name is no more meaningful than if I created a new group called Lou's Loony Liberals or Lone Wolf's Democrats and started wildly slapping endorsements on random candidates. Sure, their name might become associated with Democrats and Liberals because of me and my group, because we misused the party's name or the ideology's name. The name Kootenai County Reagan Republicans is meaningless as far as political ideology goes, unless it somehow becomes officially sanctioned by the Republican Party, something I just don't see happening after seeing their funding group endorse rights-curtailing county management plans. .

    On the other hand, what is not meaningless is that the official Kootenai County Democrat party has endorsed NIC Trustee candidates on its website in at least the last two elections for those positions. That is meaningful, because a party will only endorse if the candidates generally align with its ideological beliefs, whereas a random group--even if it uses a party name--may endorse anyone, regardless of ideology.

    Now, of course, the Democrats are changing their story (and their website) to rewrite history and say they never made such an endorsement and never would. That, of course, is ridiculous because the evidence is obvious.

    I don't condemn the Democrats for making endorsements in a non-partisan election, not really. I condemn them for doing it and then accusing the Republicans of making these elections partisan, when the Republican Party has done no such thing. I condemn the Democrats tactics, because they're underhanded and hypocritical. They made endorsements, and they should be open and honest about having done that. They should also stop trying to name-call Republicans for making these elections "partisan" when the Republican Party has not made endorsements for non-partisan candidates on its website. The Reagan Republicans have endorsed, but as I already established, the Reagan Republicans name is misleading at best. They're certainly not associated in any official capacity with the Republican Party.

     
  • COG777 posted at 3:13 pm on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    COG777 Posts: 340

    Not both?

     
  • COG777 posted at 3:08 pm on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    COG777 Posts: 340

    This is so silly. Of course everything is partisan even in non-partisan races. We are after all talking about making policy that will have an impact on all of us. Those policies are based on ones belief. I can tell you move-on dot org is urging people to run if it is for dog catcher and especially school board positions. I think the republicans have finally caught up with the democrats in the realization of these non-partisan positions. Do you think it is by chance that most of those positions were held by democrats? Now the democrats are not happy that they may lose their strong hold and policy making authority in non-partisan races.

     
  • lone wolf posted at 1:21 pm on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    lone wolf Posts: 246

    Who are these Reagan Republicans of Kootenai County?
    Published on October 16, 2012, by davec in Political.
    I am going start talking about a group of people who proclaim to call themselves The Reagan Republicans of Kootenai County (Idaho).

    This group of people seem to be going after all of the Public Education Trustee seats, such as School District #271 and North Idaho College. I have seen some very disturbing things being expedited through School District #271 School board meetings lately now that they own the majority of the power on the board.

    On one issue they did not seem to take any comments from some highly educated people who were quite a vocal group of people who asked them to slow and discuss this action they took. They voted party (RR) line. So I wondered. Coeur d’Alene has always had it’s quirky groups come through, but this one seems very angry and is using their “personal” beliefs, political and religious, to make rules and decisions that do not seem to take into account diversity into those decisions.

    Of late, the board sold Persons field. This to the astonishment of me, on why there was little or no public discussion on selling Persons Field .

    These are the same people that helped create the recall Coeur d’Alene demoralization effort. Their premise was that the city council was not listening or giving opportunity to speak. Now their endorsed politicos are railroading things, just like what they cost Coeur d’Alene by making such a socially destructive recall failure. Why? I went to their website and read their Motto:

    The Kootenai County Reagan Republicans are an action-oriented group dedicated to building the Republican party and opposing Liberals and the Democrats.

    This is extremely disturbing. They are flat out saying, as their goal, is to oppose or disagree with anybody not of their party. They are saying they will not deal with another elected official because he or she is a Non-Republican. Do all Republicans in Kootenai County feel this way? Really? I am assuming if they get the majority of the NIC Board of Trustee’s they will keep removing things that do not endorse or propagate their sequestered attitudes?

    I do have more research to do, but right now it looks like there is literally a political Coup going on in Kootenai County. More to come with NIC (North Idaho College) and then our City, State and County Elections next year.

    You can read a lot for your self at their website. http://www.reaganrepublicans.net/ACTION.html Lots of anger and tearing down rather than building up. If I were to categorize them right now, I would say they are basically the Radical Part of the Tea-party.

    This is what created the current RR’s (Reagan Republicans)

    http://www.cdapress.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/article_9d625129-3fb4-5a62-a8d0-e89cfd6f65b5.html

    I think this helped me confirm my belief it was radical Tea-party peoples move to take over the Republican party, at least locally. So, If you are concerned about who they are endorsing this year to further their power consolidation and political will just look for the “R”.

     
  • 3Cheers posted at 12:00 pm on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    3Cheers Posts: 480

    Democrat is a dirty and pejorative word. Included in the Democrat Party Platform for 2012 such treasures as Pro Abortion, Pro Gay Marriage, pro funding for the NEA P*ss Christ ,etc. Democrats idolize such men as Bill Clinton and Bobby Kennedy. Both men are liars and cheats and clearly represent what Democrats hold dear. Democrat female heroes? Why, such gems as Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.
    Democrat values are not my values and I am so proud my parents raised me to understand right from wrong.

     
  • ancientemplar posted at 10:43 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    ancientemplar Posts: 1283

    No Mary, he'll defer to private enterprise prerogative.

     
  • ancientemplar posted at 10:41 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    ancientemplar Posts: 1283

    Born in Booners ..............and hopefully still living there.

     
  • ancientemplar posted at 10:37 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    ancientemplar Posts: 1283

    Can't say that I am.

     
  • Mary Souza posted at 9:44 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Mary Souza Posts: 813

    Perhaps Editor Mike Patrick can explain these two issues to us?

     
  • Mary Souza posted at 9:42 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Mary Souza Posts: 813

    I will try this comment again, since my first one was lost or deleted.

    The CdA Press has a deadline for political letters but they made an exception for Mary Lou Reed? And her letter not only appears online, it is in the print edition of today's paper--in an article, not the letter section. That's very special treatment.

    The Press also broke another rule for the Streamline Kootenai County group, the people who want to install an unelected County Manager and take away the public's right to vote for Assessor, Treasurer, Coroner and Clerk. I've always been told that the CdA Press, because they are the official newspaper of record, cannot give special deals or donations to political groups, candidates or issues. But they did for the Streamline group! Their Oct. 30th Sunshine Report shows an "in-kind" donation of $1300 from the CdA Press for newspaper advertising. You can see the report for yourself in my newsletter here: http://opencda.com/?p=12295#more-12295

     
  • Mary Souza posted at 9:32 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Mary Souza Posts: 813

    So the CdA Press has a deadline for political letters, but makes an exception for Mary Lou Reed? Her letter not only appeared online, but it was in an article--not the letter section--of this morning's Press. Hmmm, that's certainly special treatment.

    The Press also broke their rules for the Streamline Kootenai County group, the people that want to install an unelected County Manager and take away the public's right to vote on Assessor, Treasurer, Coroner and Clerk. I've always been told that the Press, because it is the official newspaper of record, cannot give advertising discounts or donations to political groups / candidates / issues. But they did for the Streamline group! The Oct. 30th Sunshine Report for this group shows an "in-kind" donation of $1300. in newspaper advertising. I have never heard of them doing that for anyone else. You can see the Sunshine Report for yourself in my newsletter here: http://opencda.com/?p=12295#more-12295

     
  • Jeff Ward posted at 8:49 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Jeff Ward Posts: 6

    This ad was a simple straightforward list of those issues and candidates supported by two groups: the Kootenai County Reagan Republicans and the Kootenai County Democratic Party. It is the same thing non-partisan voter information organizations and websites do. (like www.votesmart.com)

    So how do such simple lists imply "Democrat is a dirty and pejorative word?" How does listing a candidate's posted and public endorsement by a political organization "defame" anyone? How can repeating in a print ad what was publicly posted on an organization's website be categorized as "wrongful tactics?" How is paying for an ad that gives the Democrats equal time evidence of "casting a black cloud."

    This attack is wrongheaded, false and unfair. Especially onerous is the nasty implication that the Reagan Republicans' ad is "hardly fitting in a community trying to set standards where individuals of any color or creed are treated with respect." The insinuation and implication of racial or religious intolerance is disgusting and tarnishes any creditability of the author. Playing the "race card" when this ad and this election have absolutely nothing to do with race is truly despicable.

    Jeff Ward, Treasurer, Reagan Republicans Victory Fund.

     
  • Born in Bonners posted at 8:33 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Born in Bonners Posts: 75

    Hopefully JoeIdaho will go the way of the Dodo bird once Obama gets re-elected. Some where where they get his rantings about Dimtards and libocrats and all those other places where you can make up words with no meaning.

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 7:36 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 734

    Voter guide:

    NIC Trustee
    Paul Matthews
    Todd M. Banducci
    Ron Nilson

    Restructure of County government
    --- In favor of retaining the present form of county government --

    Idaho state positions (the ballot varies by district)
    Steve Vick
    Vito Barbieri
    Bob Nonini
    Ron Mendive
    Frank Henderson
    Luke Malek
    Kathleen Sims
    Ed Morse
    Cindy Agidius
    Kenneth B. De Vries
    Gresham Bouma

    Commissioner
    First District---- Jack Schroeder (Write-In)
    Third District -----Gordon Ormesher, Jr. (Write-In)

    Sheriff
    Bob Foster (IND)

    Idaho state proposals
    S.J.R. 102 –- YES (retains local control)
    H.J.R. 2aa -- YES (creates Idaho constitutional right to hunt & fish)
    Referendum 1 -- YES
    Referendum 2 -- YES
    Referendum 3 -- YES

    US Congress
    Raul R. Labrador

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 7:34 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 734

    Nathan, methinks you have me confused. Please reread White Pine’s post. I was the target of the implied pejorative, not the author.

    I am the thing democrats dread, a Conservative activist armed with the truth.

    Speaking of truth, since we now know the dems did actively endorse their trustee candidates and that Reed did or should have known that, we can either add “liar” or “grossly ignorant” to her list of “accomplishments”.

     
  • capnbutch posted at 7:22 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    capnbutch Posts: 729

    It is not often that the Coeur d'Alene Press prints such a hate-filled letter!

    It is time to rebuild friendships. We need to discover why there is such blind, unreasoning hatred for people who are not Democrats.

     
  • nathanprower posted at 6:46 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    nathanprower Posts: 15

    To regan....The first thing i wish to say is that being a Democrat represents Abortion, Federal aid programs, Bigger Government, Smaller national defense, same sex marriage, higher taxes.....I will STOP here. Idaho citizens DO NOT represent these things. I, nor any other writers here, are going to change your thinking. This is not a problem to any of us. BUT......you are foolish defending a losing argument. Brains that have "common sense" are sorely lacking in ALL Democrats. You could be the "poster child" for them. Have a great day and ENJOY election.

     
  • inclined posted at 1:11 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    inclined Posts: 681

    I can't decide if it's your handle that reflects more: Pinus Strobus, or the The white pine weevil Pissodes strobi. Strange how that works. Your logic is peepee. Should B Regan be from CA, he can't possibly be an outstanding public servant?

    Mary Lou may have a "history", but leadership? And this intelligence you talk about-- like her son
    Bruce, He attended Princeton University, graduating in 1982, and earned a master's degree in English Literature from Oxford University as a Rhodes Scholar, and ended up Chief of Staff to U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and a former CEO of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC). Oh, and that same strain of intelligence had him paired up with and chief speechwriter for Tennessee Senator Al Gore: two infamous funny men. This is what mommy produced.

     
  • estatetracker posted at 10:21 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    estatetracker Posts: 369

    @WhitePine - No I am not impressed. Just because someone is a former State Senator, the cash behind a somewhat inneffective little turnstile advocacy group, or a face on yet another Board--it does not answer what she has done--all you described are "jobs" she held.

    Sorry to be so pointed, but I think when such high praise is given, What someone has really done should be detailed versus a list of jobs. Did she sponsor any legislation while a Senator, did she draft the Mission for Kootenai Environment Alliance? What did she do for the "Human Rights Board"?

    Anyone?

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 9:53 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    And whitepine; WHY would anyone be proud that they had ANYTHING to do with KEA OR the "Humans rights board"? Both IDIOT organizations.

     
  • JoeIdaho posted at 9:52 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    JoeIdaho Posts: 2841

    One of my favorite tings about North Idaho is watching the Dimocrabs come by in the 4th of July parade, when everybody goes silent, just like at a funeral.....

     
  • WhitePine posted at 8:49 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    WhitePine Posts: 153

    Former State Senator, a founder of the Kootenai Environmental Alliance,a founder of the Human Rights Board, a writer, winner of numerous awards. Impressed yet?

     
  • estatetracker posted at 7:59 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    estatetracker Posts: 369

    I hear time and time again how great Mary Lou Reed is. Wondering if anyone can give a few examples?

     
  • WhitePine posted at 6:35 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    WhitePine Posts: 153

    @Brent Regan. I am assuming that you are not a native. Californian maybe? Mary Lou Reed is an outstanding public servant. When you have her history of leadership, then perhaps we will listen to you. Until then, I will listen to the intelligent insights from a true Idaho public servant.

     
  • rationaldiscussionplz posted at 6:35 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    rationaldiscussionplz Posts: 266

    Now, see there's a difference between us. I rarely vote for Democrats, because of their habit of lying. I'd rather have someone give me the truth--even if it is in an abrasive way that could be considered by some to be "vile."

     
  • estatetracker posted at 6:19 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    estatetracker Posts: 369

    "On the wall it is written, they want war--but he who wrote it has already fallen" (Albert Camus)

    Readers should wonder why Mary Lou's weak "defense" was published--even after the Press has made it clear that they are not accepting more political endorsement-like editorials.

    Sorry Mary Lou, you got used again.

     
  • CaiusCosades posted at 6:10 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    CaiusCosades Posts: 380

    I won't vote republican because of the vile way republicans act and speak.

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 6:06 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 734

    "average"
    "forward"
    "worker"

    mister d, just say you are a democrat. Same message, fewer words.

     
  • mister d posted at 5:42 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    mister d Posts: 1531

    I would never vote for someone that I knew was affiliated with the RR's. Thyey are a fringe group that speaks loud but hasn't seemed too responsible to the community needs. I do not support their view and am voting for candidates that seem to want to move Idaho forward and supports the average worker.

     
  • voxpop posted at 4:55 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    Sort of unique
    Somewhat pregnant
    Almost exactly
    Clearly misunderstood
    Nonpartisan election

     
  • milburnschmidt posted at 4:49 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    milburnschmidt Posts: 1160

    Of all the tears I have seen in my long life the democratics crocodile tears are the most pathetic. For Mary Lou to talk about treating others with respect after her party and candidates from the president down insult everyone on a hour by hour basis dailey is a bit of malarkey that is breathtaking in his hutzpah. Yes Republicans also dermonize but they are pikers compared to the hard core left that runs the Democratic party. Milburn proud to be a independent and not affiliated with the mud wrestlers of either party.

     
  • Jeff Ward posted at 4:44 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Jeff Ward Posts: 6

    Ms. Reed,

    The premise of you letter is false. The Kootenai Democrat Party website posted endorsements of Judy Meyer, Mic Armon and Dean Haagenson in mid October. Please see the screen shot linked. (http://www.reaganrepublicans.net/DemocratNIC.html )

    The KCRR ad was based on the information provided by Democrat website. We provided the side by side endorsements as a public service to demonstrate the differences in the partisan groups supporting the various candidates and issues. As a proud Democrat you should applaud the KCRR advertising the Democrat endorsements on you behalf.

    Jeff Ward, Treasurer Reagan Republicans Victory Fund

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 4:43 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 734

    Busted!

     
  • Brent Regan posted at 4:07 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Brent Regan Posts: 734

    As always, should you or any of your Trustee Force be identified as democrats, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your affiliations. This article will self-destruct in five seconds.

     
  • rationaldiscussionplz posted at 4:00 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    rationaldiscussionplz Posts: 266

    "First of all, Kootenai County Democrats would never consider endorsing in a non-partisan race."
    "inserting partisanship into the traditionally non-partisan selection of North Idaho College Trustees is inappropriate"

    Really? The Democrats didn't make an endorsement in a non-partisan race?

    http://www.freeimagehosting.net/xm2xy

    Take a look and say it again, please.

    "First of all, Kootenai County Democrats would never consider endorsing in a non-partisan race."
    "inserting partisanship into the traditionally non-partisan selection of North Idaho College Trustees is inappropriate"

    Keep repeating the lie and maybe someone will believe it, but it sure won't be me.

    The page above appeared that way for a couple of months, and was only changed to not be an endorsement in the last few days. Democrats enjoy trying to re-write history. They endorsed, and now they're trying to cover for themselves. This isn't the first time either. The Democrats have been endorsing NIC Trustee candidates for years. They supported Christie Wood and Ken Howard in the 2010 trustee race.

     
  • ancientemplar posted at 3:52 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    ancientemplar Posts: 1283

    I, for one, would check the voter registrations to see if these candidates are registered as to party affiliation.
    I've never known the NIC election to be non partisan.

     
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