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Cats are everywhere

Feral, stray feline population out of control, says KHS director

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Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:00 am

COEUR d'ALENE - Dori Peck says there are two words to describe the cat and kitten epidemic in Kootenai County.

One is crazy.

The other is overwhelming.

And it's getting worse, said the executive director of the Kootenai Humane Society. Whether ferals or strays, they're everywhere.

"We have to do something," Peck said Monday. "We have literally litters of kittens coming in."

She said the KHS shelter at the end of Ramsey Road is at capacity, with around 100 cats and kittens. There's a 45-day waiting list to drop off a feline. Around 15 calls a day come in from folks desperate to get rid of one, two or an entire litter.

Told there's no room, some are just leaving cats outside the shelter gates. Or, they're dumping them in neighborhoods, in the wild, in parks. Wherever.

It is the worst Peck has seen this situation.

"We need to get this under control," Peck said. "This is going to keep getting worse if we didn't do something. They're breeding constantly, everywhere."

Lynne Doria, resident and cat activist, agreed feral and strays are more than abundant in Kootenai County. One woman, she said, needed help with more than 10 kittens and eight adults cats. Another has been trying to catch cats and take them to KHS, but she uses a walker. She said the solution is spay and neutering, but many cat owners don't do that.

The local Second Chance pet rescue recently paid to fix 38 cats, she said, but like KHS, is running out of money to continue with the program.

Doria herself feeds strays - including a colony of about 20 just off Government Way - and has spent more than $1,000 to have cats fixed.

"There are cats roaming everywhere," she said. "It's the worst I've seen in the three years I've been feeding them."

Some believe difficult economic times are partially to blame. Folks can't afford vet care, so cats don't get fixed. Kittens are given away and the problem multiplies.

"It's a never-ending thing and it's expensive," Doria said.

Ideally, people would spay or neuter a cat before offering it to anyone who wants it, but that doesn't happen.

Part of the problem, too, is that most cats aren't licensed in Kootenai County, and animal control doesn't pick them up.

They're what she called "free roaming," whereas in Spokane they are required to be licensed and microchipped.

"There's not checks and balance on them here," she said.

According to the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, only 10 percent of the animals received by shelters have been spayed or neutered.

ASPCA also estimated there may be more than 50 million homeless cats in the U.S.

KHS has a no-kill policy, but others don't.

According to the Humane Society of the United States, four million cats and dogs - about one every eight seconds - are put down in U.S. shelters each year.

Doria said people can help locally by trapping cats, paying to have them fixed, then releasing them.

But that can be difficult, time consuming and expensive.

"It's not just 'Grab that cat and go get it fixed,'" she said.

KHS offers the spay or neuter procedure for about $35 to $40, and vaccines are another $20. Feral cats will be fixed for $10, but ferals can be dangerous, so be careful when trying to trap them.

For those who have cats but can't afford to have them fixed, Peck said they'll work out something. KHS offers traps to folks for free, with a $50 deposit.

"We don't want to turn people away," she said. "We try to help as much as we can."

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  • max power posted at 9:12 am on Fri, Sep 28, 2012.

    max power Posts: 559

    God gave man dominion over the animals. How are we doing so far?

  • merlgerl posted at 11:48 pm on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    merlgerl Posts: 202

    You need to read it again, Reality. Title 25 is "animals". Chapter 35 is "animal care". 25-3514 (6) It begins "The killing of ANY animal." It's shoot to kill, you can get in trouble for leaving animals wounded and suffering. But killing as humanely possible is NOT illegal. I like cats as much as the next person. But there's a reason they're called companion animals. Without humans cats, little dogs, even chickens and cows would not survive for long. So, again I say It's not the animals fault it's man. And it's sad the animals pay the price for negligent pet owners but that's they way it is.

  • Woodsman001 posted at 7:27 pm on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Woodsman001 Posts: 14

    Your post only goes to prove just how psychotic and delusional that you invasive species cat advocates truly are. Everything you posted only proves that merlgerl is 100% correct. As am I. As is the Sheriff who told me to shoot all the cats on my land and that it is perfectly legal to do so. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

    There is absolutely NOTHING malicious in intent to rid one's land of a highly destructive, deadly disease infested, man-made invasive species cats It is either the cats must die or all the native wildlife dies from cats' behavior and diseases. Native wildlife wins over ANY invasive species -- any day, any time, anywhere.

    Destroying cats is NOT hating cats nor a fear of cats.

    Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don't even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife that have zero respect for life. They don't even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons. etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don't even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.

    If people DO hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You've done so much to make people care about cats, haven't you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it.

    In summation: THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.

    You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat's grave.

  • Reality posted at 6:05 pm on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Reality Posts: 29

    I say again, you are wrong. My cats are all indoors, sorry to disappoint your sick, twisted mind. Not a vegan get over yourself. Perhaps YOU need to read what Idaho LAW states. Cats are considered a companion animal. Pay close attention to the INTENTIONAL or MALICIOUS infliction of pain, physical suffering, injury or death. Gee, exactly what you are bragging about. How about maliciously kill, which is exactly what you are bragging about doing.

    Merigeri, the chapter you quoted gives you the right to kill dogs gong after livestock.

    25-3502. Definitions. The following words and terms, when used in this chapter, shall have the following meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise:
    (1) "Abandon" means to completely forsake and desert an animal previously under the custody or possession of a person without making reasonable arrangements for its proper care, sustenance and shelter.
    (2) "Animal" means any vertebrate member of the animal kingdom, except man.
    (3) "Animal care and control agency" means any agency incorporated under the laws of this state to which a county or municipality has conferred authority to exercise the powers and duties set forth in this chapter based upon the agency's ability to fulfill the purposes of this chapter.
    (4) "Companion animal" means those animals including, but not limited to, domestic dogs, domestic cats, rabbits, companion birds, and other animals commonly kept as pets.
    (5) "Cruel" or "cruelty" shall mean any or all of the following:
    (a) The intentional and malicious infliction of pain, physical suffering, injury or death upon an animal;
    (b) To maliciously kill, maim, wound, overdrive, overload, drive when overloaded, overwork, torture, torment, deprive of necessary sustenance, drink or shelter, cruelly beat, mutilate or cruelly kill an animal;
    (c) To subject an animal to needless suffering, inflict unnecessary cruelty, drive, ride or otherwise use an animal when same is unfit;
    (d) To abandon an animal;
    (e) To negligently confine an animal in unsanitary conditions or to negligently house an animal in inadequate facilities; to negligently fail to provide sustenance, water or shelter to an animal.
    (6) "Department" means the Idaho state department of agriculture.
    (7) "Department investigator" means a person employed by, or approved by, the Idaho state department of agriculture, division of animal industries, to determine whether there has been a violation of this chapter.
    (8) "Division" means the division of animal industries of the Idaho state department of agriculture.
    (9) "Custodian" means any person who keeps or harbors an animal, has an animal in his care or acts as caretaker of an animal.
    (10) "Malicious" or "maliciously" means the intentional doing of a wrongful act without just cause or excuse, with an intent to inflict an injury or death.
    (11) "Owner" means any person who has a right of property in an animal.
    (12) "Person" means any individual, firm, corporation, partnership, other business unit, society, association or other legal entity, any public or private institution, the state of Idaho, or any municipal corporation or political subdivision of the state.
    (13) "Pound" means a place enclosed by public authority for the detention of stray animals.
    (14) "Production animal" means, for purposes of this chapter:
    (a) The following animals if owned for the express purpose of producing food or fiber, or other commercial activity, in furtherance of the production of food or fiber, or other commercial activity, or to be sold for the use by another for such purpose: cattle, sheep, goats, swine, poultry, ratites, equines, domestic cervidae, camelidae, and guard and stock dogs; and
    (b) Furbearing animals kept for the purpose of commercial fur production.

  • Woodsman001 posted at 3:55 pm on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Woodsman001 Posts: 14

    The same thing he told me 2 years ago is just as valid as it is today. My land has been 100% cat-free for over 2 years now. Shoot and bury every last one and there's none there to attract more. Cats attract cats. If you want more around, let even one survive where you live. Should even ONE cat ever step paw on my land ever again? Shoot on sight A.S.A.P. or I'll be a**-deep in cats again in no time, with them destroying all my wildlife again and spreading their deadly diseases again. Even ONE live invasive species cat on a person's property is one too many.

    Too bad that you know NOTHING about laws regarding shooting invasive species vermin -- like YOUR CATS. Go ahead, let yours roam free. Then find out the hard way that there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that you can do about it when your more responsible and respectable neighbors shoot them dead for you.

    And if by rare chance you have some highly stupid local laws that do make it illegal locally? Then there's always the SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs that are exploding in popularity worldwide. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; and Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Both methods are 100% legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws nor policies were violated if it never happened! Aren't you glad that your responsible and respectful neighbors, who might read, this now know how to deal with your piece-of-sh** vermin cats should you be so criminally irresponsible to let them roam free. :-)

    You might also enjoy knowing ...

    If you advocate for cats as rodent-control on farms and ranches you've already doomed them to being destroyed by drowning or shooting when it becomes a financial liability more than any asset. Ranchers and farmers worldwide are fully aware that cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasite can cause the very same birth defects (hydrocephaly and microcephaly), still-births, and miscarriages in their livestock and important wildlife as it can in pregnant women. Consequently, this is also how this cats' brain-parasite gets into your meats and onto your dinner-tables, from herbivores ingesting this cat-parasites' oocysts in the soils, transferred to the plants and grains that they eat. Not even washing your hands in bleach will destroy this parasites' oocysts if you have contracted it from your garden or yard that a cat has defecated in.

    This is why any cats are ROUTINELY destroyed around gestating livestock and wildlife-management areas in the most efficient, humane, and least-expensive method available. Common rural practice everywhere. The risk of financial loss from dead livestock and important native wildlife from an invasive-species cat is far too great to do otherwise. This cats' parasite is now even killing off rare marine-mammals along all coastal regions from run-off containing this cat-parasites' oocysts.

    The next time you bite into that whole-grain veggie-muffin or McBurger, you need to just envision biting down on a shot-dead or drowned kitten or cat. For that's precisely how that food supply got to your mouth -- whether you want to face up to it or not. It's not going to change reality no matter how much you twist your mind away from the truth of your world.

    If you want to blame someone for the drowning and shooting of cats, you need to prosecute yourself -- every time you eat.

  • merlgerl posted at 3:53 pm on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    merlgerl Posts: 202

    Title 25 chapter 35- Construed not to interfere with normal or legal practice,
    6) The killing of any animal, by any person at any time, which may be found outside of the owned or rented property of the owner or custodian of such animal and which is found injuring or posing a threat to any person, farm animal or property.

  • Reality posted at 1:48 pm on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Reality Posts: 29

    I'm not sure how many years ago you were told by the "SHERIFF" that what you are doing is legal, but you are wrong.

  • Woodsman001 posted at 9:38 am on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Woodsman001 Posts: 14

    Due to all the heinous and deadly diseases that cats carry and spread today, it would be wrong to advise they be used for anything in this day and age (even in jest). The risk to anyone dressing them for even the use of their furs today (as they were commonly used in the past) could be deadly to the people involved.

    These are just the diseases they've been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Plague, Rabies, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasma. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Sarcosporidiosis, Flea-borne Typhus, and Tularemia can now also be added to that list.

    A FEW examples.

    Cat-Transmitted PLAGUE:

    (Totally disproving that oft-spewed myth that cats in Europe could have prevented the plague. No rats nor fleas even required. Cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)


    Flea-borne Typhus:

    Hookworm -- ruined Miami Businesses:

    Cats' most insidious disease of all, their Toxoplasma gondii parasite they spread through their feces into all other animals. This is how humans get it in their dinner-meats, cats roaming around stockyards and farms. This is why cats are routinely destroyed around gestating livestock or important wildlife by shooting or drowning them. So those animals won't suffer from the same things that can happen to the unborn fetus of any pregnant woman. (Miscarriages, still-births, hydrocephaly, and microcephaly.) It can kill you at any time during your life once you've been infected. It becomes a permanent lifetime parasite in your mind, killing you when your immune system becomes compromised. It can last over a year in any soils or waters and not even washing your hands or garden vegetables in bleach will destroy the oocysts. Contrary to cat-lovers' self-deceptive myths, a cat can become reinfected many times during its life and spread millions of oocysts each time. It's now linked to the cause of autism, schizophrenia, and brain cancers. This parasite is also killing off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from cats' T. gondii oocysts in run-off from the land, the oocysts surviving even in saltwater.

    Its strange life cycle is meant to infect rodents. Any rodents infected with it lose their fear of cats and are attracted to cat urine.

    Cats attract rodents to your home with their whole slew of diseases. If you want rodents in your home keep cats outside of it to attract diseased rodents to your area. I experienced this phenomenon (as have many others), and all rodent problems disappeared after I shot and buried every last cat on my land.

    The time has come to destroy them all whenever spotted away from supervised confinement. There's no other solution. We have nobody but cat-lovers to thank for this health and ecological disaster. Stray-cats, the very source of all feral-cats, need to be euthanized too or you'll never be rid of the feral-cat problem.

    I tried feeding one of the shot-dead cats on my land to the last few starving opossum (almost all the rest of my native wildlife starved to death from cats destroying all their food sources). Those opossum promptly died from some disease in that cat-meat. Alarming -- in that opossum, due to their cooler body temperatures, cannot contract nor transmit many common diseases, not even rabies. They are one of the most disease-free animals in N. America. (Quite an admirable species when you learn about them.) Yet ... something in that cat-meat was able to kill them all. Cats truly are complete and total wastes of flesh. They can't even be used to safely feed wild animals. Leaving any of these invasive-species cats out in nature, alive OR dead, is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death.

    PLEASE dispose of them safely and responsibly. Wear gloves while doing so to protect yourself as well. After the last cat is gone incinerate or bury those gloves too.

  • Woodsman001 posted at 9:31 am on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Woodsman001 Posts: 14


    I had to shoot and bury HUNDREDS of these invasive species, disease infested, pestilent vermin on my own lands to stop them from totally destroying ALL the native wildlife on my lands.

    And guess who told me that this was the ONLY affordable, sensible, humane, and LEGAL method to do so?


    Why do you lousy, pathetic, and delusional cat-lovers lie to others and try to deceive others so much and so often? When you KNOW that your lies and deceptions can be easily revealed to the whole world?

    Shoot to maim is illegal. And rightly so! But shoot to kill is a PERFECTLY LEGAL WAY TO HUMANELY DESTROY ANY FREE-ROAMING CAT. The very same laws and principles that apply to humanly hunting animals also applies to cats. Cats are just another animal. Nothing more. IN FACT, they are a MAN-MADE INVASIVE SPECIES. THEY MUST BE SHOT ON-SIGHT WHENEVER FOUND AWAY FROM SUPERVISED CONFINEMENT.

    Stick that where you keep your head and other deceptive lies -- up your a**.

  • BoxcarBill posted at 12:57 am on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    BoxcarBill Posts: 1074

    Kill a cat go to jail.

  • heatherfeather posted at 11:22 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    heatherfeather Posts: 297

    19 comments and no Chinese restaurant jokes?

  • max power posted at 10:07 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

    max power Posts: 559

    *** President "Empty Chair" Needs To Appoint A Spay & Neuter Czar ***

    Yes we can! Comrade Obama needs to appoint a Kitty Cat Spay & Neuter Czar. Let's not let this crisis go to waste. It's an opportunity to grow government by implementing a new government program and a giant bloated government bureaucracy to run it. Put the costs of the program onto the 16 trillion dollar national credit card. Let's not waste this opportunity to not only grow government but to raise taxes to pay for it. Call your libtard legislative representive today! They can be reached at 1-800-LIB-TARD. Operators are standing by...

  • haydenmom posted at 6:02 am on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.

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    Similarly, our home in the Davis Park area is literally surrounded by feral cats. We were in disbelief following a call to Animal Control because a seriously injured cat had parked itself in a tree outside our kitchen window. After observing the cat, the responding officer told my husband that the cat wasn't close enough to death's door to be a problem. Following my husband's angry response to this analysis, the officer decided to take the cat. Several days later, this same cat was in front of our home again. Apparently, the humane society has the injured animal seen by a vet (possibly?) and thoughtfully returns it to the area from where it was retrieved. The wild bird population is being decimated and it is saddening to see the number of cats outside our windows every day. I don't believe we could rent enough traps from the humane society to ever put a dent in the population in surrounding our home. Any ideas?

  • BoxcarBill posted at 10:19 pm on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    BoxcarBill Posts: 1074

    We need some lethal cat to human disease to cull the herd. (not thinking of the cats)

  • merlgerl posted at 10:09 pm on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    merlgerl Posts: 202

    My neighbor's yard and home is a gross, smelly mess. That's ok cuz she's never home. But luckily she leaves a window open so her 3 intact females, their kittens and every other cat can go in and out. I've been trying for a year to get animal control to help. When they finally cited her for too many animals the prosecutor and judge dismissed it. I continue to live next door to the smell and fleas. My flower beds and pots are a cat toilet. The worst is seeing the emaciated feral kittens. And there's more on the way. It's a people problem not an animal problem.

  • Woodsman001 posted at 9:04 pm on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    Woodsman001 Posts: 14

    The law in the USA is that it is perfectly legal to destroy any animal, someone's pet or not, that is threatening the health, well-being, and safety of yourself, your family, your animals, or even your property. Also true even in most densely populated cities, firearms laws permitting, if not then 700-1200fps air-rifles are commonly used. The only animals exempt from you taking immediate action, legally, are those listed on endangered or threatened species lists, and any bird species under protection of MBTA (the Migratory Bird Treaty Act). Even then variances can be given should there be sufficient problem but this requires further study by authorities. Since cats are listed in the TOP 40 WORST invasive species of the world in the "Global Invasive Species Database" ( ), this means they have no protection whatsoever from being shot on sight, they are not on any protected species list anywhere in the world. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. And if your area enforces and obeys invasive species laws -- as they should -- then it is against the law to NOT destroy any cat on sight, someone's pet or not. It is your civic and moral responsibility to destroy any invasive species that is found away from supervised confinement and roaming freely in a non-native habitat.

    Shoot to maim is punishable under the laws that define animal-cruelty (these are the ONLY cases that cat-lovers cite to try to manipulate and scare everyone from shooting their only favorite animal). But shoot to kill is a perfectly legal way to humanely destroy an animal. The same laws and principles that apply to methods of humanely hunting animals also applies to cats. Unlike cat-lovers' psychotic beliefs, the reality is that a cat is just another animal. It's NOT their baby, their child, their offspring. Even if they do view their cats that way, letting them roam free is no less criminally irresponsible than them telling their child to go play in the freeway and then blaming the cars for their child's death. If they let their cat roam free, NO MATTER HOW IT DIES, that is THEIR fault and they can be charged with all laws that clearly define animal-neglect, animal-abandonment, and animal-endangerment. Not to mention being in direct violation of all international invasive species laws in existence.

    In fact, here's a publication from a study done by the University of Nebraska on the best ways to HUMANELY deal with a feral-cat problem wherever you live. This documentation INCLUDES the best firearms, ammo, and air-rifles required to HUMANELY destroy cats.

    Besides, what difference does it make if the cat gets shot or ran over by a car, attacked by another cat or animal, drowned, or poisoned by plants animals or chemicals (inexpensive 1-adult-strength generic acetaminophen pain-relievers gaining in popularity, for being so species specific). The result is the same. The cause is the same -- the fault of the criminally irresponsible pet-owner that let their invasive species pet roam free. They've already proved that their animal is 100% expendable. You can either destroy their cat for them humanely, or let their lack of care cause it to inevitably die inhumanely. They don't care one bit how their cat might cruelly suffer to death if they let it roam free. Humanely destroy their cat for them before that can happen. A well aimed bullet is the MOST humane death that ANY stray or feral cat can ever look forward to. Any other death that they WILL eventually face is all inhumanely downhill from there.

  • Woodsman001 posted at 9:03 pm on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    Woodsman001 Posts: 14

    Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem. If cats are required to be licensed then cat-lovers just stop putting collars on their cats, as they did by me. And they won't even bother getting them micro-chipped, especially not that They want absolutely nothing that can hold them legally responsible, liable, and accountable for the actions of their cats. It's why many of them even keep cats in the first place. We're not talking about the topmost responsible citizens of the world, you know. They don't want that responsibility of what their cat has done coming back on them. If they had even one iota of a sense of responsibility and respect for all other lives on this planet we wouldn't even be having these discussions.

    On the other hand, I found something that DOES work, and works well, and works fast (well, relative to the years it takes trying to reason with deceitful and lying cat-lovers that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING). Where I live cat-lovers have learned that _ALL_ cats, stray and feral, collared or not, ear-tipped or not (because TNR con-artist liars now just clip cats' ears only without sterilizing or vaccinating them, to protect their hoarded cats from being trapped and euthanized), _ALL_ their cats are humanely shot on sight and buried whenever found away from supervised confinement.

    The ONLY thing that works is destroying any of their cats found outdoors on your property. They either learn to stop getting more cats that die under the wheels of cars or from animal attacks, or they finally learn how to be a responsible pet owner, respectful neighbor, and learn to keep their invasive species animal under confined supervision, as it should be. Win win win all around. You can either destroy their cat for them humanely, or let their lack of concern for their cat cause it to die inhumanely. Your choice. By destroying their cat for them humanely you are showing them that you care more about their cat than even they do. A bullet is by far the most humane death that any free-roaming cat will ever meet. Anything else is all inhumanely downhill from there. Their only other options are being hit by cars, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, disease and parasites, freezing to death, baking to death, etc.

    You can't train a cat to stay home but I found that, in time, you CAN train a cat-owner into being a responsible pet-owner and a respectable neighbor. Most of them are so phenomenally stupid, disrespectful, and criminally irresponsible though that you have to make at least 12-15 of their cats permanently disappear before they even start to figure out what they've been doing wrong all during their sorry, useless, and pathetic lives.

    If you live in an area where its not legal to use firearms to destroy any animal that is threatening the health and safety of you, your family, your animals, or property (as it *IS* legal in most every area of the nation -- shoot to maim is animal cruelty but shoot to kill is a perfectly legal way to destroy any nuisance animal on your own property); then check into laws regarding air-rifles. Ones with ballistics speeds of 700-1200 fps and using pointed vermin-pellets are often advised for use on vermin in no-firearms zones. Many of the newer ones even come with their own sound-suppressor designs built-in, being specifically designed for shooting vermin cats in urban areas, the demand is that great. Failing that, then there's always the SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs that are exploding in popularity worldwide. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; or Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Both methods are legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws were violated if it never happened! (In cases where cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic 1-adult-strength acetaminophen (overseas a.k.a. paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species specific vermin poison. But you really need to retrieve and dispose of that carcass safely so that native wildlife won't die from the many deadly diseases cats spread even after their death.)

    Good luck!

  • IAMWOMAN posted at 6:59 pm on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    IAMWOMAN Posts: 56

    I have 4 cats and 2 dogs, They are all fixed. Vets do charge way to much for their procedures. Yes, my vet has a much better standard of living than I do. Oh well. I love my fur people and totally believe in spay and neuter. In fact, I am spayed too! :-) Hurray for zero population growth.

  • CaiusCosades posted at 6:58 pm on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    CaiusCosades Posts: 380

    I was going to leave a comment about this article but I guess you could say a cat got my tongue.

  • northidahogirl posted at 11:31 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    northidahogirl Posts: 29

    First of all, I love cats but we do not have one since first of all, I believe if you have a pet it should stay in YOUR house and yard! We get so sick up cleaning up dog poo in our front yard (we don't have a dog, either!), having our house "sprayed" by the local toms and having all the neighborhood cats use OUR yard as their potty box! A year ago my husband hauled off 4 wheel barrow loads of cat poo from under our travel trailer! This year we parked it on a tarp! Hehe!
    If you want a pet(s) keep them home. Living in the country is different but in town this needs to be controlled. I cannot have a garden due to the cats digging it up. This year I did container gardening and put down bark around the guessed it!! Our friendly neighborhood felines used it for their potty!! Have a responsible...neuter, spay and, for crying out loud, keep it HOME! If you can't afford to have it fixed and feed it then pay the price and have it put to sleep or give it to someone who can afford to care for it. I'm tired of all the excuses and get extremely frustrated with people on welfare/food stamps having 2 or 3 dogs and numerous cats which they expect us to help them care for...I have to work to pay my bills and nobody helps out!!

  • concerned2 posted at 11:18 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    concerned2 Posts: 9

    I can't believe some of the comments I am seeing. I never cared for cats either until one was on my doorstep and I decided to take it in. Ever since I have loved cats. You have to have had one to know how loving they really are. Alot of them are not treated properly so therefore people cannot get close to them. The cat population problem is actually the owners problems, they need to be more responsible and get them fixed as they all like to roam unless kept indoors. There needs to just be a law that a cat has to be fixed to be adopted or even given away and if that would go into effect for even a couple years it would help the issue. Cats can have several litter a year. I have trapped a few wild ones and released them also. There are places to get the traps loaned to you and there are cheaper alternatives for spay and neuter but yes the vets could all pitch in and help the community on this issue.

  • Betrayer of Hope posted at 10:07 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    Betrayer of Hope Posts: 113

    Just like their annual "Howling Mad" article about wolves. Seen that one (title included) a few times.

  • OALA posted at 9:54 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    OALA Posts: 6

    Seems to me that the press decided it was time for their annual "too many cats" article. I also remember reading 3-4 years ago that the shelter had over 200 cats and a waiting list that was over 6 months. This sounds like a huge improvement to that.
    At opinionated: there are other local organizations that may be able to help you with that stray dog. If you call enough of the vet clinics, I guarantee you can get some guidance on assistance programs.

  • opinionatedB posted at 9:50 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    opinionatedB Posts: 76

    Furthermore, if they fixed a cat and offered it for free, I would take one, feed it and love it!!! But they wouldnt make any money doing stuff like that!!! I took in my stray dog 3 years ago and have fed him and loved him, but I just don't have the spare cash to get him fixed. I would really love a cat, but can't have one for that reason. I wasnt thinking when I got the dog, but now its too late. Hes my best friend, even with his nasty testicals.

  • opinionatedB posted at 9:43 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    opinionatedB Posts: 76

    I dont believe it!!! The humane society saying that they will help anyone, and really care about animals. How about spaying and neutering dogs too! I have a stray dog, which I love very much, but can not afford to get him fixed. I have tried to get help. To hear that if he were a cat he would be helped really makes me mad. Sounds to me like they cater to the cats, and don't care about the dogs. Glad I never told them hes half black and brown!!!

  • DeNiles posted at 9:11 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    DeNiles Posts: 2450

    Go to a Vet for any procedure and you'll walk away feeling like you personally put their kids through college.

  • Old Hayden posted at 8:42 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    Old Hayden Posts: 32

    When I took a cat that was dropped into my yard to a vet for euthanasia, he told me to take it "out in the country and release it." (I told him that's how the cat got into my yard in the first place.) The idea that it's more responsible to drop cats off than to have them euthanized is ridiculous. Animals deserve a safe home and LOVE. They shouldn't live in shelters or be dropped off as coyote food. I refuse to support the Humane Society as long as they have a "No Kill" policy and won't take strays/ferals which causes people to drop these cats off in my neighborhood near the shelter.

  • Betrayer of Hope posted at 8:30 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    Betrayer of Hope Posts: 113

    Bring the wolves in closer. Release them IN town. They will help "balance the ecosystem."

  • Why Not posted at 8:01 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    Why Not Posts: 4405

    Lets do the same for the deer in Hayden and Dalton while we are at it, cat skin cap anyone?

    Okay, okay...mean uncaring pig, yeah so?

  • voxpop posted at 4:05 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    voxpop Posts: 738

    "Doria said people can help locally by trapping cats, paying to have them fixed, then releasing them."

    Uh ... yeah, not a chance. Why doesn't the city use the tried and true bounty method. $5/cat head. The problem would be fixed in short order. There's a good reason why 'cats' and 'rats' rhyme.

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